Well, well, well...a lot of people were certainly taken in by this one...

[QC]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=220809

There's a lesson here, one about not being so quick to give in to wishful thinking. It's what every con artist relies on to do his ugly work.

Hats off to the mods for removing this especially divisive troll.

[AllentownJake]

1. What this one do?

[BlooInBloo]

4. I can't remember - I do remember seeing the name tho.

[QC]

5. The two threads telling how he was a reformed Republican

who thinks that we need to purge our party of all the impure.

He was, in his telling of the story, a guy who voted for Reagan and both Bushes but has seen the error of his ways and only wants what is good for the Democrats.

People were lining up to agree, and then he turned out to be a troll.

It reminds me a lot of a very skilled troll we had years ago named seventhson. He took in many people here before voluntarily unmasking himself as a freeper on election night of 2004.

[BlooInBloo]

8. Ooooh yah! Thanks for the memory-prod!

[AllentownJake]

15. Well

at least he was a skilled troll. Not one of the ones that come on here knowing all the rules after 12 post.

I think I ignored that thread. Something didn't seem right.

[hayu_lol]

53. Seventhson...LOL! That was just one of his 'personalities...

He showed up first over at democrats.com as a 13 year old Korean girl named Thalia(adopted and very right wing--family wealthy etc etc).

We nailed him there and finally got rid of him.

He then began here with the Wellstone crash. On and on. You are correct--the guy was ummm...memorable.

[QC]

75. He really was a genius of a sort. n/t

[Blue_Roses]

61. I thought that was the one named, "frodo"...do you remember that one?

he exposed himself on election too, I think.

[QC]

76. I don't remember that one. I loved seventhson, though.

It was hysterically funny how he would post these utterly deranged conspiracy theories (remember the Haitian mantits?) and some of our more self-important members would rush in to congratulate him on what wonderful "research" he had done and would defend him when others pointed out that he was a blatant troll. And then he revealed himself.

It was a scream!

[hfojvt]

66. purging our party is a stupid idea even if he wasn't a troll.

[mamalone]

84. I remember seventhson!

woot... that's a blast from the past... Election night 2004 was such a horrible night, wasn't it? Everything started out so well- I was utterly convinced that we would win. The exit polls were great, everything looked on track. Then it all fell apart.:cry: No one can tell me it wasn't stolen.


Trolls, I just don't get 'em. It's hard for me to believe that anyone really truly has that much time on their hands to waste. All that energy and creativity could surely be harnessed for a greater good;)

[Enrique]

87. seventhson was a pro

he really did seem to be an expert in staying alive here. Said all the right things, sucked up to all the right people. (Will Pitt, e.g.)

[QC]

90. Yes, he really was an expert.

I kinda miss ole seventhson.

Do you remember who started the whole white plastic chair conspiracy back in 2004? She was the one who called herself a "researcher." Her "research" consisted of screen after screen after screen of links to stuff about people who had similar names to other people, or once lived across the street from them or went to the same school, and the like--very tangential connections, if any at all. She would throw up a 5,000-word post like that, one with about a hundred links in it, and her sycophants would all chime in and praise her "research" and savage anyone who expressed doubts.

Do you remember the one I'm talking about?

[Adelante]

2. Cali called that one

I was more welcoming, but soon started seeing more clearly in other threads.

[QC]

10. Yes, she and I pegged him early this morning. n/t

[anigbrowl]

16. Ah, I didn't see any of his later posts apart from the first 'who I am' one.

[QC]

20. Well, it was just too perfect, too much the reformed sinner,

as OB describes it. A little too melodramatic, like one of those old gospel songs where the broken, weeping sinner appears at the altar call. I'm thinking something like "The Kneeling Drunkard's Plea," by the Louvin Brothers.

[cali]

27. thank WedDem! And thanks for defending me this morning.

:hug:

[Adelante]

32. You're very welcome

:pals:

I should have known better about the troll. I have too much hope. :D

[Barrymores Ghost]

50. I'm sorry, but I got locked out before I could send.

See below.

Peace.

[Radio_Lady]

51. Hey, don't blame me. I went swimming with my grandson for most of the day,

Besides, I have all the non-trolls who circle around and crap on my posts regularly.

Keeps me too busy for anything else except eating, sleeping, showering and (oh, dear... can't mention that... bodily function).

You guys are sharp! Keep up the good work! Oh, and yes, it's all about ME!

Cordially,

Radio Lady

[cbayer]

3. It was stunning to see people fall for it.

Really scary when people swallow poison just because it's saying what they want to hear.

[blonndee]

7. Ironic.

[Phillycat]

6. Not me. I called it from the beginning.

But then, I remember when someone who freely admitted to voting for Reagan, Bush I, Bush II (twice!) and hating Bill Clinton wouldn't have been welcomed with open arms to this website. Silly me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6072655&mesg_id=6075766
Edit: I got flamed for saying so too.

[Occam Bandage]

12. You'll be hard pressed to find a community that won't accept a redeemed soul.

You can talk your way into almost any issue/political/religious group by claiming that you used to be an 'enemy,' but that now you see how wrong the 'enemy' was. Everyone likes being proven right.

[Barrymores Ghost]

48. I had your back, too...I just got locked before I could post it.

See bottom of this thread. Or your inbox.

[Occam Bandage]

9. Not all of us, sir.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6073151&mesg_id=6076841

[QC]

13. Excellent work!

This one was quite skilled, but I think he came on a little too sudden and strong to pull it off. If he had spent a few weeks ingratiating himself with people, doing lots of cute lounge stuff and generally becoming a fixture around the place, I think he could have pulled it off.

[woolldog]

35. I agree. That's the best way to do it. n/t

[Indenturedebtor]

19. Well I stood up for him heh. Oops :P

But in the thread I saw him in he didn't tout any puke policies heh.

He may be a Obamacan, but I'll still hope for his vote in the fall.

[AllentownJake]

25. I know a few Obamicans

They generally try to hide the fact they used to be for the GOP. I was a republican for 2-3 years after coming of age but that's because my Dad was very GOP. Going to college opened my mind.

[Indenturedebtor]

31. Me too. Travelling didn't hurt either heh. Oh and entering the adult world helps too n/t

[DevonRex]

39. Me too. But then since I used to be a republican YEARS ago,

I don't automatically discount it when folks say they've changed parties.

I have to say, though, I didn't read all of that long post. No time or patience for it.

[Adelante]

23. I didn't even see that one

I'm opposed to this purging mentality, in any case.

[SoCalDem]

11. I seem to miss all of them

:)

[Straight Shooter]

14. After reading one of his ugly responses to a long-time DU'er, I dismissed him completely.

I ignored his soapbox thread about being an "Obama Republican." What a crock.

[cali]

17. High Five, QC. We both called that one

and I took a lot of shit for it from my fellow Obama supporters. Hats off to the mods indeed.

Bet he was a retread.

[QC]

22. Yep, we both caught that one. n/t

[Marrah_G]

37. Yup- you did take some abuse.

Some people are just blinded. Good on you that you stuck with your instincts. I would have come down just as hard if he came in saying he was for Hillary.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

18. Who were they?

I've never noticed them. So many angry posters so little time and all that.

Were they a concern troll or a my candidate is better than yours troll?

On edit: I saw their post just now. I had ignored it earlier thinking it bunk without bothering to read it. Good for me!

[AllentownJake]

21. Stir up

crap troll.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

26. Yep. I just saw their thread

I steered clear of them thinking it smelled like BS in the headline.

[AllentownJake]

29. Most Obamicans

Try not to talk about their GOP past unless you draw it out of them. From volunteering they only open up after they know you.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

38. Most converts in general I believe

There's a certain amount of shame and a stigma attached with having supported this Administration. Most of the converts I've met just say they've not been active in politics before. On more than a couple of occasions I've known this not to be true but I don't beat them over the head with the fact.

The only people I know who speak of their political past to me are a few family members.

[Marrah_G]

24. Never ceases to amaze me at how easily people are fooled.

And they got nasty when we pointed it out.

[ShortnFiery]

28. AMEN! eom

[QC]

30. People believe what they want to believe.

It's what every con in the world is based on.

[cali]

36. Isn't it nice to know that you're not an easy mark?

I feel really good about sniffing that one out- particularly as I was really attacked for it by more than a few people.

[Barrymores Ghost]

54. Here's to your supreme detection abilities!!

I'm presenting you with....this Major Award!



:toast:

[Radio_Lady]

59. "There's a sucker born every minute..." And another born to get taken in by him/her...

Some of us have other lives and just have to get on with them.

:toast:

[QC]

78. It's nice to win one now and then, lol. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

88. The Person You Just Referred To Was One Of His Most Vocal Supporters

The irony...

[AllentownJake]

33. So did he get his McCain Credits?

Isn't McCain hiring trolls right now for democratic websites?

[QC]

34. He should at least get the toaster oven--that was some clever trolling. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

40. That's why I asked him why he supported Obama specifically

in my response to him. Because this entire lecture only devoted three lines to him supporting Obama without it linking directly to anything he had just stated.

[Ichingcarpenter]

41. He was a flake, that's why I didn't nominate or comment

Who cares? 30 so posts?

[cali]

43. I noticed you did that.

it was a clever shit stirring OP.

[FrenchieCat]

65. Aye......

That was my clue.....his lack of having much to say about the candidate he allegedly supported.

[democracy1st]

42. I've got a flake for you

GWB he fooled quite a few didn't he

[Barrymores Ghost]

44. self-delete

deleted to accomodate previous post's edits.

[newmajority]

45. I only saw one thread from the guy.

He admitted to be a "republican voting for Obama", but I didn't see anything particularly Freepish about him. Did he come out of the right wing closet later?

[Barrymores Ghost]

47. When he advocated for a purge of moderates and Blue-Dogs from the party, the jig was up. n/t

[newmajority]

64. That would seem like an odd position for a "recovering Republican" to take

I'd like to purge the DLC myself, but I'm a life long Liberal. :evilgrin:

[Barrymores Ghost]

46. ATTACHED: the post I was sending to him as the thread was locked...

I'm not looking for applause. I just spent a lot of time on this, reading, researching and trying to figure out HTML tags....and when I hit "POST," nada.

Thanks for your indulgence.

******************************
Subject: What utter BULLSHIT.


Sorry, pally, I won't be counted among your fawning new friends.

I read your other top-post.

Boy-howdy, sweet-Jesus-Christo-con-carne...that gem gave me a truly un-obscured glimpse at the man behind the myth that we read above -- a wonderful tale which, incidentally, I was willing to accept (with a shrug) as nothing more than a logically free-associative, largely whimsical confession of political ineptitude, chock full'a what might possibly be late-night booze-induced lapses into self-contraction, played to the faint, somber strains of 20th-Century Fox's The Grapes of Wrath.

But your "Purge-and-purification" memorandum is the real hard copy of your manifesto, and I don't need to read another word from you to know exactly who you are and why you're here. But, I have to hand it to you -- you've got quite the knack for prose. And you've really got that whole all-seeing-Oracle hooh-hah down pat. I love it -- especially coming from someone who supposedly, just now, hacked his way out of the "political wilderness," a character-voter with no acumen for policy wonkish-nesh, drawn to the liberal light of Barack Obama, yet never willing or able to elucidate exactly what the attraction is. Other than "he ain't a Clinton," that is.

So, tkmorris, cali, Marah G, DemocratSinceBirth, janesez, tblue37: You're spot-on and I'm 100% in your corner on this one.

MethuenProgressive, Seabiscuit: You're missing the forest for the trees. Set down your knee-jerk defense of Hillary for just one-fucking-moment-if-you-please, and read between his lines.

TheGoldenRule: You're just hanging on by a very thin thread. Take a vacation. Buy yourself a puppy. Get a pedicure...something.

To the OP: Enjoy your brief honeymoon in DU. Your concern for the future of the Democratic Party has been duly noted for the record, and filed away under "Overly-ambitious, Grub-eating Lawn-Diggers."

[Radio_Lady]

52. Great post! In absentia, of course.

[Barrymores Ghost]

55. I thank you...better late than never, I suppose. n/t

[Radio_Lady]

57. Question: How did you manage to save it? I guess you composed it in a word processor...

like MS Word, and then copied it to the POST window. Then you tried to send it?

Usually, what happens to me is -- I work it out right in the POST window, and then (because the topic is locked) I get a MISSING TOPIC message. When I try to back up to the page, the post is gone!

Details, that's all.

Cordially,

Radio Lady Ellen in BLUEOregon

[Barrymores Ghost]

69. When I discovered it was locked, I actually hit the "Back" button, and my text was still there...

I'd also copied an earlier version onto my clipboard, because my browser froze once, and that was that.

[tkmorris]

60. Nice to know someone agreed

I didn't get to see the latter half of that thread, early on it looked like just about everyone was fooled by the guy.

