Olberman: At what point does a person who endorses fox news and Karl Rove cease being a democrat?

[Joe the Revelator]

My thoughts exactly.

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Ouch

That's gonna leave a mark.

[Hieronymus]

4. Keith, asking the hard questions. God bless him.

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[dailykoff]

9. Sad but oh so true.

That ship has SAILED.

[BlooInBloo]

12. Because she's a lying, bribing, race-baiting warmonger? Or some other reason?

[K Gardner]

15. I was thinking along more concrete lines, like "John McCain is fit, Obama has a speech."

[BlooInBloo]

18. Ohhh - I gotcha. My bad.

[DevonRex]

25. Yep. Long, long ago. nt

[joeybee12]

3. At what point does KO come back to reality...

...and not simply spew forth crap being echoed by other nutjobs out there.

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. Nutjobs like Karl Rove? He spews crap

and you endorse that?

[anonymous171]

7. Didn't she scold Obama for using tactics "right out of Karl Rove's playbook" ?

And now she's quoting Karl Rove.

[K Gardner]

16. By Jove, she did ! Good catch. She's been so over the top, I can't keep up with the crazy

crap she and Bill say.

[Cha]

38. There's just no Hypocricy like hilary Hypocricy

and I can't wait for when her Hypocritical Petard Hoists 'er.

[cui bono]

79. Hillpocrisy.

It's not pretty.

[Zachstar]

66. BINGO!!

[LisaM]

11. Exactly right.

If KO thinks Hillary is a Republican, and really thinks that she's sooooooo different from Barack Obama ideologically, he is not doing real critical analysis.

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. You did hear her use Rove's math today, didn't you?

just asking...

[VotesForWomen]

58. he'll come crawling back after O loses the GE; just in time to blame it all on the clintons.

[Divernan]

83. "He'll come crawling back" - the fantasy of every abandoned woman still in the denial phase

Nobody will ever come crawling back to Hillary. It is interesting, however, to read your psychological fantasy.

[anigbrowl]

5. 'You don't get it, Keith! HE endorsed ME!'

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Clinton_Karl_Rove_analysis_supports_me_0519.html if you have strong stomach...

[DevonRex]

8. Hey, that was MY question! nt

[bicentennial_baby]

10. She's off the rails...it's official

And, sad, I guess. Mostly, insane.

[berni_mccoy]

13. I Bet Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame are having a MAJOR WTF MOMENT.

[Ichingcarpenter]

14. Karl Rove outed or slammed Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame.. but its OK

Hillary does no wrong. I wonder how Democratic Governor Siegelman feels about it.

[donheld]

61. "Karl Rove outed or slammed Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame"

Joe and Valerie are backing Hillary, but Hillary is quoting Rove. What a bizarre world this is.

[K Gardner]

17. Another good catch of ultimate Irony !

[Cha]

19. Which begs two more questions..

Just how Desperate is hilary clinton and Why is she so Desperate?

Okay, the questions just keep adding up.

Who's holding the curtain shut and how deep does it go?

[greenbriar]

20. booya

good point

[Ichingcarpenter]

21. Rachel got the highest news rating out of all of cable news all day friday

subbing for Keith

[totodeinhere]

34. She got the best ratings in the 25-54 Demographic. But O'Reilly beat her...

in total listeners.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_friday_may_16_85159.asp#more

[Vote2008]

22. Hillary is out of control. The SDs need to end this while they can salvage something.

[Norwood]

23. In her mind its not about party at all, its only about her.

She will do absolutely anything to become president. She doesn't care who she has to destroy or how.

[Skip Intro]

24. At what point does a tv anchor who touts one candidate over another cease being a journalist?

[anonymous171]

26. It's not his fault she lies

[Bensthename]

27. lol, exactly..

[Skip Intro]

28. He's been a shill for Obama for months now. What we have with KO and the blogosphere

most of it, anyway, and Obama is the Democratic version of bush and fox news.

[JMDEM]

39. Isn't it odd how many people hate Hillary?

Ever ask yourself why?

No, of course not.

[Skip Intro]

44. The party is split down the middle, if that's what you are talking about.

There is much unease with Obama from a large portion of Hillary supporters. I wouldn't call it hate, but many of her supporters, voters, are vocally saying they will not support Obama as the nominee. So it seems like there is a lot of animosity on both sides.

If you are talking about KO and MoveOn and Kos, et al, well, we had a media shove another one-letter campaign down our throats eight years ago. A lot of us remember that.

As for that four letter word hate, all I can say is anyone feeling hatered toward Hillary has their own problems.

