This is Karl Rove's idea of the GE on Obama v McCain, and my counter map included here.

[Hawkeye-X]

As you can see, Karl Rove is smoking crack as usual..



This is probably what will happen if Obama is the nominee, and chooses wisely on his VP selection..

If we take away AR, FL, NC and OH (being a little realistic here) Obama still wins



And you may post your thoughts here, using www.270towin.com

Hawkeye-X

[TheWraith]

1. I think we lose AR and maybe FL, but win OH and LA.

The citizens of Louisiana are, I suspect, going to remember who was eating cake with Bush while their people were drowning.

[LaStrega]

2. 'xactly what I was thinking ...

"... going to remember who was eating cake with Bush while their people were drowning."

Yup.

(k/r)

[bookman]

5. Not sure about LA

It would make sense, but...?

[SoCalDem]

3. I like WaPo's "toy" better... smaller, easier to read

mke your own @ http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/campaign08/electoral-college/



My maps..Obama/Napolitano Barr & Paul are IN the race




Obama..no Napolitano.. bare minimum for him..subtract 4 for NH, if you think Mccain wins NH


another possibility..notice the states MISSING :)


Hillary's map

[Bullet1987]

4. I think it's entirely too early to make GE predictions, which is why Rove's little map is irrelevant

But there will be a number of more toss-up states this General Election than there were in 2000 and 2004. I think it's funny how we haven't seen any GE polls from NC or SC...but we've seen numerous ones from certain states. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that NC goes blue in '08. And with SC and Georgia's Black populations...I think they could at least turn purple. I don't know, Obama could be very strong all up and down I-95 (the East Coast).

[woolldog]

6. I think your bottom map is reasonable

except I'd shade MO red, but Obama can win MO.

I love these threads, btw. Here's a conservative map (with Webb as VP)

[pansypoo53219]

7. rove's math was gold in

06.

[featherman]

8. I honestly have no idea why people seem to think we lose Ohio this year!

The Ohio GOP is in complete disarray, GOP Governor Taft had an approval rating of under 7% (that's not a typo) before he left office, Democrats now control the state government at all levels. Even with massive cheating by Ken Blackwell, Kerry lost Ohio by a fairly small percentage. And that was with the crappy Kerry campaign versus a sitting President whose approval rating was still above 50%.

Learn something about the political ground in Ohio before assuming a Dem loss. Not happening. Dems win OH, PA, MI this year. Dead certain lock.

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051129/NEWS09/511290414

[Hawkeye-X]

10. kicking for the morning crew

[anigbrowl]

9. Karl Rove's predictive model is very accurate