Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I Think Hillary Will Be the Veep and I Think The Deal Has Already Been Struck

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:40 AM
Original message
I Think Hillary Will Be the Veep and I Think The Deal Has Already Been Struck
Mark my words...

Hillary will suspend her campaign, possibly tonight.

An Obama/Clinton ticket will be announced, possibly tomorrow in Florida.

Stay tuned......
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:43 AM
Response to Original message
1. she has half the votes - he has the other half
and we have been sustaining record turnouts.

Why not . . . . looks like the ticket for a runaway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:43 AM
Response to Original message
2. I'm so sick of this campaign I could almost accept the notion. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:44 AM
Response to Reply #2
7. if it would shut her up and focus everyone on McCain and the WhiteHouse, I'd take it
not a fan of the idea, but we need to move on
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #7
15. Hell... If That's The Case, Why Not Just Put Ferraro On The Ticket, LOL !!!
Isn't it really HER turn?

:shrug:

:banghead::evilgrin::banghead:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:49 AM
Response to Reply #7
19. Maybe this is her strategy to get on the ticket.
Wear us down until we're ready to jump off a bridge if it doesn't end.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #2
52. That's what she wants people to think. She's pestering her way onto the ticket.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:43 AM
Response to Original message
3. Oh Great... I Thought The Days Of The Shotgun Marriage Were Over...
Edited on Tue May-20-08 07:56 AM by WillyT
:banghead:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:43 AM
Response to Original message
4. I truly hope you are very, very wrong.
The Clintons as VP is a disaster.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #4
12. It would be only one of them
and most democrats agree it's the right ticket.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:57 AM
Response to Reply #12
29. The more I've thought about it, the more I've concluded
Edited on Tue May-20-08 07:58 AM by IWantAnyDem
it's the smart poltical move for both Obama and the Democratic Party as a whole.

Just so long as Hillary Clinton would take the spot. Obama would have to guarantee her a lot more than just the constitutional role, though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
democraticinsurgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #12
38. you don't get one without the other
...or haven't you been paying attention?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sfaprog Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #12
40. Bullshit
Every poll I've seen at DU has a LARGE majority not wanting Clinton on the ticket. She's history.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:43 AM
Response to Original message
5. I don't have a problem with it although I am not enthused about the prospects.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AllexxisF1 Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:44 AM
Response to Original message
6. No way in hell he would ever pick her.
There is no way in hell they would ever be on the ticket. Period.


This Primary battle was not only about Barack against Hillary but also the Progressives vs. the DLC. Many in the Democratic Party have had it up to here with the DLC and there "be in the middle" mantra.

Progressives have won the day and there is no way in hell he would put her on the ticket.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:46 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. Precisely
if that madwoman is added to the ticket, the slogan immediately becomes "Fuck Change - Extortion You Can Believe In"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #6
11. Dean, Hillary, and Obama have been meeting
MArk my words, it's a done deal. That's why Michelle Obama had to be adament on television yesterday that there was no way possible she would have said anything against Hillary Clinton being the Veep.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:48 AM
Response to Reply #6
17. That's one of the sillier assertions you guys make
there's no measure by which Obama is more "progressive" than Clinton. They're virtually identical on policy.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:51 AM
Response to Reply #17
21. The differences between the two on policy are about a dime thick
And she is the PERFECT Veep candidate because she already has the repuation as an attack dog.

Plus, it makes her the heir apparent for 2016 when she'll be 68, which is an incredibly young age for women (who still outlive men).

It's perfect.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AllexxisF1 Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:09 AM
Response to Reply #21
43. Yes but...
Their policy differences maybe on the surface a dime thick but their are VERY REAL differences to who their backers are. Clinton is all about big money backers and corporations where Obama is centered on mass donations from voters.


Put it this way, if their was little to no difference between the two then why haven't Clinton's big money backers just simply slide on over to Obama's side, but are instead bribing Super delegates. If their policies are the same then why bother bribing super delagates for a lost cause.


They might be close on policy but they are immeasurably apart on how they see this world.










Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #21
60. Perception is more important than the differences between their stands on policies.
Hillary generates hate and anger in her campaign.

Obama generates hope and admiration in his campaign.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:45 AM
Response to Original message
8. Doubtful
She'd tone it down a bit more if that were true. That blogger conference call was over the top.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:46 AM
Response to Original message
9. Say hello to President McCain




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #9
14. She fits the Veep role to a tee
Attack dog.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:50 AM
Response to Reply #14
20. Rush's dream come true
if hillary is on the ticket
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:52 AM
Response to Reply #20
23. Landslide victory
After witnessing the turnouts for both candidates in state after state, the victory of this team would be so huge that it would guarantee a Democratic majority for a generation or more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:57 AM
Response to Reply #23
28. Obama supporters will stay away in droves

with Hillary on the ticket.

and her presence will mobilize the GOP vote like nothing else.

its a disaster waiting to happen.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:59 AM
Response to Reply #28
31. So, everybody that fought so hard to get Obama to the top of the ticket
would just sit at home after he gets the top of the ticket because of some perceived slight over clinton being on the ticket?

Grow up!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #31
39. His talk of changing Washington politics would prove empty
with that thing on as his VP.

