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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:45 AM
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Obama to Address Cuban American National Foundation in Miami, Friday morning, May 23
(Local radio in Miami reported this morning that Obama's speech will be carried live on CNN.)



Obama to Address Cuban Group, Marking Shift From G.O.P. Alliances

By Larry Rohter
May 22, 2008


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But attitudes on the other side of the Florida Straits, in Miami, may also be shifting, as demonstrated by this simple fact: on Friday, Senator Barack Obama, a proponent of what he calls “tough, direct presidential diplomacy” with America’s enemies, including Cuba, is scheduled to address the Cuban American National Foundation, the most influential of Miami’s anti-Castro Cuban exile groups.

A decade ago, it would have been difficult to imagine Mr. Obama, or any other liberal Democrat for that matter, being invited to speak in such a setting, or even thinking it was worthwhile to do so. Republicans still campaign for votes among the Cuban-American community, including most recently Senator John McCain who was in Miami earlier this week. And the foundation was closely identified with the Republican Party, and many of its members were openly hostile to liberal Democrats and any approach to the Castro regime, an attitude that dated back to John F. Kennedy and the Bay of Pigs.

But the politics of Miami-Dade County have been changing in recent years. And so, it would appear, has the foundation: Mr. Obama’s address comes during commemorations of Cuban independence week that the group has sponsored for a quarter of a century, and whose main speaker that first year was none other than Ronald Reagan.

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But John McCain may be Misreading the Cuba Vote, as he blew off an invitation to address the Cuban American National Foundation:


May 22, 2008

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McCain got the jump on Barack Obama, who is slated to speak to the Cuban-American National Foundation in Miami on Friday. But while Obama is expected to outline a more nuanced approach to Cuba, McCain's visit to Little Havana and his speech to more conservative Cuban-Americans were rote repeats of the routine every White House hopeful performs in Miami: cafe cubano at the Versailles restaurant followed by equally caffeinated bellowing about his anti-Castro bona fides and the Cuba-policy cowardice of his opponent, in this case Obama. President Franklin Roosevelt "didn't talk with Hitler," McCain argued, attacking Obama's recent suggestion that if elected President he would open a dialogue with communist Cuba's leader, Raul Castro, as well as leaders of other hostile nations such as Iran.

The McCain mambo, not surprisingly, got robust applause at the town hall meeting he addressed. But outside those walls the response was more subdued. If McCain is vulnerable to the charge that his presidency would effectively be a Bush third term, he might want to explore Florida beyond the echo chamber of the older Cuban exile community. He's likely to find a growing number of younger, more moderate Cuban-Americans who no longer believe the 46-year-old U.S. trade embargo against Cuba will topple the Castro regime and who yearn to hear candidates discuss matters besides Cuba, like the alarming lack of accessible health care among Latinos. "Waving the bloody shirt of anti-Castro politics is going to be less effective" in this election, says political analyst Dario Moreno of Florida International University in Miami. "The Cuba issue is losing its saliency."

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More from the Times:


“We are willing to see what he’s got to say,” Sandy Acosta Cox, a press spokeswoman for the group, said when asked about Mr. Obama. “Being an election year, it is natural and fitting that we try to get all three candidates.” Mr. Obama was “the first and only to accept, and we are open and welcoming to that,” she added.

Two forces in particular have contributed to shifts in the way the politics of Cuba now seem to be playing out in South Florida, both of them demographic. One is that the original generation of exiles, which came to the United States beginning in the 1960s, is gradually fading from the scene — replaced by their children, who are Florida-born and raised and, perhaps as a result, are not single-issue voters, but also care about matters ranging from abortion to education.
The second is that the relative weight of the Cuban-American population in Miami-Dade County, and in Florida overall, appears to be decreasing. Thanks to immigration not just from Colombia and Nicaragua, to name two groups whose numbers have grown, but every country in South and Central America and the Caribbean, the non-Cuban percentage of Florida’s Latino population, which does not have the same historic links to Republicans, continues to grow.

As a result, Miami is increasingly a generically Hispanic city rather than a specifically Cuban-American city, a tendency that is likely to be accentuated as more and more of the newer immigrants gain citizenship and the right to vote. Elsewhere in the state, a significant migration of Puerto Ricans, who historically tend to vote Democratic, to the Orlando area has also helped dilute the relative importance of the Cuban-American vote.

Those new dynamics are already on display in some of south Florida’s Congressional races, in which Cuban-American Republican incumbents are facing their first significant opposition in years.

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In particular, Mr. Obama indicated that he favors lifting restrictions both on visits by Cuban-Americans to their families on the island and on the money they send back to those relatives. Those changes, which are supported by many in the Cuban-American community in Florida and New Jersey, “I think would make sense,” he said.
On that point, at least, Mr. Obama has already found some common ground with the foundation. “We have always been in favor of easing those restrictions, which the Bush Administration tightened,” Ms. Acosta Cox said. “The internal opposition on the island needs to be able to receive assistance in as many ways as possible.”




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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:48 AM
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1. any idea what time?
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:11 AM
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4. Can't find a stated time as yet. He has a major rally at 3:30 today, so my guess is around noon.
This has been billed as a major foreign policy speech at the Cuban American National Foundation (CANF).


CNN just now mistakenly said that McCain addressed "this same group" last week "and had a warm reception." That is incorrect! McCain went out to speak to the hard line groups in Little Havana at the Versailles restaurant, which naturally applauded him. He refused to speak to the CANF.

CNN is pathetic on their homework.

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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:55 AM
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6. 12:30 eastern
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:52 AM
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2. talk about playing to a tough room - jeez
I don't want to miss that one
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:59 AM
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8. Obama seems to welcome a tough audience....
...and that is a good attribute to have. He did so well yesterday at the town meeting--especially with the almost hostile questions..
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:01 AM
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3. "America’s enemies, including Cuba"
who puts together this enemies list?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:27 AM
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5. I eagerly anticipate the day when the stranglehold that Miami Mafia has on our politics
and government is broken.

Maybe we can get some more Puerto Ricans to move into the area.

CANF makes me :puke:

But I'm glad Obama's going to speak to them, not that they'll listen.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:56 AM
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7. UPDATE: Speech slated for 12:30 pm EDT
The Illinois Senator plans to reject the “Bush-McCain approach” to diplomacy at 12:30 pm ET address to the Cuban American National Foundation luncheon in Miami.



(Thanks to DU'er jefferson_dem for nailing the time down.)

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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:07 AM
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9. Normalized relations with Cuba would result in
the reform of the island's government and economy within 10 years and substantial improvements within half that time. U.S. policy re Cuba has been a disaster under Republicans and Democrats; if Senator Obama can actually create some sort of detente with the exile community we might finally see some sort of real movement towards real change in Cuba as well as here in the United States!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:14 AM
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10. Oh Fuck...
is he talking to the Democratic Party enemies? He really needs to stop this shit.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:05 AM
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11. Oh boy, a lot at stake here. Does our next president spout "Hugo is a dictator"
or does he know the facts, and speak the truth, that Venezuela's elections put our own to shame for their transparency, and that "Hugo" has been running a scrupulously lawful, beneficial government for ten years--despite every effort of Bushite assassins and dirty rotten CIA plotters in Miami to kill him, to topple Venezuela's DEMOCRACY, and to black-hole the idea that oil profits should be used to benefit the poor.

How will Obama dance this dance? It should be very interesting.

Cuba ain't the issue, friends. The amazing, peaceful, DEMOCRATIC, leftist revolution that has swept South America is the issue. "Hugo" is just the Miami Herald's and the Freepers' name for it all--for that which they loathe, REAL democracy in Latin America.

Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Chile, Paraguay (!), Nicaragua, Guatemala--all gone leftist--and next year, El Salvador. And these countries are NOT OBEYING the United States any more--on Cuba or anything else.

