What Will Women Lose if McCain is POTUS

[otohara]

all this talk of democratic women threatening to vote for McCain will amount to some serious consequences in the area of women's rights and wellbeing.

The biggest threat of course will be the overturning of Roe vs Wade.

But, there's more....
how about welfare, minimum wage, child care, education cuts, SCHIP cuts, college cuts, and of course the never ending Iraq occupation will make life for women and families in the military worse than it already is.

So ladies, think very hard before you cast your vote for John McCain. Think of your mothers, sisters, daughters, grand daughters, etc. They will lose much more than Hillary Clinton ever will.

[billyoc]

1. Considering his pet name for his blushing bride, I would say

much.

[Fredda Weinberg]

2. Ladies? Not since I was 12 ... you're addressing women now

And we won't be taken for granted any more. If we stay home, the party will learn.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. If you stay home,you obviously don't care about women.

:shrug:

[Fredda Weinberg]

16. Was there logic behind that statement? n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. Yes.

The choice is Obama or McCain.

Obama's a champion of women's rights, McCain's a misogynist.

And only a misogynist would stay home.

[Fredda Weinberg]

22. Other women will disagree. Champion of women's rights? Hardly

You can say Barry has a clean voting record, but champion? Please, enough with the lowered expectations.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

26. Sure, misogynists.

Racists. Spoiled brats. And other assorted conservatives.

Fuck 'em.

[woolldog]

49. the only women thinking of staying home are upper class,

white women who, of all women, have the least to lose. Their wealth and skin color and privilege will insulate them from the deleterious effects of a McCain presidency, so they don't care. Not so for their less fortunate sisters. But they don't care. It's about them and how they feel, not what's best for women.

That's why these appeals fall on deaf ears.

[Vinca]

6. OMG, I must be getting old and confused.

Is the term "ladies" now derogatory? Or did you forget the sarcasm smilie? If not . . . what's wrong with "ladies????"

[SeattleGirl]

7. So being referred to as a woman is more important to you than

abortion rights, access to contraception, stopping the war in Iraq, healthcare, the minimum wage, and all the other things the OP mentioned?

Wow.

[Swamp Rat]

10. More important than human beings, animals, and plants.

[SeattleGirl]

14. Amazing, isn't it?

Some people would rather win the battle and lose the war. :shakes head:

[last1standing]

11. The party will definitely learn.

Just as they learned after progressives sat out in 1994 the party will learn to adjust their message to bring in different factions.

I'm thinking there are a number of socially conservative organizations who would love to find a new home now that the republicans are doing so poorly down ticket. If your idea comes to fruition, they may have found one. :shrug:

[mkultra]

12. temper tantrums dont make you a woman. They make you a child

[Fredda Weinberg]

17. Temper? This is cold: Accept the consequences of your actions n/t

It's too late for anything else.

[SeattleGirl]

20. What? It is your actions, or your proposed action of staying home,

that could have dire consequences for this country, including for WOMEN.

You gonna accept any responsibility for that?

[Fredda Weinberg]

23. Don't put words in my mouth. You won't find me anywhere advising anyone

But I will speak truth to this congregation.

[SeattleGirl]

25. How did I put words in your mouth?

:shrug:

[Fredda Weinberg]

27. I proposed no action n/t

[SeattleGirl]

28. You talked about staying home.

THAT is an action.

[Fredda Weinberg]

31. That would be the consequence of your action ... not my proposal

Sorry, but you have to read what's written, not your anxieties.

[SeattleGirl]

34. Twist twist twist. Spin spin spin. Lie lie lie.

You are truly a sorry person.

Oh, I mean, woman.

[mkultra]

50. your actions are to stay home

The consequences will be a McCain win. You do what you think is right and so will we. We will not be bullied by your threats.

[DAGDA56]

18. Neither party has taken women for granted since 1920...they don't print ballots

in pink and blue. As for your final threat, (for that is what it sounds like), what exactly will the party learn?

[IndependentDem]

36. how many women and children are you prepared to sacrafice...

so that "the party will learn" and women "won't be taken for granted any more"

Staying home out of spite or to prove a point is also enabling the continued destruction of our country and killing of thousands of innocent people in Iraq and whatever other country the repubs decide to conquer.

Your ok with that? And what lesson is the party supposed to learn that is more important than another person's life?

[Mezzo]

37. I agree. This calling HRC a fucking whore, and the host of other sexist comments here AND the media

and then expecting us to rally excitedly around a man who did nothing about it is a bit insane.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

43. Hillary refers to herself as a "girl."

[Exilednight]

48. If you stay home, you don't deserve to complain. Decisions are made by those that bother to show up

Sit at home and see what it brings you.

Here's the funny part, those that are lazy and refuse to actually do something always seem to be the loudest complainers.

[Vinca]

3. His position on abortion has now gone to the extreme -

no exception for rape, incest or life of the mother. Also, his healthcare "plan" will quadruple the uninsured (best case scenario).

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. There are over 600,000 dead women in Iraq.

There will be many more, if McCain's president.

[WeDidIt]

8. Reproductive Freedom and Equal Pay under the law

are two things women lose right off the bat.

By the end of the first term you can count on all forms of birth control being illegal, too.

