It is absolutely sickening to read that Obama strategeryists

[cboy4]

are reaching out to the people they hate on the side of the candidate they hate.

Yea, I know it's politics to use people to get what you want.

But it's so difficult to stomach -- just like it is the tone here in General Discussion: Primaries where there is nothing but Democrat bashing directed toward anyone who hasn't pledged their blind allegiance to Obama.

Just read the titles of these threads.

"Clinton supporters are now actively embracing Karl Rove"

:thumbsdown:


NEW YORK - A top strategist for Barack Obama has reached out to Hillary Rodham Clinton's former campaign manager about joining forces for the general election, the latest sign of political reconciliation between the two rivals as Obama begins consolidating his position as the likely Democratic nominee.

Obama strategist David Axelrod and former Clinton aide Patti Solis Doyle confirmed they had had informal conversations about how she might help the Illinois senator if he secures the presidential nomination as expected. The conversations were first reported on the Politico Web site

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080519/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_obama_1

[MannyGoldstein]

1. Bill Clinton Said That Karl Rove Was Brilliant, And A Friend

Nice.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

11. and so did Donna Brazile...hell she works for him

[Alexander]

24. I must have missed where Brazile's spouse was running for president.

[Honeycombe8]

37. Brazile doesn't work for Rove. ????? nt

[emilyg]

13. So?

[MannyGoldstein]

18. Uh...

Nevermind.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. I'm sorry, I don't understand what the problem is.

"Clinton supporters are now actively embracing Karl Rove"

Well...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6033418#6033421

[cboy4]

4. No, you wouldn't understand what the problem is.

lol

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

Why don't you explain it to me.

:shrug:

Because it seems to me you cry when Obama people play nice, and cry when they play mean...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6015771

So then why don't you just make up your mind.

[cboy4]

35. Well it's fake niceness. I wouldn't be "crying" if it were

genuine niceness.

And thank you for publicizing my work. lol!

[Honeycombe8]

38. When you are in a better frame of mind...please come back and read your initial post....

as well as some of your responses.

They are pretty hostile, even to neutral questions.

It seems to me that the hostility is coming from your end. Look at your post in the calm, coolness of the aftershock of Hillary's final end to her campaign, and see if you agree that you had lost your objectivity.

[cboy4]

44. So does that mean you have nothing to say about the

hostile comments of the Obama people -- folks, I should add, who are winning.

Angry winners.

Oxymoron!!!

[Honeycombe8]

57. As I said, you are not being objective. I see no "hostile comments" that are not

responding to something specifically done by the opponent of Obama.

I DO see a number of posts like yours...being "sickened" by opponent supporters, seeing "hatred" everywhere, but not responding to anything that the Obama campaign has done or said.

[TheWraith]

6. Well, first Obama supporters were supposed to be nice to the Clinton campaign.

Now that the Obama campaign is reaching out to offer an olive branch, it becomes disgusting that they haven't quit and given all their delegates to the Clinton campaign.

And none of the people pushing that idea will ever notice the fact that they've engaged in more Democrat-bashing than everyone else put together.

[tekisui]

3. I don't think Obama strategists hate Clinton.

Nothing has given me that impression. You can't base your opinion of a person or their strategists by their supporters on an anonymous internet forum.

[zulchzulu]

5. David Axelrod and Patti Solis Doyle are old friends...sometimes friends join up after battles

It's called...life.

[renie408]

7. Really? "Absolutely sickening"?? That seems a little strong to me.

And it seems to me that there is a fair amount of Obama bashing. Actually, this place seems to be pretty much into equal opportunity bashing. Which belies all the mudslinging about racism and sexism.

[bowens43]

8. Why would you think that Obama strategists hates her?

[union_maid]

9. What makes you think that they hate her

You really don't think what goes on here or on some blogs represents the thinking process of political professionals, do you? They don't even hate a lot of Republicans. Just a select few.

[AllentownJake]

10. If you read the article on politico

You would have read the two of them were friends before this campaign started and have talked friendly throughout.

EPIC FAIL

[housewolf]

12. I think there's some logic missing here...

You seem to assume that because Obama supporters "hate" Hillary & Hillary's supporters, that the campaign strategists feel the same way

I don't think that they do... I think it's all non-personal to them, because that's the way politics works. You campaign and vote against each other and at the end of the fight, you all get together for the higher good - the good of the party and of the country.

[AllentownJake]

15. He also misses out

that Axelrod and Doyle are friends going back to before there was a Hillary Clinton or a Barack Obama.

[renie408]

20. Also, it is easy to get fluffy on the internet. I am willing to bet that were this a face to face...

forum, the hyperbole and vitriol would be a great deal less. I know supporters of both candidates that are perfectly civil and friendly with each other. To be honest, I had no idea that the whole 'Hillary is ripping the party apart' thing had a grain of truth to it til I dropped in here today.

[cboy4]

45. Alright, maybe I put too much emphasis on the behavior of

the strategists, who yea, probably do hate Hillary and her supporters much less than Obama fans.

[bicentennial_baby]

14. Can you unequivocally prove that Obama and his team *hate* her?

No, I didn't think so.

[americanstranger]

16. Patti Solis Doyle = Democrat.

Karl Rove = Satan's Fecal Matter.

There is a difference between the two. Even you should be able to see that.

- as

[dailykoff]

22. Clinton supporters are, er, you know...

"not so fast."