[Barrymores Ghost]

72. Your post in that thread was the SHIT.

Sorry you got flamed so badly by the rest of the brood. I honestly don't know why it didn't raise their antennae, too...

[Marrah_G]

63. Thank you Barry ! Dems first , always!

:hug:

[Barrymores Ghost]

73. back atcha!

;)

[K Gardner]

68. Heh.. I skipped the critter's threads (too predictable) but wouldn't have missed THIS response for

the world !

Good one !! ^5 :applause:

[Barrymores Ghost]

71. thanks!

:toast:

[izzybeans]

94. "Overly-Ambitious, Grub Eating Lawn Diggers"

:rofl:

nice!

[Barrymores Ghost]

95. I was afraid the mods would delete my post if I said...you know...

[myrna minx]

49. I bet he was typing, while sitting in a white plastic lawn chair.

:rofl: Why did this troll have to besmirch and sully a perfectly good New Order song by using it for its login name.

[Radio_Lady]

56. Hey, why are you giving white plastic lawn chairs a bad name?

:rofl:



?v=1155264672

[QC]

79. What more appropriate seating could there be for him?

Not even one of those Dr. Evil chairs would be as fitting!

[tkmorris]

58. So where's the guy who flamed me for thinking him a liar?

That guy was ridiculous, an obvious troll. And yet there were DU'ers who were all over anyone who thought so, presumably because the guy claimed to be an Obama supporter.

"Reagan Democrats" my tired ass.

[cali]

62. yep. I got called all kinds of names for challenging that jerk

what an asshole. People should try reading between the lines.

[Barrymores Ghost]

77. That effin' pissed me off...

...especially when those I considered to be some of the DU sages were seemingly without a clue on this dipshit. Sorry you had to absorb that. Guess some have just been around the block a few times more than others.

[cali]

85. thanks. truth be told, I knew I was going to get slammed when

I challenged Mr. Troll. It's not like I didn't know what I was walking into.

[Barrymores Ghost]

70. Your post was a thing of beauty, and it was what started me looking...

..then cali got fired up and I had to get some licks in.

[bridgit]

67. Never seen, nor heard of them...

[kevinmc]

74. Had him on ignore . knew it was a Troll from the get go....... n/t

[Lilith Velkor]

80. Thank Fuck!

They must be busier than the proverbial one-armed paper hanger with the crabs to let that one go for so long.

[Number23]

81. 'Wishful Thinking'

Well, I responded to one of his threads and I didn't think he'd said anything untoward.

But I was amazed at the folks who jumped all in his sh*t and basically called him a liar and an idiot. There were a number of DU'ers who felt the way he'd articulated that he felt and probably still do. I couldn't relate having never voted for a Repub for president, but I thought his arguments seemed logical.

Even though the mods may have decided that this person was a disruptor (I didn't see any of his threads but that one so he may have been really awful in the rest of them) I still saw absolutely no reason for some of the responses that he received. And now I see the same folks patting themselves on the back on this thread for having gotten rid of a Horrible Troll as if the moderators or anyone asked them for the help.

[cali]

82. aw, you got suckered

there was a reason I challenged that poster. I was right. Damned straight I'm going to pat myself on the back- particularly after all the crap thrown at me, largely by fellow Obama supporters.

[Number23]

83. Maybe I was suckered...

... but you know what, it's okay. If the worse thing that happens to me this week is some anonymous nobody on the Internet got me to agree with his story about being a Repub who decided to vote for Obama, I KNOW my life is good. I would much rather be accused of being a sucker than get called out for being an @sshole.

I mean, what's worse? A DU consumed by disruptive trolls or equally disruptive and obnoxious bullies? I like it here alot. I just wish things would calm the hell down.

[Enrique]

86. I'll pat you on the back too

I didn't see any of it, but there's little that makes me madder than watching a bunch of people let themselves get suckered, especially when the suckers are obnoxious about it.

Kudos to anyone that uses their head.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

92. BlueMonday Fought The Law And The Law Won

~

[DemocratSinceBirth]

89. Good Catch

~

[Tommy_Carcetti]

I knew folks had been Kantored from the get-go. n/t

[Tommy_Carcetti]

91. I knew folks had been Kantored from the get-go. n/t

[DevonRex]

93. Admitted sucker here. Luckily I didn't flame anybody for challenging

him. But I did tell him to ignore them. I'm the idiot, duly chastened.