People would rightfully stay home.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #31
48. Count me out. I won't vote for grandpa, just stay home.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:10 AM
Response to Reply #28
44. his support is that fragile?
that doesn't bode well for him whoever he picks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #28
55. I won't stay away, but,,,
Edited on Tue May-20-08 08:32 AM by EnviroBat
Hillary would be nothing more than a turd in the punchbowl. She's toxic to everything she touches. WE WANT HER TO GONE, LIKE A FART IN THE WIND.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:06 AM
Response to Reply #14
37. Hillary would get creamed by McSame on the Bosnia sniper lie
The ad comparing a POW to the sniper story lie would drag the ticket down. Hillary has no political future. You don't lie about being shot at and get away with it. Not ever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:50 AM
Response to Reply #14
61. If she was Hitler's veep.
Her racism is closer to being more like Eva Braun's than any living Democrat.

Other than Bubba, who himself is a racist pig.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:47 AM
Response to Original message
13. she's a liar; why would anyone accept her as their number two. she can't be trusted. eom.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:23 AM
Response to Reply #13
49. If only lying was her sole problem.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:48 AM
Response to Original message
16. If it shuts her goddamn yap...
That's fine with me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:48 AM
Response to Original message
18. Yes, and she's secretly been "vetting" him all along.
See, she's just trying to help!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:51 AM
Response to Original message
22. I completely disagree. Totally.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:53 AM
Response to Original message
24. They'll cut a deal but it won't make her veep.
They might help her pay off Mark Penn for example or give her and Bill a cable talk show somewhere.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
remember2000forever Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:56 AM
Response to Original message
25. So, She Ends Up Stamping Her Feet
And In The End, Getting Her Way. Priceless! Poor, Poor O.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:56 AM
Response to Original message
26. That goes against everything he's said from Day One. Plus, there's no way they can keep Bill from
embarassing Obama's administration for 8 years! He'll do or say something that'll bring out everyone's knives once again.

They are too tied to corporations and the old way of doing things to compliment an Obama presidency. I sincerely hope this doesn't happen. It'll be the downfall of the Democratic party.

rec'd
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:57 AM
Response to Original message
27. and I think that hell has frozen over
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:57 AM
Response to Original message
30. People are forgetting that Hillary really hasn't been vetted during this primary.
Edited on Tue May-20-08 07:59 AM by Connie_Corleone
Obama has not thrown the kitchen sink at Hillary. If she's his VP, the republicans will focus more on Hillary than Obama. Every single "new" scandal that has been brewing since the Clintons left the White House will be brought up.

It will be the Bill and Hillary roadshow from now until the election.

We're trying to get away from that nonsense. What was the point of this whole primary season if we're just going to end up with the same triangulating Clintons taking over everything?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:00 AM
Response to Original message
32. If you're right, McCain will be president.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:01 AM
Response to Original message
33. Wrong. She will not stop til first week of June. She will not be VP. It is impossible.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:02 AM
Response to Original message
34. God, I hope not!
:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:05 AM
Response to Original message
35. I've been wondering about this ever since Edwards endorsed Obama,
with both of them praising Clinton.

We'll see...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:09 AM
Response to Reply #35
42. Edwards got boos when he praised Hillary.
I doubt that's a response anyone would like to repeat.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #42
54. Rightfully so.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:05 AM
Response to Original message
36. UGH! no effing way would Obama put that backstabbing, lying, fake "democrat" on his ticket
it would make him look like a weakling who is juat a Clinton placater, with no mind or will of his own. And AS IF he's going to let Bill upstage him! This is Obama's, not HillBillary's -- they just don't go together AT ALL.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sfaprog Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:09 AM
Response to Original message
41. Mark my words... It won't happen. She's history, and has no chips left to bargain with.
There is nothing she can offer. If her support in the GE is conditional, she's not a real Democrat.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:13 AM
Response to Original message
45. No way. Clinton is against the very core of Obama's campaign
Not gunna happen, even if the media is orgasming over the idea. (Though I was wrong about Edwards getting the VP slot, too.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:15 AM
Response to Original message
46. "Mark my words..."
The sure sign of wild conjecture.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:33 AM
Response to Reply #46
56. Of course it's conjecture
So there you are.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:15 AM
Response to Original message
47. That would be awful.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:24 AM
Response to Original message
50. I really hope not. The woman is poison. Pure poison.

I don't think Obama will give it to her.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:24 AM
Response to Original message
51. No.
And then we lose.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:29 AM
Response to Original message
53. no chance in hell
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:42 AM
Response to Original message
57. I'll stay tuned because I don't think it will happen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:46 AM
Response to Original message
58. Hillary won't even be in Obama's cabinet.
Because there is no such position as Secretary of Bitch.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AZSlacker Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:48 AM
Response to Original message
59. If this happens, I'll eat my right shoe
People are taking them both being in Florida as a conciliatory gesture, however I haven't read anywhere that they intend to appear together. I interpret Clinton going to Florida as well as an adversarial gesture, in attempt to remain relevant and in the news cycle. I think that Hillary truly believes (wrongly in my opinion) that Obama can't win the GE, and as such I don't think she is going to drop out or join a ticket with him, until she is voted out at the convention.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:52 AM
Response to Original message
62. That would be nice....
For HOPE and UNITY and all that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:57 AM
Response to Original message
63. I agree with you..
I think many people may not like it, but they'll get over it once we're all on the same team and Hillary and Bill are even more ferocious in their attacks on McCain. I'm ready for it. :party:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 05:55 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC