I am a woman. I believe Hillary's campaign is playing the "gender card"

[madfloridian]

and using it to just keep going on and on and on. She and her husband and their surrogates often refer to the fact that she is being mistreated because she is a female.

She is using that sexism thing, and she is using my state as well. She is claiming a popular vote win by using a sanctioned state.

This goes beyond being "just politics."

It is promoting things that are not true at all, and promoting the pretense that they are valid. The media is not helping because they love the tension of the race.

Hillary is not losing because she is a woman. She is losing because she just kept parroting old worn out talking points, because she ran a poor campaign based on tired themes of division and anger.

The party's leaders are being timid because her husband was a two-term Democratic president. They on the whole are letting this thing take its course, and I don't think they have a clue what it is doing to the party. I really don't think they do. I think many of the superdelegates are cowardly, worrying that they will lose constituent votes if they endorse too soon.

I agree with almost every word in this article at Huffington Post today. More should be speaking out like this.

Hillary's Sexist End-Game

This morning, on the Today Show, 1984's Vice Presidential candidate and Hillary Clinton campaign surrogate Geraldine Ferraro pulled the trigger and cynically played the unfortunate but inevitable "gender card" -- she called Barack Obama "sexist." In March 2008 she groused that "if Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept." She offended so many of us who are gender- and color-blind in this election cycle that she was rightly called on the carpet for her inane comments and removed from Clinton's "official" campaign functions.Her comments today are no less shocking. When queried if misogyny was to blame for Clinton's defeat after a historically close and contentious campaign, she implored viewers that "it wasn't so much they were referring to gender, it was the way they attacked her. What happened in this race is every time you raised the issue, you're accused of playing the gender card. Latent sexism has been around in this country for a long time, in this campaign it was patent."

Ms. Ferraro needs a good long look in the mirror -- sexism cuts both ways and Hillary's continued presence in this campaign is, in and of itself, a manipulation of the very concept of sexism. People throughout the U.S. and abroad are scratching their collective heads wondering why Hillary is still "going all the way to Denver" when the delegate campaign mathematics ate her for lunch weeks ago.

What her campaign never realized was that our country had reached a point of being proud of having a woman and an African American man running for president at the same time. It was something awesome.

She is the one who turned it into something it never was...."sexism."

Obama is a young, brilliant, charismatic statesman with a moving personal narrative. a picture-perfect family, a stunningly effective campaign team whose strategists ran a brave, hard-fought campaign against spectacular odds and beat the most powerful Democratic political machine of the past two decades.

Obama is gutsy, articulate, elegant, unflappable and full of ideas and energy. Everything that the Clintons secretly believe is their personal bailiwick. He MUST, Clinton insiders say, be stopped at all costs, even if she takes herself and the Democratic Party down with her.

She is using a new system of math that is meant to confuse the uninformed voter.

Someone said they respected my posts about Florida, but they found me spending too much time criticizing Hillary.

Actually right now it is hard to separate the two in my mind. She is using my state as a way to keep going, to keep claiming people are against her because she is a female, claiming that Obama is sexist, and so on.

It is keeping her going.

We had two bright shining candidates when this started. It was our year to be winners. Our decision to support Obama was made on the day she claimed the delegates here. We saw how it would be used, as a vehicle to hurt the party.

Governor Dean made some comments in NH this week-end.

Dean, Dems calling for party unity

The most important jobs of the next President, Dean said, will be to "heal our nation" and "restore the moral authority of the United States in the rest of the world."

Dean recalled some gentle chiding he got from Al Gore at the end of Dean's own unsuccessful Presidential bid in 2004. "This is not about you. This is about your country," Gore reminded him.

And, Dean told the delegates, "This is not about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, either. This is about our country. This is not about George Bush and John McCain; it's about our country. We live in the greatest country on the face of the earth, and it's time we started acting like that again."

The crowd, which party officials said was the largest for a state party convention in more than 30 years, rose to its feet, cheering.

There are no entitlements, there are no special layers, no hierarchy.

[Binka]

1. K & R

AAARRRGGGHHH. Time to throw some darts at the Hillary board on my lunch hour.

[youngharry]

78. Throwing darts

Please don't overlook throwing darts at the Today Show. They constantly give voice to Obama detractors, like Ferraro in hopes of bringing down the Democratic Party. Watch carefully and you will find all the right-wing talking points coming out of that show, especially from MATT LAUER who is one of the most morally and intellectually dishonest people on TV.

WATCH CAREFULLY AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN.

[bunnies]

2. That huffpo article nails it for me.

I can't believe she's getting away with this. Its just SO shameful.

[NightWatcher]

3. I expect you will turn in your vajayjay by the end of business today, traitor

[BlooInBloo]

14. Her hooha!!

:rofl:

I love scrubs!

[NanceGreggs]

4. If you ever posted something that was less than EXCELLENT ...

... the shock would probably kill me!


:kick: :kick: :kick: AND REC'D!!!

[madfloridian]

34. Aww...

I love to have a compliment from you. It means so much. :hi:

[countingbluecars]

5. I agree.

And it is a slap in the face to all the women who have faced and fought real sexism. I am surprised at how low she and her followers are sinking in using this argument.

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. Which does bring up the image of her slapping herself.

I really am less angry than sad to see an icon fall. Particularly as a result of her own actions.

[SoonerPride]

6. Right on target, as per usual. K & R

Another great post.

[reflection]

7. K&R

[Aloha Spirit]

8. I really want to respond, but I took a 72 hour pledge to not be critical of Hillary. Oh well.

[Eurobabe]

9. On the mark, K+R

[jsmirman]

10. Here's what I want to know. Did the Hillary campaign, outside of a smooth victory

ever even contemplate a campaign where they would not at some point cry "SEXISM"???

Because with the pathetically inadequate examples they've tried to tie this accusation to Obama, it seems perfectly clear that NO CAMPAIGN IN HUMAN HISTORY COULD HAVE BEEN RUN AGAINST HER that wouldn't have yielded at least these shreds that they're trying to tie together into a bitching cloth.

Seriously. Hillary vs. A Computer, and judging from what we've seen out of Ferraro, they would still find something to base a spurious claim of sexism on. Heck, even Hillary against another woman, and they probably pin sexism on that woman's supporters.

[AtomicKitten]

11. The Clintons have been working the "isms" throughout this campaign.

Their divisive tactics shame the Democratic Party.

[jsmirman]

12. Oh, and I couldn't agree more with pretty much every word that you wrote. *

nm

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. "She is using a new system of math that is meant to confuse the uninformed voter."

I am REALLY getting irritated with this one. The Clinton camp is repeating a LIE over and over and people are believing it. She is NOT ahead in the popular vote by any legitimate measure.

[madfloridian]

15. Yes, they are believing it.

There is no one really countering her arguments. They should be.

[MaineDem]

73. This is what's annoying me more than anything

And people, including many many here at DU, believe every syllable of it. It's not honest and very misleading. I'm extremely disappointed by Hillary on this point alone.

[me b zola]

17. K&R

[Texas Hill Country]

18. LOL, yeah, cause there has been no sexism in the coverage she has gotten at all....

Chris Matthews is the most egregious example. He is HORRENDOUS.

[KoKo]

19. From what I've seen from MSM and some posters here on DU, I'd say

she has a point. Hillary has as much to fight for what she believes as any other Dem Candidate does.

I voted for Obama but, I'm sick of the gender attacks and ageism attacks on Hillary and Geraldine Ferarro. If I didn't truly believe that Obama doesn't support the kind of stuff I've seen posted here against Hillary...I couldn't have voted for him. I hope that most of the attackers are just trolls who wandered in here or ops. Although I've seen some that I know who've been here a long while and are respected, jump into attacks on Hillary or Ferarro that are so OTT one has to assume it comes from some kind of inner hatred of women and has nothing to do with politics.

[madfloridian]

24. I don't give a damn how long and hard she fights. Just be honest.

Stop claiming two states that are out of play by pretending it is someone else's fault.

Fight fairly and honestly.

[KoKo]

31. Women are often so quick to attack their OWN....It must be some "self-loating" we have about each

other that allows this to happen. I'm sad to see this from you "Mad."

[madfloridian]

33. Oh, stop with it, please. Hillary is not losing because she is a woman.

That has nothing to do with it.

It is her campaign.

[KoKo]

35. There much that has to do with her campaign...but the rest is because she's

female. We need to look at the "whole picture," here.

[madfloridian]

42. There is NO whole picture. There are rules people go by...except her.

I am disgusted.

[KoKo]

46. What rules has she broken with the Dem Party? n/t

[madfloridian]

50. That's it.

Bye. I emptied my list way too soon.

[KoKo]

52. That's sad to hear...after kicking and replying to so many of your posts

for years here on DU that you would say such a thing to me.

I guess that "zeal" seems to trump experience with "fellow travelers" working for change in the Dem Party these days.

Whatever... Bye...I won't put you on ignore though. I still think discussion is worthwhile...unlike the Repugs.

[madfloridian]

60. Well,

the list is not working. I did not have you on before BTW, and I am not going to do it now. We have a history of getting along.

But I am tired of the supporter stuff.

[KoKo]

72. This Primary has us all on edge...

Maybe it's better to just hit "K&R" these days rather than engaging. I just get so sick of the cursing and vile language used against Clinton by many here. I do feel it's sexism...but for some reason it's not allowed to be discussed because there are those who feel Hillary deserves to be cursed out and called names that we wouldn't support if they were used against female posters on this Board.

Tempers are high. Peace :hug:

[donheld]

62. You let them win

You make it look as though you got backed into a corner then ignored
them. I've seen you do that many times. I wish you wouldn't do that.

[madfloridian]

63. I took that back with her.

But there are too many here that it is useless to try to communicate with.

It makes it less stressful.

I never used to do it, but when there is an influx organized elsewhere targeting me it is best I don't see it.

[donheld]

65. I went 4 years without using Ignore

Then came this bloody primary. I've used it a lot. The only reason I responded to you was because I know you could have answered that post with ease. I don't want to see them bash you as they do so many others.

Thanks again for all your work.

[madfloridian]

66. Thanks...

I usually get the word when I am a target. I hate it but it happens when you post controversial things. I know when to expect it usually.

:hi:

[LaurenG]

69. Do you like every woman you know or know about?

Some of us see things about her that aren't as honest as we'd like to see in any President male or female. She hasn't been honest and she has said some things that forced me to realize she really doesn't care about the truth just about her "agenda".

And yes I do think a strong female would be fabulous for this country but not one who will sacrifice the truth along with her democratic counterpart for the sake of her own ego. There were plenty of things she could have said about Senator Obama that were within bounds and many ways she could have shown her best qualities as a leader but she chose the low road.

She doesn't fit well with me or my ideas of how a human being should treat a rival and she (and her supporters) can't scream sexism every time someone says something she doesn't like. If all strong woman screamed sexism every time she has we would be absolutely lost in an ocean of victim-hood rather than being the effective and decisive people we are meant to be.

[geiger]

76. my bottom line, too.

and now she's proven herself a liar.

[Pastiche423]

20. Excellently put together post, Mad

As always. My state, for the 1st time since I moved here eight years ago, is actually going to matter in this campaign.

If all the polls and the amount of people in attendance for the candidates is indicative, Obama will swamp Clinton.

As a woman and a Democrat, I am ashamed of the actions of Hillary Clinton. Moreover, I dearly hope my state will finally knock her out of the race.

At least my phone will stop ringing off the hook. Had I not already made my decision, the rude phone calls from Clinton's supporters would have clinched my vote for Obama.

[Swamp Rat]

21. madfloridian!!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:



:kick:

[VotesForWomen]

22. ok, and nobody votes against O because he's black. could we (at DU) STFU on this subject already?

[stillcool]

23. These articles grabbed my attention...

a while back...

Sunday, November 4, 2007
CLINTON PLANNED TO USE GENDER CARD ALL ALONG

RON FOURNIER, AP - Clinton's advisers, speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss internal matters, said there is a clear and long-planned strategy to fend off attacks by accusing her male rivals of gathering against her. The idea is to change the subject while making Clinton a sympathetic figure, especially among female voters who often feel outnumbered and bullied on the job. As one adviser put it, Clinton is not the first presidential candidate to play the "woe-is-me card" but she's the first major female presidential candidate to do it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071101/ap_po/on_deadline_c...

Did Hillary "Play The Gender Card"?
By Greg Sargent - November 2, 2007, 3:51PM

So what really happened here, anyway?
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2007/11/did_hillary_play_the_gender_card.php
After the debate, Hillary's campaign sent out an email describing her as "one tough woman" and deriding the nature of the "piling on" that had ensued. And the next day, AFSCME president Gerald McEntee endorsed Hillary with remarks that almost certainly had plenty of input from the Hillary campaign: "Six guys against Hillary. I’d call that a fair fight. This is one strong woman.:
So just after the debate the campaign didn't argue that she was being attacked because she's a woman. But the campaign clearly did try to strongly emphasize the gender picture here.
--------------------

Hillary pollster Mark Penn subsequently said in a conference call that the image of six men beating up on Hillary would play well with female voters. And anonymous Clinton advisers told the Associated Press that "there is a clear and long-planned strategy to fend off attacks by accusing her male rivals of
gathering against her." Though one should approach anonymous stuff with caution, this doesn't seem especially difficult to believe.
---------------------------------------------------------
Bottom line: As best as we can determine, Hillary never explicitly made the accusation that the men were piling up on her because she's a woman. But you'd have to be very credulous indeed not to believe that the campaign is explicitly trying to emphasize, for various political reasons, the fact that she's a woman getting hammered by a bunch of men. I don't know if that constitutes "playing the gender card" or not -- the exact meaning of the term is unclear, at least to me -- but that's obviously what's going on.

[madfloridian]

25. Ah, thank you, I missed those.

Glad you shared them.

[madfloridian]

26. Both Clintons stepping up attacks on Obama...Bill brings in FL and MI

That is their weapon. Those states, my state. Their weapon.

"Campaigning with his wife in Kentucky, former President Clinton dismissed Obama's inevitable claim on pledged delegates.

"There won't be tonight, unless you decapitate Michigan and Florida, which violates our values and is dumb politics," Bill Clinton said.

Kentucky, where Hillary Clinton concentrated much of her efforts in recent days, had 51 convention delegates at stake.

....Increasingly, Obama has been concentrating his campaign on John McCain, the Republican nominee-in-waiting, rather than on Clinton.

The former first lady has jettisoned the sharp attacks against Obama that characterized the race only a few weeks ago, although she bristled on Monday at his decision to focus on the fall campaign. "You can declare yourself anything, but if you don't have the votes, it doesn't matter," she said in a satellite interview with an Oregon television station."


http://www.timesanddemocrat.com/articles/2008/05/20/ap/headlines/d90pj1t85.txt

[TahitiNut]

27. I agree 100%.

:thumbsup: Obama was not my first or second choice, but he's EARNED my (ideologically hesitant) support by sheer force of character and a campaign that's adhered to affirmative and people-oriented values.

Hillary has destroyed what little willingness I had to vote for her by running a mean-spirited, self-pitying, fragmented, and schizophrenic campaign. She has shown herself as deceitful and dishonest. It's beyond tragic that she's portrayed as some 'champion' for gender equity when she's made herself into a caricature of spite and pique.