[TahitiNut]

67. She sliced it in half. Obama got to pick which half he wanted. He got the bigger one.

Tough shit. :nopity:

[earthlover]

50. Isn't it odd that so many people hate liars? No it's not!

Hillary's lies about being fired upon....

She brought it upon herself.

Confirmed doubts of many. Raised doubts among many more.

[chemenger]

73. You must have your head buried in the sand

to be asking why so many people hate HiLIARy. There have been more posts here over the past few weeks from people explaining why they hate HiLIARy than could possibly be counted.

Here are three good reasons why I hate HiLIARy: She is a LIAR! She is a HYPOCRITE! She believes she is ENTITLED to the nomination.

[goletian]

48. he used to support hillary, till she stopped supporting her party.

[Zachstar]

65. Yes we expose her bullcrap and suddenly we are like Fox News

Man I can't wait for DU to go into presumptive nominee mode.

[walldude]

33. Apparently never...

I don't see a single Hillary supporter complaining about the right wing anchors who have supported her...

[TahitiNut]

68. Yup. Not a one. Funny 'bout that, isn't it?

:rofl:

Fifty-five minutes of trivia smears by George Stephanopoulus, with Hillary getting "equal time" to throw some shit herself, and nothing but applause from the Shrillbots.

[totodeinhere]

35. He doesn't presume to be a journalist. He's a commentator and he has the right...

to give whatever opinions he wants to.

[csorman]

51. The day a Dem candidate uses a warmongering rethug's opinion as justification to stay in the race.

That's when.

[Divernan]

85. Some journalists are reporters (no personal opinions allowed) & others are columnists

Keith Olberman's show is like the editorial page of a paper - opinions are the rule.

[sniffa]

29. Or when do DUers who do that cease being DUers?

Pretty soon.

[Cha]

40. Pertinent question to our

immediate surroundings.

[sniffa]

43. Seriously

I'm all about reaching out to actual Dems.... the mentally ill people who are still allowed to post here can fuck off an die just like Bev Harris. That's exactly what kind of people they are. They're free to be a douchebag like that, and they'll be pounced on as they should be.

Seriously, you're not welcome, and you deserve the scorn you get.

So, yeah, fuck you. You can cry and go vote/work for McCain.

[Cha]

47. They're all on Ignore for me or

I would spend my time telling them to fuck off and accrue enough deleted threads so I would then be joining the pizza crowd. Such restraint The Ignored has given me.

This too shall pass.

[dempartisan23]

30. i think she wants power

no matter how many of us she has to step on to get it.

[anonymous171]

32. That's always been my problem with her.

All politicians seek power. But with the Clintons it's just sooo obvious.

[Kahuna]

31. It's time for an intervention. Sad that bill would let her go on like this.

He should be ashamed.

[gabby garcia]

36. i believe bill is enabling her.

seriously.

[Divernan]

84. It is widely said of Bill that he hates to lose, and of HRC that Bill is the only one

to whom she really listens.

[rucky]

41. Maybe that person's bringing them all to our side?

:rofl:

[msongs]

42. well good thing Obama NEVER went on fox news, he's no gestapo is he? nt

[DemGa]

45. Olbermann is a sick man

Got a real bad case of Hillary hate fever - the acute phase of Clinton Derangement Syndrome. This is an especially virulent strain.

Word is he contracted it at "Daily Kos." Careful out there.

[chascarrillo]

46. Hi there! Could you get Richard Mellon Scaife's autograph for me? KTHXBAI.

[invictus]

49. K & R

[oasis]

52. At what point did Olbermann cease to be an objective journalist ?

[anonymous171]

53. He's a commentator.

[Elidor]

54. Rove's "math" had the GOP winning the 2006 elections, too

Any day now, pigs will fly out of his ass.

[Connonym]

55. Hmm does that mean that Rove reproduces anally?

Excuse me, I'm just laughing over the thought of pigs flying out of a pig's ass

[samsingh]

56. right when they do this.

who's he talking about?

[VotesForWomen]

57. Mr. Olberman ceased to be objective or credible a long time ago. the man is a joke.

[ccharles000]

59. ....

I don't think he is a joke but I believe he has been very biased against Hillary.

[Zachstar]

63. One of the most effective anti PR assests we have and yall continue to crap on him.

People like you make me sick.

[emilyg]

64. Thank you.

[Lerkfish]

74. ...

[ruby slippers]

60. remember, she was a Republican first.....

[Zachstar]

62. Amen!!!

[hokies4ever]

69. Preach it KO!

How can Hillary praise Karl Rove when the Dems in Congress are about to throw him in jail if he doesn't testify?

