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Austinitis Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:59 PM
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Hillary Highlights Problems With Caucus States
She makes some http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/05/clinton_makes_her_case_on_elec.html">pretty good points. I only wish she had started pointing this stuff out a few weeks ago.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:00 PM
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1. I wish she had brought this up before the primaries so it could have been fixed.
Now it doesn't matter.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:01 PM
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2. I only wish she had started pointing this stuff out before the caucuses took place
and she lost a lot of them.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:01 PM
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3. She was for caucuses before she was against them
"I want to thank all of my supporters and everyone I have met in Iowa over the past 11 months. I am in awe of your commitment to the WONDERFUL TRADITION OF THE CAUCUSES. Now they are here, and I hope that on January 3, you will stand up and be counted for me."
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:06 PM
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8. There is that!
:rofl:
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:02 PM
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4. She should have brought this up before agreeing to rules.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:02 PM
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5. I only wish she had started pointing this stuff out a few years ago.
Otherwise it's pure political opportunism.

NGU.


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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:03 PM
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6. Hillary: "... Wonderful tradition of the caucuses."
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:03 PM
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7. There may be problems with them, but they ARE legal.
I don't like what she's doing here, as if those of us who live in caucus states are somehow not doing it right or something.

And the time for her to have raised these concerns was long before any voting took place.

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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:07 PM
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9. Problem #1: she has trouble winning
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:07 PM
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10. The Clintons loved the caucus states when they helped Bill win.
And if Hillary had done well, she'd be extolling their virtues.

I am so tired of her whining.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:07 PM
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11. Hillary says: "Caucusing is Easy!"
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floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:09 PM
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12. It apears to me that
The Obama camp outsmarted those high dollar managers she had running her campaign (especially the one she had to fire)
They (The Obama group) found a way to get a large number of delegates that campaigns do not usually focus on and used it to win.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:13 PM
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15. Um hes still working there, they just talk about it anymore
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:09 PM
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13. spam spam spam
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:12 PM
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14. A few weeks ago? How about a few years ago?
Even a few weeks ago would be the same as it is now -- special pleading from a defeated campaign.

What's important is addressing the rules BEFORE the campaign starts.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:25 PM
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16. Caucus states highlight problems with Hillary ...
almost every time one holds a caucus. ;-)
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:26 PM
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17. Perhaps she could have pointed this out last Fall...
You know.. before she LOST THEM. I have a feeling if she won those states back in February, she would have no problem with them. That's her issue.. she always cries after she loses - but never before.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:43 PM
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18. FLIP FLOP...Hillary Clinton was FOR CAUCUS
before she lost most of them and now is against them. Caucus states don't count!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:56 PM
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19. I'm sorry, but what she's saying doesn't make a damn bit of sense.
Nobody has any electoral votes. None. Zero. This idea that primaries are somehow useful as a predictor of general election results for individual states is complete nonsense. Hell, she even basically says it's nonsense herself, in the course of her remarks, but keeps hammering the point anyway.

Then there's her remarks on the caucuses. The caucuses are low turnout. OK, so... what, exactly?

There's really no convincing argument here. Quite frankly, she isn't even trying any more. She clearly knows that it's over.
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