[cboy4]

42. Terrible comment

:thumbsdown:

[cali]

17. You're letting YOUR hate carry you away.

There's no indication whatsover that Axelrod hate Solis Doyle. Or tha anyone else in the Obama campaign hates Hillary supporters.

Get a grip. You lose it more each day.

[ruggerson]

27. It's a beautiful spring in New England

have you taken a long walk today and taken in the fresh air? I know it's kind of cloudy and chilly today, but a brisk walk is always good for you.

[cali]

29. Sorry, it;s pouring and 45 and it was like that all day.

I did put on my Wellingtons though and weeded a flower garden during a break. It's always nice to do it when the earth's lovely and soft from the rain.

[ruggerson]

33. Nothing like walking in the rain

especially intermittent drizzle. Give me a wet dog by my side and a deserted country road outside Middlebury and I'm a happy camper.

[madrchsod]

39. wellingtons?-->

[cboy4]

31. No, she not once ever leaves the computer ,, I went to lunch

with friends, have been in the water and washed my car here on my "Saturday" -- I'm getting ready to watch the Hornets-Spurs game 7.

Cali, on the other hand, will continue monitoring the internets and continue accusing me of hate because my lips aren't pressed tightly against the ass of Obama like hers.

[Bensthename]

19. Clinton supporters are now actively embracing Karl Rove.. Well, they are,,

[Johnny__Motown]

21. What makes you think they hate the people working for Hillary? I see no evidence of that

[cboy4]

43. Oh please. They're furious she hasn't been forced to

drop out.

[Johnny__Motown]

58. How does that translate to the people working for her? You are stretching

[Starbucks Anarchist]

23. Axelrod and Doyle have been friends for 20 years.

[dailykoff]

Making nice to Patti does NOT equal sucking Karl's big

brain, sorry.

[Hippo_Tron]

25. Provide some evidence that Obama's strategists HATE Hillary Clinton and her team

Hate is an extremely strong word. If you're going to use it, you'd better be able to back it up.

[madrchsod]

26. same city..good friends

did Patti Solis Doyle get screwed over by penn during the iowa disaster?

[madmom]

28. Maybe it's that unity thing ,ya think?

[Adelante]

30. It's politics

:shrug:

[madrchsod]

32. bill clinton wanted david axlerod to run his 1992 campaign

although he wanted to david decided to stay in chicago. hillary had him make commercials during her senate bid...

you see when this is over they will still be friends.

[cboy4]

34. *************Why can't anyone address why there's so

much Democrat-bashing going on?********

If you don't love Obama, you risk being viciously attacked and accused of not being a real Democrat and threatened that you will be banned from DU.

[anigbrowl]

40. An empty strawman argument - nothing but flame bait.

Spare me the victimology. As for your complaints about people embracing Karl Rove, there are several threads here today where he is suddenly being praised as an expert. Here's Hillary Clinton citing his 'analysis', with video, to justify why she's the stronger candidate:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Clinton_Karl_Rove_analysis_supports_me_0519.html

[cboy4]

41. Empty strawman argument, as opposed to a valid

strawman argument, or something? lol

No, if you look around, you will see that people who don't support Obama are targets of verbal abuse.

Come on

[Texasgal]

47. Ohhh...geez..

What a pant-load!

The only thing I seem to see here is your constant haranguing about how "hateful" Obama supporters are...Give me a break! If you are so disillusioned here and everyone is so damn "hateful" why do you stay?

Jeez louize... it's like a broken record!

[cboy4]

51. "Why do you stay?" LOL!!! -- That's what I'm talking about

Texasgal.

What's wrong with you?

[Texasgal]

54. What's wrong with me?

Nothing bub.. nothing.

I have no hate for Hillary, never have, never will... search my posts, you'll see.

It just seems like every time I get on there is so post of yours whining about how "hateful" everyone is.. Take a break... get a drink... Do something but whine... It's old.

[walldude]

49. I could address it but it wouldn't matter. Unless an Obama

supporter bows down and claims "it's all true, Obama is playing dirty, Obama is losing, Obama is using right wing tactics, Obama is a liar" then Hillary supporters will consider them "playing fair".

The only people being viciously attacked here (with the minor exception of trolls) are the ones who refuse to vote for the Democratic candidate, whoever it is. Are you in that group? Will you vote for Obama if he wins? If you won't then yes you deserve to be attacked for not being a democrat.

Other than that you really need to stop with the strawman argument, and generalizations.

[cboy4]

53. How many times do I need to say that I plan on voting for

the Democratic Nominee?

Huh Walldude? Every two minutes do I need to profess my allegiance?

And no, the only people being viciously attacked here are absolutely not just the ones who refuse to vote for the Democratic candidate.

That is completely false.

[PM7nj]

36. I'm sure you would be complaining if they didn't do this.

Some people always find something to complain about.

[Perry Logan]

46. It's called hypocrisy, my friend. Welcome to the world of politics.

[BlooInBloo]

48. You forgot one: Clinton supporters are actively bribing young superdelegates.

[McCamy Taylor]

50. Political neophytes may see it this way, I guess. The GOP may see it this way.

The MSM loves the infighting.

Democrats know that Solidarity makes us strong.

[gabby garcia]

52. negative rec..

if only that was possible.

[graycem]

55. It's politics..

David Axelrod worked on Hillary's senate campaign. Geeze.

[Lord Helmet]

56. she kisses Scaife, Fox News, and Rove butt and deserves to be villified