[madfloridian]

28. We started out for Edwards...

then considered all three of the frontrunners. What a great group of Dems we had running. Obama has been impressive.

[Ichingcarpenter]

29. I started with Dennis on Principle then Edwards

Now Obama.

You are right on your OP... just wanted to tell you that
keep up all your good work.

[madfloridian]

30. Thank you.

:hi:

[TexasObserver]

32. Hillary is definitely playing the gender card.

She has since day one: "I'm a woman, you're a woman, vote for me!"

[Arugula Latte]

36. This woman agrees.

[madfloridian]

37. I just saw part of her speech. She is not going to quit...ever.

I feel so angry....we had it all going for us this year as Democrats.

Now she is making it all about her. My state is divided and angry, and Dems are going after each other here.

[KoKo]

38. Really? And if she'd dropped out who would have made Obama a more Fine-Tuned Candidate?

the MSM or McSame? :rofl:

[madfloridian]

39. Oh, dear God, you are really serious.

To hell with rules or anything...it is all about her.

[KoKo]

40. I voted for Obama in NC...but, I'm starting to wonder if I made correct choice

given what I see coming from his supporters.......

I'm a woman...I'm sick of the sexism, ageism coming from DU Obama Supporters and those who want to "hang on" to be in the "popular crowd of "stone throwers against a legitimate Dem Candidate"...whether we like her tactics or not. She's in there because she's finishing her job...and not one of those weenie, spineless Dems we've lived with for 7 years. I give her credit...as clueless as her campaign seems to be...that woman has PLUCK! And, she's STILL WINNING VOTES...which seems to piss off Obama supporters to no end...driving them crazy, even though they know he will be the nominee in the end.

[madfloridian]

41. I see destructiveness

So what the hell does it matter.

The Clintons are proving it is their party. And I guess it effing is.

[KoKo]

44. OFGS....it's a Campaign! You'd rather Obama be declared winner in February and have

the mainstream already to have painted him as the "McGovern/Dukakis Candidate" even before the Reverend Wright story broke?

Hey...I was always hoping Al Gore would come in...or Kucinich could get some traction...but it was the High Rollers who won the day. If Obama had been out there by himself since February without Hillary taking some of the heat and forcing the media to cover us Dems and our Policy Proposals do you think he would have a chance of being where he is today as the Frontrunner?

If MSM had done to Obama alone what they will do to him once he's "Declared the Nominee" then I might have gotten my wish for Al Gore. Obama would be mincemeat without Hillary staying in the race. All states are having their chance to vote. There's tremendous excitement about the "Process" on the Dem Side for once! I'm happy with that!

I like so much about Obama...it's sad his supporters ruin it. I worry that his supporters will keep the Hillary folks from coming around to him because they are so angry, nasty and argumentative along with being sexist and ageist.

[madfloridian]

45. I heard the same crap from people in 04....how they hated Dean supporters.

It is a stupid childish game. Hillary is a grown woman, she has lost. She is staying in to hurt our nominee.

Shame on those who enable her.

[KoKo]

47. She's still winning voters in small states who come out for her....State by State

was Howard Dean's 50 State Strategy. I support Dean's strategy. You didn't answer my question about what MSM and RW would have done to Obama if Hillary had dropped out after February, though. :shrug:

[Ddan]

54. I can understand what you're saying BUT . .

As long as the math and the money is there then go for it. Campaign until the wheels fall off. The problem now is that the wheels HAVE fallen off. Please read the article with an open mind and it may give you perspective.

PS. I understand that you are upset with some Obama supporters but you can say the same about Hillary supporters. Everyone's got their bullheaded assholes. Just in any situation you may meet a lot of people that act a certain way but one person (or 20) does not represent the whole group. Look at Barack as an individual, not as a guy that a bunch of supporters that piss you off support. Hillary Clinton didn't lose my support because of her supporters. I don't support her because of the way she's ran her campaign.