Then comes the rollback on prtoection from sexual harrassment in the workplace.

More will happen, those are just the beginning.

Read The Handmaid's Tale for a glimpse of how things would be within six years or so.

[Swamp Rat]

9. Their children, in an endless war for dominance of the Middle East.

[cynatnite]

13. We'll have to do some educating of women in this area n/t

[QueenOfCalifornia]

15. This one

will lose her mind.

[susankh4]

21. In case you don't know it...

American women have endured far worse than John McCain.

We'll vote how we damn well please. Thank you.

[SeattleGirl]

24. So, are you saying that you're willing to continue to "endure", rather

than voting for someone who won't roll back women's rights?

Holy shit.

[otohara]

32. Enduring Is Getting Old

Is that what we're all about?

[durrrty libby]

29. What a fucking joke. BO has never been a champion of anything

let alone women's rights

He's a great teleprompter reader and that's it.

If you cardboard Messiah followers cared anything about "mothers, sisters, daughters, grand daughters, etc" Hillary would be the hands down nominee.

Your pathetic hypocrisy is noted

[Rainbowreflect]

33. As a mother, daughter, sister, granddaughter, etc.

I was happy to vote for Obama and will be even happier to vote for him in November.
I would have voted for Clinton if she had been the nominee, but I would not have been as happy. She speaks for me a lot less than Obama does.
What I find most insulting and sexist is treating all women as if they are all the same.

[durrrty libby]

41. BO speaks for you as a woman?How pathetic and clueless

Enjoy the cardboard Messiah. He is a fraud and you deserve him

[Rainbowreflect]

44. It must be an amazing view from your pedestal.

But I am neither pathetic or clueless. I have done my research and made my choice. But I will not lower myself to petty insults of those who disagree with me.

[durrrty libby]

46. .

[durrrty libby]

47. "I have done my research " Yeah riiiight. Put on the nikes

and enjoy your delusion

[SeattleGirl]

45. The only people calling Obama a messiah are Clinton supporters.

Believe it or not, men can and DO speak for women too.

[durrrty libby]

51. "men can and DO speak for women too." Yes indeed just ask the

women of the FLDS

Truly, I pity them and you

[WinkyDink]

30. Thank you ever so. But I do believe this is a website for supporters of Democratic candidates, so

your post is misdirected.

[Mezzo]

39. Truer words, truer words.

[GoesTo11]

35. Critical supreme court appointments could roll things back to 1960.

McCain will add to the rock solid block of Scalia, Thomas, Alito and Roberts. These four are all extreme and trying to rewrite the law. With one more (let alone 2), they would be unstoppable and roll back all sorts of things. It would be a corporate theocracy.

[Vinca]

38. And getting Hillary elected in 2012 wouldn't be able to change it.

Supreme Court appointments are for life.

[rasputin1952]

40. I keep seeing things like, "We'll teach the party a lesson" or...

"I'm voting my principles".

Pretty light ideology there, and I don't mean that ot be a slap, I mean it to show just how an individual would give up everything in the name of a "principle" or "lesson", that is essentially meaningless, simply because the only effect it could have is to possibly put McCain into office. That is neither a principle nor a lesson, it is a condition that would put us on a road to national suicide, is that what anyone wants?

The one principle here should be to get this nation back to something we can be proud of; a nation where we are moving forward on issues of great importance. Equal Rights, Education, Peace, Compassion, Freedom from fear...these are goals we should be moving toward, McCain would continue this Dark Age we are in today, and have been since the Little Emperor came about. By sitting out the election, or by actually voting for the Ghost, we could set the stage for 4 more years of even worse setbacks. As it stands right now, we have a LOT to recover before we can even move forward, to drag us back is not just shameful, it is disastrous.

Principles are BIG things, as well as personal ones. This country must be guided by a set of principles that have been lost over time, by allowing the R's to have any semblance of power, we ALL lose. Now is not the time for the Sunshine Patriot not the Summer Warrior who leaves at the first hint of a problem, now is the time for all of us to come together to beat back the beast, to destroy every vestige of neo-conservatism, to ensure that this nation can once again be a beacon of light, a symbol of Freedom and Equality, leading the way into the future, ensuring that our children and our Grandchildren will have a world where they will ot have to sit down and beg for crust of bread or a glass of water from the Lord of the Manor.

There will other elections, but this is the most important we shall face in our lifetimes. I can't force anyone to vote, and I never would, but if this nation falls any further behind, there will be NO ONE to blame but ourselves. I find that option not viable...so i will vote for D's down the line, and when they come to power, I will stay in contact with them to ensure they do the right thing, and NOT turn this nation any further down the road of self destruction. I hope all of you will do the same.

[BearSquirrel2]

42. They wouldn't DARE overturn Roe v. Wade ...

They get far too many votes from anti-abortion electioneering. The last thing they want is to overturn it. Then they would have dead women on their hands and the liberals would kick their ass in amendment contests across the nation.

The people who actually run the Republican party have ZERO interest in actually accomplishing this particular "goal".

[OzarkDem]

52. Obama will lose even with Clinton supporters votes

He is a weak candidate who will be destroyed by the GOP in the GE.

[Perry Logan]

53. You're trying to get through to Obamites?

I love your optimism!