Will Obama even hint at this crushing reality for the anti-Castro (and anti-"Hugo") fascists in Miami--the South American revolution, the most astonishing, bloodless revolution that has ever occurred, anytime, anywhere? I dunno. I think Obama wants peace and cooperation, but does he dare try to speak of those things, even elliptically, to the mini-Bush Cartel in Miami? Is he gonna LEAD or is he gonna FOLLOW?

The Bush Junta is even now trying to utilize its client state, Colombia, to instigate a war with Venezuela and Ecuador (biggest pots of oil in the western hemisphere, both members of OPEC, both with elected LEFTIST governments). Indeed, this could well be the "October Surprise" they have planned for the General Election, rather than Iran. Venezuela, Ecuador and also Bolivia (and possibly Argentina--big oil find there recently; leftist government, allied with the Bolivarians), are the main targets. Things are so tense that the (leftist) president of Brazil, Lula da Silva, very recently proposed a South American mutual defense pact.

When I say a lot is at stake here, I don't mean just our election--and Obama's chances in Florida (which I think would be very good, if they had transparent vote counting). I mean the fate of the western hemisphere. The Bushites are trying very hard to start Oil War II in South America. It's about the oil, of course--but I'm sure they would also love to inflict an Obama administration with another disastrous quagmire, close to home. The Bushites won't--and can't--win it. But they might, a) chip off a couple of mini fascist states, where the oil is, with fascist secessionist movements in the state of Zulia, in Venezuela, and the eastern provinces of Bolivia (both Bushite war schemes are in progress), and b) permanently destroy U.S. relations with most of South America.

In case you hadn't noticed, this is going to be South America's century. They are well on their way to forming a South American "Common Market." If Bushite/U.S. interference continues, or if a Democratic administration colludes with the Bush Cartel in the future, it's all over for us in South America (and possibly also Central America). Our name will be mud, as it has become everywhere else in the world.

What to listen for in his speech:

Venezuela

I will certainly understand Obama's caution on this subject. He is walking into a minefield. (Venezuelan fascists have migrated to south Florida and are allied with the anti-Castroites.) If he identifies Venezuela as an "enemy," we will know just how hemmed in he is. And if he avoids doing that, we will know that he feels he has some flexibility to create a SANE, mutually beneficial, peaceful, cooperative policy with our DEMOCRATIC neighbors in this hemisphere.

Colombia

Another keystone issue may be the Colombian "free deal" that Donald Rumsfeld is so interested in*. Colombia has one of the worst human rights records on the planet. In Colombia, they chainsaw union leaders, while alive, and throw their body parts into mass graves. The Uribe government and its military and rightwing paramilitary death squads (on whom the Bushites have larded $5.5 BILLION in military aid) have slaughtered thousands of innocent people--community organizers, small peasant farmers, political leftists, human rights workers and journalists. They are also closely tied to major drug/weapons traffic. That's why the Bushites love Colombia! They can get behind torture and mass murder and other crime. It's their signature. Obama has said that he opposes the Colombian "free trade" deal. Look for how much he opposes it. Does he propose TRUSTING the Colombian government to mend its ways? Their promise that they won't kill any more union leaders? Or does he say, back to the drawing board on "free trade" in general--since U.S.-dominated "free trade" has been rejected by country after country in South America. There is only one way to have U.S.-dominated "free trade," and that is by violent force.

"Terrorism" in South America

The true "terrorists" in South America are the Colombian fascists and the Bushites. Does Obama buy into the Bushite FUCKING LIE that the democratic, leftist governments that control the oil (Venezuela, Ecuador) are "terrorist-lovers"? I don't think Obama does, but his wording may indicate who he feels he must pander to, to prevent another stolen election. There is a long story to this one, which I won't go into here. Suffice it to say that the Bushite lies about Venezuela and Ecuador--and their echo in the corporate news monopolies--are on a par with their lies about Iraq WMDs, and have the same goal. War for oil. The Miami Herald is one of the worst purveyors of these lies. Will Obama be playing to the Miami Herald--or will he be LEADING the people of Florida and the people of the United States toward truthful, just, fair, respectful, progressive, democratic policy in South America, for the mutual benefit of all of us, north and south?

