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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:16 AM
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Poll question: Do you want Hillary to withdraw from the race now? Today?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:17 AM
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1. I don't care what she does. I wish she'd stay off my tv, though....
Oh, wait, she's already doing that....mostly.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:21 AM
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5. No, she isn't. KO shows her more than Obama. I noticed last night.
He is supposed to be a big Obama supporter, and yet he spends the first fifteen minutes telling the nation every tiny detail of how Clinton spent her day. If she farted, KO has it. He is friggin' Hillary obsessed. If he spent as much time talking about how great Obama is, it would be much more useful.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:45 AM
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10. No, the number one Clinton supporter on MSHRC is Dan Abrams...
Edited on Tue May-20-08 11:45 AM by truebrit71
..he has the hots for her in the worst way....don't know if he's being deliberately obtuse pushing the math, or he just wants to pump up the ratings...either way it's bloody annoying...
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:30 PM
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27. Face the truth.
KO is NOT covering anybody's farts. Not even Chris Matthews is covering farts. They are covering political news, which is, admittedly, very similar, though.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:19 AM
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2. I want the US to get out of Iraq and restore the Constitution and fix the mortgage crisis today.
I don't know about the rest of you people.

:hide:
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:20 AM
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3. I'm glad to hear you support our nominee, Barack Obama!
Since those align perfectly with his goals, thank you for your support.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:24 AM
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6. I like Obama. See my post above. The press ignores him and talks about Clinton.
They are Clinton obsessed----in a bad way. Over at MSNBC they will talk about Clinton endlessly, gleefully for ten or fifteen minutes at a time analyzing one little thing she has said as an aside as if this is some major policy statement----


And you will not hear a word about some major policy statement that Obama has made.

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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:20 AM
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4. More than anything, I want her to stop lying
Especially about this "popular vote" bullshit.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:28 AM
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7. wont' happen as long as she's campaigning
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:31 AM
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8. It isn't that she is running it is how she is running. I like the McGovern plan.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:40 AM
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9. a lot more views than votes
are there oh, I dunno, five people who keep looking at this poll? Or more than a hundred who don't want to vote?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:47 AM
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11. Other.
I'm not concerned if she does today, or at the end of the first week in June. It is evident that Barack Obama is our party's nominee, and our focus needs to shift to the general election.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:48 AM
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12. Who is Hillary?
Is she that former presidential candidate? Bless her heart.

Remember how competitive of a race it was?
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:31 PM
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19. She is the political equivalent of Night of the Living Dead
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 02:01 PM
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37. LOL!

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:54 AM
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13. With a detailed apology and denouncement of the sexism attacks on Obama nt
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:56 AM
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14. Not now- why bother- but the minute Obama gets the majority
of delegate votes. We Dems need to start on McCain sooner rather than later.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:01 PM
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16. my assumption is that he will have the votes tonight
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:57 AM
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15. She's shows no inclination to stop digging herself into has-been irrelevance.
Much like Ferarro.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:06 PM
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17. Hillary keeps blowing opportunities to stop her relevancy nosedive
Edited on Tue May-20-08 12:06 PM by bushmeat
She would have been a TERRIBLE stock trader
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:11 PM
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18. writers who have long observed/written about U.S. politics
said that one of her options would be to destroy herself politically. they, however, were too optimistic because the thought, generally, was that Hillary was too much of a political survivor to choose to destroy her political career with the kind of bullshit that she and her surrogates, esp. Bill and Ferraro, are engaging in now.

I guess it's wrong to underestimate how low the Clintons are willing to go.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:33 PM
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20. Yes. If she cared about anyone other than herself, she would have bowed out long ago. n/t.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:00 PM
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23. ain't that the truth
at this point, honestly, I detest her. I woke up this morning thinking... god, please, not another day of bullshit from Hillary and her supporters, please.

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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:35 PM
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21. wonder how many sock puppets voted?
tropics dude had 3 other accts here. now tombstoned. I wonder who the other accts were? I'll have to check my ignore list to see if any of them are gone.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:42 PM
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22. 15, so far. n/t.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:26 PM
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24. No.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:27 PM
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25. I know this has been long and hard for you
I hope we will all end up on the same side eventually.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:39 PM
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28. It has been long and hard.
I've enjoyed it for the most part - the last time I was this excited was JFK.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:28 PM
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26. No.
Tomorrow will be just fine.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:42 PM
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29. YES!!! Absolutely!!! Her latest cries of "sexism" show she is a horrible person
that can't be trusted to run a clean and honorable campaign.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:43 PM
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30. No...this is a Democracy. Let's have the convention be worth something
and I say this as a non-Clinton, non-Obama supporting Dem
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:52 PM
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33. Convention fights = lost general election
in every democratic run in the recent past.

Conventions serve a purpose other than having two candidates slug it out. They serve to inspire and unify and to charge supporters to work to elect the candidate. They introduce the candidate and vp as the representatives for the entire party. They provide huge amts of television coverage for a candidate in which the other side does not get to frame the candidate for an audience.

So, to me, conventions have many purposes beyond a slug fest.

Beyond that, at this point there is no way Hillary can win the nomination. She would have to steal it via overturning both the popular and delegate votes. Her claims about the popular vote do not hold up to real numbers (which RealPolitics.com has up on their site.)

At this point, she is only acting as a spoiler.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:57 PM
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36. Sorry.
It's why I'm done with supporting National elections and working instead on local grassroots Dem efforts. This "presumptive nominee" stuff is bullshit. Strictly my opinion. Thank you.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 02:23 PM
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39. Everyone has to make her/his own decisions
where I am, republicans or conservative dems win national elections most of the time while greens win in the county where I live. this year might be an exception. I hope so.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:44 PM
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31. As long as she keeps her wicked mouth shut...
I don't care if she stays or goes. She should quit in June, though.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:44 PM
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32. No point to it now... only two weeks to go. Play it out
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:53 PM
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34. It makes no difference
The focus has shifted to McCain, as it should be, and as it should have been for many weeks now.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:54 PM
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35. Whether it's today or next month, she can quit when she wants....
It doesn't change the math.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 02:04 PM
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38. I want her to want to drop out now, but you can't always
get what you want. (Nobody saw that coming, right?)

She will do exactly what she wants to do: she has enough support and enough delegates to stay in right up to the convention. I want her to take a careful look at what's she's doing and make the choice, but I'm not holding my breath.
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 02:59 PM
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40. I'd be relieved if she dropped out tonight but will be more than ok if she doesn't.
My parents will be here from NY for my son's graduation in early June. We have a huge celebration planned if she concedes while they're here. If she is already out by then, well, we will still celebrate....
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