Another Note to Zealots. More Advice.

[mrbluto]

If not a zealot, please disregard.

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Look, the Economist (yes, conservative, but not about to lie about this sort of thing) said this yesterday:

"With only three primaries left, Mr Obama is ahead, with 16.7m votes to her 16.2m"

Let's, by some zealot magic, shave a half million off of Hillary's vote count and hand it to Obama for no other reason than to punish her for...for... for getting in Obama's way! Or for daring to contend an election. Either way is fine.

Now that makes it a 52/48 percent popular vote split in Obama's favor.

Surely you can understand that there's absolutely no hazard to vilifying someone supported by a mere 48% of the party?

Yep. No hazard at all.

Hell, with such little support we should kick her, and all her freeper supporters, out of the party for good! With a ceremony! Eggs and rotten tomatoes on hand! We should call her names, and, by association, 48% of people in the party who bother to vote, the most vile, infuriating, condescending things we can think of. Yes - not only let them know they're not needed - it is important to let them know our contempt! Shout it with me: "Hillary is despicable, her supporters are sheep, and we despise them!"

What could the harm possibly be?

Here's a bonus question: What would Obama have us zealots do?

1. Keep tripping on hate.
2. Attack repeatedly.
3. Attack the last Dem. President too.
4. Snark on his opponent's daughter too.
5. Paint all her supporters as idiots and/or evil
6. Take swipes at Edwards(no longer an option, currently)
7. All of the above

[mrbluto]

1. Just trying to assist.

With what seems to be dedicated behavior.

[greguganus]

2. Thank you for our marching orders. I prefer Zealbot. n/t

[mmonk]

3. Your post could garner better attention by being even handed

instead of a premise only one side has zealots that post negative things.

[Warren Stupidity]

5. Sort of unintentional ironic falsification of its own premise.

[mrbluto]

6. Where do I say that?

Besides - why should I give advice to Clinton supports?

Those worthless gimps!

I'm surprised they can feed and clothe themselves, never mind pull the lever for Hillary!

In fact I think there's something fishy about that.

They're a 48% of the voting democratic electorate we'd be better off without.

[mmonk]

9. The bonus question makes it appear uneven.

I was just offering up advice. I wasn't snarking.

[End Of The Road]

21. I'm among that 48%

and I'm studying for the voting test that the 52% want to impose on me, since I'm obviously too stupid to make choices in my best interest. But what do you expect from an older, uneducated white woman?

[mrbluto]

25. Straighten up and fly right!

There's no test to take - you've already failed!

Maybe, just maybe we'll accept your vote in November. We won't need it, but I don't think we could stop you if you instisted.

You, your experience, any effort you might lend toward winning the general election?

Simply not needed.

Run along now.

[mmonk]

27. Yes, you 48% are nothing to sneeze at.

I hope you see the importance of a unified party going into the fall. We want everyone's vote. A convention fight in my opinion is too risky though. I would think the same if everything was reversed and I was part of 48%.

[mrbluto]

28. Panderer.

Look at you. You're all: "Ooooo, look at me - I think the opinion of 48% of people who voted in the Democratic primary should influence what happens!"

Get some spine!

We need to dump these Hillary Supporting, Democratic party losers!

Once we get rid of all that deadwood then us remaining people will have real unity!

Not all this deliberation and difference of opinion, or any of this time-wasting debate malarky. When has anybody disagreed with you and not turned out to be evil? or stupid, or both?

[mmonk]

30. I'll always pander for a vote. Call me pander bear.

[Vinca]

4. Zealotry works both ways.

If we want to win in November, wouldn't it be wiser to try to promote unification in some way rather than division?

[mrbluto]

7. Look if you want to pander to a mere 48% of voters...

...then you go ahead.

I think they're a millstone that will only hurt our chances in the general election.

[mmonk]

12. Yes and we have to mitigate that millstone.

Your message is right. I think though, maybe ending your post saying for everyone to take Obama's cue of running this thing out positively as we need all the votes we can get in the GE.

[Spider Jerusalem]

8. Helpful hint: she's still lost, and her supporters will have to come to terms with that.

One presumes that most of them won't be voting Republican.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Here's A Hypothetical

What if it became known that Obama and his supporters felt the Clintons and their supporters were a bunch of declasse, inbred, uneducated, and unenlightened group of philistines who were unwanted in the party?


I have seen several posts here suggesting just that...

[mrbluto]

16. Suggesting? Those posters have an insufficent...

...grasp of the facts.

The truth can not merely be said, merely "suggested", NO - it must be TOLD! With conviction!

Hmmmm. Conviction. That gives me an idea of how we should deal with Hillary once Obama wins.

[End Of The Road]

31. Yes! That is the democratic way! nt

[Spider Jerusalem]

17. That's a total absurdity, though.

to begin with, there is no evidence whatever that Obama has any such opinion, and I don't really think that the opinions of a relatively small subset of anonymous people on an internet discussion forum can be said to be representative of the views of the larger body of people who support Obama, either. DU is not the real world, nor are the opinons expressed here by a mere handful of people reflective of broader opinion. If you are incapable of realising this, then I feel sorry for you.

[mrbluto]

20. wait - are you saying Obama wouldn't...

...want us to attack?

What are you? Some sort of Hillary-loving sock puppet?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. Actually, The Sentiment You Claim Not To Exist Outside Of This Bulletin Board Does

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[DS1]

37. She did win Kentucky

:shrug:

[mrbluto]

39. Write it off. It's fly-over country.

Just like Florida and Michigan.

Real candidates don't worry themselves over such minutia.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. And California Is Which Is A Carbon Copy Of Kentuky (Sic)

SONNED

[redqueen]

45. Hell, I've heard Bill Clinton himself imply as much.

Hint: there's assholes everywhere. Ignore them, and focus on issues.

[mrbluto]

11. But do we want their vote?

Perhaps their vote may help - but their opinions are certainly not needed.

I think we should put them all on notice that their continued acceptance in the party is probationary.

It's not worth the taint unless they smarten up and show the proper enthusiasm.

They must understand how flawed their thinking was, or they'll just create more problems.

[Spider Jerusalem]

13. Except I didn't say any of that, now did I?

She's lost. She will probably concede defeat before much longer. When she does, she will surely encourage her supporters to rally behind the Democratic nominee. Everything you're saying is nonsense.

[Marrah_G]

14. Pssssssstttttt-

(I think he is being sarcastic)

:rofl:

[mrbluto]

18. Well you should be saying it!

How can you just sit there and be all wishy-washy and "nuanced" and mealy-mouthed?

Hillary should be in JAIL!

I'm surprised she was allowed to run!

[JoFerret]

29. Extermination would be preferable.

But silenced? Of course. They do not deserve a voice.

[mrbluto]

36. Silence is NOT enough.

But disposal is too costly. Heard that somewhere. Would take a major operation - lots of blow-back.

No.

Contrition is what we want from them.

Contrition. Yes! CONTRITION!

All must show contrition for their errors of thought. And their errant enthusiasm. And all that pesky rational skepticism.

Yes - especially for the pesky skepticism.

[JoFerret]

50. Stomped and composted

for the purity of posterity and for the crime of dissent.

[Marrah_G]

15. K & R

Thank you for making me giggle.

[last1standing]

19. Strange that you left out the rest of that paragraph.

With only three primaries left, Mr Obama is ahead, with 16.7m votes to her 16.2m, a slender edge of 450,000. But that is not the end of the story. It is only fair to take some account of what happened in Florida and Michigan, which were stripped of their delegates for voting too early, but which are electorally vital and whose views ought to carry some weight. In Florida Mrs Clinton won 295,000 more votes than Mr Obama; in Michigan she won 328,000 while he won none because his name was not on the ballot. Add these in, and Mrs Clinton is magically 174,000 ahead.

And Unlike you, I'll provide a link to the story:
http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11412555&CFID=6649018&CFTOKEN=51116822

In other words, your tally includes a state that does not count because it broke the rules of the Democratic party. And yet you call those of us who feel the strength of the party in more important than a single candidate "zealots".

It's deceptive threads like this that make it hard to keep my promise not to insult other DUers. :mad:

[mrbluto]

23. What the hell are you talking about?

Look, I used "zealot magic" to shift half a million from Hilary to Obama.

Don't make me move more - for whatever reason.

I'll do it mister! I'll stop this car right now, turn around and go home!

[high density]

24. If you ain't talking delegates you're speaking the wrong language

Clinton is bringing on the "vilification" on her own, through her own actions and speech. Random, anonymous people on a message board do not generate that.

[mrbluto]

26. But she has duped too many people that should rightfully be Obama supporters!

That's what angers me so much about her. And Edwards too.

Everyone should have cleared the field and let Obama run alone.

They each had a chance - we said they should drop out.

But none of them did so soon enough.

Now they're sorry!

[End Of The Road]

32. I may have to alert the mods about you, bluto

Your intelligence and humor have no place here. (post more! post more!)

[mrbluto]

34. Don't patronize ME! I'm dishing out truth here! Coming at ya!

She should be investigated!

[Zenlitened]

33. Oh, the irony.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6086796

We need a new forum, General Discussion: Griefers, True Believers & Useful Idiots

:rofl:

[izzybeans]

35. .

:ROFL:

[Lilith Velkor]

38. !

:spray: :thumbsup:

[ShortnFiery]

41. Thanks for the info. :-) eom

[End Of The Road]

42. .

Kick to keep this from sinking to page 2.

[Marrah_G]

43. .

[Occam Bandage]

44. Mr. Bluto, are you familiar with the concept of 'hypocrisy?'

[mrbluto]

46. Sure. I've lived in the US.

Under a Bush/Cheney administration.

Are you familiar with the concept of 'Irony?'

[Occam Bandage]

47. I am indeed. Both are applicable.

[mrbluto]

48. Speaking of "Irony"

I'm very jealous of your username.

[End Of The Road]

49. Sorry to see that the mods shut down...

your "investigate Hillary" poll. And just when we were having so much fun.

[cbayer]

51. You are really, really funny.

I mean that in a good way. Not like funny looking or funny smelling. Just funny funny.

:rofl:

[aquarius dawning]

52. that pretty well sums it all up. It's like Stalin versus Trotsky revisited with an American twist

[rucky]

53. This is GD-P and this is what zealots do.

and just like you're not worried about Hillary, I'm not worried about the zealots.

FOOD FIGHT!