"War on drugs."

Another minefield. Billions and billions of our tax dollars in this police state/military boondoggle--the corrupt, failed, murderous "war on drugs" that is PAYING FOR the slaughter of the innocents in Colombia. What the Bushites have used it for is to promote fascism and militarism within Latin American societies, and to plot war against social movements and leftist democracies. It has become merely the tool of global corporate predators--Exxon Mobil & brethren. Does Obama propose MORE boodle for the fascists and militarists? Or will he be LEADING us toward a SANE policy based on social justice, human rights and REAL police work, where it is necessary, to address REAL--not phantom--dangers?

That's all for now. I will be listening to Obama's speech with both ears.

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"The Smart Way to Beat Tyrants Like Chávez," by Donald Rumsfeld, 12/1/07
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113001800.html
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:29 PM
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18. Huh?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:44 PM
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20. Take some time and inform yourself on the subjects Peace Patriot discussed.
It's very clear to people who keep up.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:43 PM
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19. Jorge Mas Santos has been telling him what his position is going to be!
Hope he can survive the opening.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:11 AM
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12. Is there a link?
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:47 AM
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13. Looking for one now..... am hearing it's starting about 1 pm n/t
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:50 AM
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14. Great. Hopefully he can lessen the repugs' hold on the Cuban community.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 11:50 AM by anonymous171
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:54 AM
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15. Link at cnn.com now. Right side top of page under video links.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 12:04 PM by seafan
Program getting started now with first speakers.


UGH. Marco Rubio, receiving some brief award, is up spouting his hard line rhetoric now. Go away, Rubio.

Those people didn't come there to see you.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:11 PM
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16. Awaiting beginning of program. Speaker said there is a short break right now.
Link at cnn.com. Video link at top right of page, "Obama campaigns in Miami"
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:13 PM
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17. Obama on stage NOW. n/t
Edited on Fri May-23-08 12:15 PM by seafan
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:59 PM
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21. Everyone catch that standing ovation?
Wow. He's good.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:45 PM
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22. Obama urges direct diplomacy with Cuba, Latin America
<snip>

"In a bold and politically risky move, Democratic Sen. Barack Obama called for ''direct diplomacy'' with communist Cuba when he addressed a prominent Cuban-American organization Friday in a bid to woo a Republican-leaning constituency that is one of the keys to presidential victory in the state.

In a lunchtime speech to the Cuban American National Foundation in downtown Miami, Obama offered a new Cuban policy approach to an audience accustomed to presidential candidates coming to show solidarity but not to challenge the long-standing isolation of the island's dictatorship.

"Now I know what the easy thing is to do for American politicians . . . every four years, they come down to Miami, they talk tough, they go back to Washington, and nothing changes in Cuba,'' said Obama, who was greeted by a scattered chanting of "Yes We Can, Yes we Can" as he took the podium. "After eight years of the disastrous policies of George Bush, it is time, I believe, to pursue direct diplomacy, with friend and foe alike, without preconditions."

He repeated previous statements that if elected president, he would immediately lift the limits on Cuban Americans who want to travel to Cuba or send remittances to family on the island. And he spoke about his often-criticized willingness to meet with Cuban leader Raúl Castro.

"There will be careful preparation. We will set a clear agenda," Obama said. "And as president, I would be willing to lead that diplomacy at a time and place of my choosing, but only when we have an opportunity to advance the interests of the United States, and to advance the cause of freedom for the Cuban people."

The luncheon, a celebration of Cuban Independence Day, drew nearly 900 people to a ballroom at the Intercontinental Hotel.

Obama's speech was warmly received and he was frequently interrupted by applause."

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