:grouphug:

[KoKo]

55. The way she has run her campaign is dreadful...but she's still there and a Dem...

Obama has it sewn up...yet his supporters here continue vicious attacks against women Dems, older people, uneducated people and the poor.

[Ddan]

56. She is still a DEM and I respect her as a person. I don't like what she's done but I respect her

I understand that you're upset because his supporters have said horrible things but, I can pull PLENTY of rude remarks from Hillary supporters. It's gotten ugly on both sides and I'm new. I did a lot of lurking before posting and I almost left the DU before I started. One has nothing to do with the other. I'm a Obama supporter and I'm not calling you a racist. Does that still make me an asshole? There are some NICE Obama supporters out there just like there are some NICE Hillary supporters out there.

:pals:

[madfloridian]

58. I am a NICE Obama supporter when people don't use ridiculous rhetoric.

Lies are hurting my state terribly.

[KoKo]

59. Thanks....

it's nice to hear from a reasonable supporter. I'm an Obama supporter, too... :hug:

[madfloridian]

61. I think I am quite reasonable. I just post things that are painfully true.

I don't think I deserve to be in that category.

[Scurrilous]

43. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Iceburg]

48. You are also the woman leading the parade here at DU to disenfranchise the Florida voters

[madfloridian]

77. That is pathetic. Hillary has done propaganda so well, that truth doesn't matter.

It's ok, I have a tough hide

[madfloridian]

49. Did you hear Tim Russert say the electoral map she used was done by Rove?

He held it up, and he said the map Hillary was using was done by Karl Rove.

[KoKo]

53. Do you believe anything Tim Russert says? Remember Scooter Libby and Russert

was the one the Repugs stovepiped their Talking Points to?

[Overseas]

57. Yes, Hillary said so herself.

She mentioned it in a speech today that Karl Rove issued a report saying she'd be a stronger candidate against McLame.

[Mimosa]

51. HRC uses politics of division -fears and biases-to 'win' and we lose

This is sad. When some women believe it's all about being a woman. It's not.

[Lugnut]

64. I'm a woman

I agree with you. I'd love to see a female president in office in my lifetime. The one who's running is not the one.

[Life Long Dem]

67. I think it's a losing battle.

When she was winning she was a woman. She said so herself. Now that she lost, the boys club gang's up on her.

[krkaufman]

68. (It hasn't exactly been a secret, eh?)

:)

[indimuse]

70. you are a woman with a history of HATE for HIllary..Your post iss Nul and VOID!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty6krf18huA





www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lcWgE-3Bos

[LaurenG]

71. Are all your posts this ugly and devisive?

Your post gets a big fat 0 in comparison to mad. What is that they say oh yeah...fail.

[PVnRT]

81. Yes, they are

[ShortnFiery]

74. Yes, HRC is NO role model for women. She has NO moral standards. That's for damn sure. eom

[geiger]

75. If Carville hadn't given up his domestic campaign career

to allow time for his wife to have an unfettered career and take time for his two young girls, Hillary might be headed to the White House. Too bad she had to hire greedy media sellers with no concept of how delegates were accumulated, assembled and otherwise united. Ironic.

[sybylla]

79. Thanks for always saying what needs to be said

and saying it so well. I never miss your posts, madfloridian. Such a voice of reason in these frustrating times is a breath of fresh air.

:toast:

[Deep13]

80. She's losing because she's a woman trying to act like a man.

People are offended by it and Obamists like you and in the media are happy to capitalize on it. Maybe if that were not true she would lose anyway. There is no way to know. Frankly, women who accuse HC of "playing the gender card" are undercutting your own interests and those of other women. I am NOT as you will likely claim suggesting that women must vote for women. But pretending sexism isn't an issue is blaming the victim. It is no surprise, however, as you have demonstrated a disregard for journalistic integrity throughout this campaign.

