Most of us expect a compromise solution on 5/31, but Hillary only wins if she gets 100%

[RiverStone]

I am so damn sick of hypotheticals, and yet here we are voters - yet again waiting in suspense for the next campaign "event" - the DNC rules committee meeting in Washington D.C. on May 31.

Lets say Obama accepts FLA as is, even with the DNC pledge et. al., and grants Hillary a percentage of FLA delegates based on that illegitimate contest's voter choices. He gives her that. Then the BEST I can fathom Hillary can hope for is a 50/50 split in MI of the delegates. If all that happened Obama still wins a majority of delegates.

The ONLY way Hillary can win is if she gets FLA delegates seated as is, plus gets 100% of the MI vote. That is, since Obama was not on the ballot, he gets 0%. Anything less equals a delegate defeat for Hillary.

To the point - Hillary is not seeking a compromise solution on May 31st, but a decision entirely and completely weighted in her favor. I hope the corporate MSM plays out that truth.

I'm open to being corrected, but the bottom line seems to be that Hillary (thinks) she can win if she gets 100% of what she wants on May 31st; in her world, any compromise equals defeat.
Of course, that would not be a democratic solution - nothing about that would be democratic at all. :think:

[slinkerwink]

1. that's why she'll say

"While Senator Obama may feel that the decision of the Rules and Bylaws Committee represents a generous compromise, as a matter of principle, I must carry the fight for full representation of Florida and Michigan to the Credentials Committee at the convention in August."

[RiverStone]

6. And if she says that, can she be stopped?

Plausible answer there slinkerwink, but if on June 4 SuperD's in mass flock to Obama - I wonder if Hillary would have any gas left to drive to the convention?

[slinkerwink]

7. Rep. Murtha sent out a letter to all Members of Congress asking them to endorse within a week

of the last primary.

[KittyWampus]

10. slinkerwink, if Michigan and Florida accept the compromise, Hillary has jackshit.

[slinkerwink]

24. It requires all parties to agree. So if one party doesn't agree.....

[MannyGoldstein]

2. It's Over

Don't sweat it.

[RiverStone]

8. Your probably right, but the SCOTUS decision in 2000 left me with a little...

...election PTSD.

Remember, a handful of people decided the outcome for millions and millions of voters?

This feels a little familiar; but logically, your probably right Manny - much ado about (almost) nothing. Still, I'll be watching the news after I come indoors that Saturday :hi:

[Double T]

3. The STRONGEST candidate is unquestionably HRC; wins and landslides........

in KEY STATES and recent primary elections. THE BO momentum is finished; it is HIGH TIME Democrats picked a fighter and a REAL WINNER! Milk Toast ain't gonna cut IT!

[Johnny__Motown]

5. B.S., she has the highest negatives of anyone to ever run for President.. UNELECTABLE

always has been, always will be

[sellitman]

9. Any nessasary means huh?

I seem to recall a few elections of late that was run that way. I take it you had no problem with either of bushes "wins" ?

[Double T]

12. HRC will win this nomination fair and square UNLIKE her opponent.......

who manipulates caucuses and open elections. Of course I'm NOT in favor of judicial coups, hanging chads, rigged voting equipment and disenfranchising voters. What do YOU think I am, a republiCON?

[stevietheman]

16. Obama is the one who played fairly 100%; HRC not so much. n/t

n/t

[rucky]

19. now that you mention it...

[Double T]

22. C'mon, it can't be. The 'worst'?

[sellitman]

21. Explain how counting Michigan is fair?

With a straight face.

[JVS]

32. Getting rules changed is fair while winning caucuses is cheating?

:crazy:

[Blondiegrrl]

14. LOL! What a jokester you are! n/t

[roseBudd]

15. The STRONGEST candidate is unquestionably Obama; wins and landslides........

in KEY STATES and recent primary elections. THE HRC inevitability is finished; it is HIGH TIME Democrats picked a REAL WINNER! Neocon ain't gonna cut IT!

[Liberal Gramma]

23. You forgot to say, "In my opinion"

My opinion is exactly the opposite.

[hfojvt]

26. especially her landslide wins in North Carolina, Oregon, and Indiana

Texas too, I might add.

[RainDog]

28. She squeaked -- ONLY 1% difference in IN

and republican primary turnout was unusually low, Dan Burton noted, men told reporters that they had voted for Hillary ala Rush Limbaugh's chaos.

Her appearance in my town was one week before Obama's in the same venue. She drew 3000. he drew 13,000.

She will destroy this zeitgeist that is ready to work for change by her cynical political manipulation. The Democratic left will flock to the greens. That's reality.

It is really hard to give a damn about a prez candidate when she represents the decades-long control of the white house by one of two families. Fredo was so bad we really need leadership. Like the bill Obama and Kerry got passed today that closes tax loopholes for KBR, the corrupt military contractor, that will be used to fund care for veterans and help fund Americorps programs for college students to afford tuition.

I guess he's not a bad leader after all.

[Political Heretic]

34. landslides in which key state exactly?

[Johnny__Motown]

4. She would still lose with the 100% seating of MI and FL.

[RiverStone]

11. Her surrogates are saying if she gets 100%, SuperD's will switch...

...to her because ---- well, just because!

[ramapo]

18. That's the day I change my registration

She plays by the rules until the rules beat her. She is an embarrassment. I'm beginning to think Bush is a more honest politician.

[mcctatas]

25. is she giving out cookies?

:)

[Rene]

13. Go Hillary....Fight on for what you believe in. YOU represent me.

not an empty resume, empty suit....preacher telling me what to do/think(aagghhh)

[KAZ]

17. Fand U

[rucky]

20. Then it will be decided without her approval.

Simple as that.

[MonkeyFunk]

27. Isn't this how negotiations work?

Your side want her to have nothing, and fight forcefully for it. Clinton's side will argue for all of it. The solution will likely be in the middle.

[RiverStone]

29. I'll settle for the middle

And ultimately MonkeyFunk, the middle is what we need to help unify to kick McCain's ass.

If either camp is left feeling ripped off, unity will be a very challenging proposition.

Damn, it will feel good when we are all on the same team, with the same focus, against the true bad guys - the pukes.

[rucky]

35. Not when we're funding the war.

sadly.

[papapi]

30. Count Florida, boot Michigan, end of story. Period.

[casus belli]

31. self delete...read it wrong. :)

[Political Heretic]

33. She STILL doesn't win

What she wins is the right to claim the popular vote, but counting all votes for her in MI and ZERO for Obama. That's it. She wins the popular vote. She doesn't win pledged delegates - STILL.