[AzDar]

70. Pretty goddamned shocking, ain't it?

:wow:

[Zachstar]

75. Indeed

[FourStarDemocrat]

71. This is one of the pluses of a drawn out campaign...

You truly get to see a fuller picture of the integrity or lack thereof of all of the candidates. Months ago, I would have never known that Hillary would fall this low to attempt to gain power by using Rove and the Republican playbook. And playing the sexism card over and over again, on top of other episodes of alarming conduct. For me, it's almost a good thing now that I'm seeing her for what she is so that I'll never make the mistake again of voting for her (she's my Senator) in any capacity.

[rodeodance]

72. At what Point does Obama Refuse to go on Fox news when he is in trouble??

[LeFleur1]

76. Wondering

Are the Obama supporters incapable of unbiased listening? OR are they just dishonest?

Hillary said that a curious thing had happened. Karl Rove's math says she can win. She laughed.

That's what she said.

Olberman in his zeal to set Obama up (or campaign for him, who knows?) then interpreted her remark as Hillary's support of Karl Rove. How he came to that conclusion is beyond me...unless...he saw great value in using it to smear Hillary once again.
I had great hopes for Olberman, but he has become just another hack on the tube, good at twisting and interpreting things the way he wants the dumb and dumber to view them.

We've had a President who excluded all members of an opposing party. He is really just President of the Republican Party. He was never able to grow into the job. I would hope that a Democratic President, if elected could rise above party politics and become a President for all of the People.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

77. No "Clinton Watch" needed for Hillary.

:think:

[Teaser]

81. what

.

[McCamy Taylor]

78. Clinton was sarcastic about Rove. Obama was also on Fox. KO is Hillary obsessed.

Maybe KO has Al Gore disease and thinks that Hillary Clinton is not good enough for Bill Clinton. Everybody in the world wants some of Bill Clinton.

[Orsino]

80. When does the Democratic Party get serious about dismantling corporate media?

Our Democratic leaders love Fox, almost as much as they love other corporations.

[BlueStater]

82. Obamamann is such an ass

Of course, the supporters of Mr. "Hope" would turn against him in a heartbeat the second he stops sucking him off.

[Divernan]

86. No, that was what Bill did to Monica: "I never had sex with that woman."

You talk about someone turning against someone "in a heartbeat". When Clinton was caught in his oval office fling with his intern, he could have admitted it, expressed his regret, taken responsibility as the far more mature person and the one with ALL the power in that interaction, and dealt with the fall out - but instead he tried to lie his way out of it - which meant that under oath he denied what Monica Lewinsky had admitted to, thereby branding her a liar.

[BlueStater]

88. Wow.

My original post might not have been the height of maturity but at least I didn't stoop to using that sort of right-wing trash.

Free Republic is that way, pal.

[Divernan]

89. I quoted WJC directly. Your crude language was all your own.

Don't dish it out if you can't take it. By the way, if you're interested, I was clearing out a closet today and came across some unopened bottles I saved from the Clinton Inaugural (I was his supporter and a guest, then.) I have one bottle of Germain-Robin, "Alambic Brandy, Small Barrel PV25, Clinton Inaugural 1993, Bottle No. 35 (40% alcohol); and 2 bottles of California champagne, with labels reading "Special Inaugural Cuvee" and "Inauguration of Preseident and Vice President 1993". I was going to hand them down in the family - but now I think they'll go for pennies on E-Bay.

I'm a Democrat going back to my first election of JFK - straight through. (I have a picture of one of my uncles in the Oval Office with JFK - they were both PT boat commanders.) The Clintons have let this party down, and they've let this country down. Oh, and speaking as an over 65, professional woman (lawyer) and someone who used to teach Women's Studies back in the 70's, it is my well considered opinion that Hillary has in particular let the feminist movement down.

[BlueStater]

90. I make no apologies for what I said about Olbermann

He has become nothing but a pathetic shill for Obama. I have no problem with him criticizing Hillary but when he constantly points out her flaws while ignoring Obama's, he's no better than the Bush-loving pundits he mocks.

And I don't care how long you've been a Democrat. Making fun of Clinton for his affair is something Republicans do.

[Divernan]

91. Oh I find nothing remotely humorous about Clinton's self-indulgent, reckless behavior.

He squandered the opportunity to make something of his presidency and displayed a fatal lack of integrity and character.

Attacking Keith Olberman and Barack Obama is something Republicans (and you) do.

[Lady-Damai]

87. Seriously...fuck u....n/t