[madfloridian]

82. I consider that a personal attack on me. A very bad one indeed. You said:

"It is no surprise, however, as you have demonstrated a disregard for journalistic integrity throughout this campaign."

I have integrity, I use sources, and I post things that are true.

I resent this personal attack.

[madfloridian]

87. I hope others read what you said to me.

"It is no surprise, however, as you have demonstrated a disregard for journalistic integrity throughout this campaign."

It would be nice to know others read it as well.

[Perry Logan]

83. "There...isn't a woman I know over 40 who will vote for Barack Obama..."

From an "uppity woman's" blog:

"There...isn't a woman I know over 40 who will vote for Barack Obama. John McCain could pull a Weekend at Bernie's and we would still vote for him. Every Jew and gay/lesbian I know feels the same way. I won't even get into my Italian family. You don't have your surrogate call a dago a "Garlic Nose" and expect a vote in the end. It's a personal thing. Barack Obama and his surrogates have offended many voting blocks no matter how many ways Roland Martin spins it. Any woman who has spent some time competing in Corporate America recognizes him. Besides being sexist, his campaign has clearly hung out its bigotry laundry as well. Barack Obama also has a very noticeable disdain for people who work with their hands to make life easier for people like him: He just doesn't get how almost irreversibly offended they really are: "Mr. Obama's aides said they were not concerned with exit polls showing that he had hemorrhaged white working-class voters". For a man who **claims** to have grown up poor, he sure has forgotten the common people.
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com/

[HCE SuiGeneris]

84. I know of 8 women over 40 voting for Obama, including my 72 y/o mom.

[madfloridian]

85. Pathetic statement, ugly website.....what some have descended to is shocking.

.

[madfloridian]

86. I hope people visit that website you linked to and approved of.

There is not much else to say.

Hillary has harmed this party so very much. The Clintons have tarnished their reputation.

[madfloridian]

88. In fact people should visit this website, follow the links.

This kind of thing should not be posted here at DU.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com/

[Perry Logan]

91. I'm holding it up to you and saying: "This is how you fucked up."

That's constructive criticism, my good man.

[madfloridian]

93. I am a woman, and you are linking to an obnoxious racist website.

That is absolutely pathetic

[Perry Logan]

92. "Now for the more subtle reasons I don't like him..."

"Now for the more subtle reasons I don't like him: His attitude and the damage he has done. The way he has personally set gender and racial relations back at least 30 years in order to advance himself is extremely offensive. The way CNN and MSNBC surrogates set things up for him at Hillary's expense was inexcusable. There was also a gaggle of amazingly young "new" and "objective" political "analysts" and "consultants" who acted a lot like people who worked at Starbuck's last year at this time. They, along with his admitted "spokesmen," were mercilessly sexist and racist, and, as time moved on, they weren't even trying to be subtle about it. Governor Wilder was a perfect example of this, when he appeared on TV and used just about every sexist stereotype that was ever devised. Even Jamal was horrified. He topped it all off by stating that "Black men can't argue with white women". No kidding. He said that.

[gal]

89. Good for you and well said.

I agree totally. No one has used sex more in this campaign than Hillary Clinton and her campaign. I personally think she is making women look bad with lies, flip flopping and bad campaign management.
I vote on issues and principles, sex and race don't fall into that.

[DemocracyInaction]

90. Sexism? How About Bush-ism?

I'm a woman, an old one, and it's time we women grew up. Yes, that's right...grew up. Her harem hasn't.Just go play with the boys and shut up about it. I did. And by laying off the "poor, little woman routine" I was respected and successful. What disturbs me about her is watching the same filthy, double talking, smoke and mirrors crap I've watched the Bush Regime pull on the American people for all these years. I don't want to vote for someone who can declare, "see I won by being a sneaky, devious, politically corrupt scum bag"...oh, and by the way, I'm going to go to DC and fight for YOU (cackle, cackle, cackle)!