Busloads of Clinton Supporters Plan to 'Swarm' DNC Meeting (May 31)

[oldpol]

So, if I have this right, here are the potential remaining battles in the 2008 Democratic Primary process: Primaries in South Dakota, Montana, and Puerto Rico. A meeting of the DNC Rules and By-Laws Committee to determine how the Democrats will continue to pretend to "punish" Florida and Michigan for moving their primary without actually enforcing any rules or handing down any penalties. Then, possibly, a superdelegate convention where uncommitted superdelegates will be forced at gunpoint to make a decision they could have plausibly made months ago. And finally, a full tilt bloodbath at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, which will prepare America for when John McCain is named King of America and Her United Anbar Provinces, propels us via time machine to the year 2013, and then explains how our Chinese overlords have forced us into a largely "Thunderdome-based" economy.

Speaking to the voters of the Sunshine State yesterday, Senator Hillary Clinton invoked the 2000 Recount Fiasco and spoke of the lessons learned. Now, for me, the lessons mainly are: "Do not allow the fate of our democracy to rest on David Boies' shoulders," but for Clinton, it's different:

"We believe the popular vote is the truest expression of your will...We believe it today just as we believed it back in 2000 when right here in Florida, you learned the hard way what happens when your votes aren't counted, and the candidate with fewer votes is declared the winner. The lesson of 2000 here in Florida is crystal clear. If any votes aren't counted, the will of the people isn't realized and our democracy is diminished. That's what I've always believed."
But that's not the only lesson she's learned from Florida:

The next Democratic donnybrook will be in a Washington ballroom.

Busloads of Hillary Clinton supporters will swarm a meeting next week at a D.C. Marriott, where Democratic Party elders hope to forge a compromise over Florida and Michigan's now-voided convention delegates.

"We really don't know what to expect, but we do know that the Clinton people are very organized," said a senior Democratic National Committee source.


Tactically, this takes a page right from the Karl Rove Recount 2000 playbook: send a mob of angry villagers to turn a relatively genteel process into a shrill folderol. Nevertheless, while the stage is set for roving gangs of superfluous supporters to disrupt the DNC proceedings, this will still be a model of decorum and tranquility compared to Clinton's other bizarre voter-rights reference, Zimbabwe. Though it should be noted that Zimbabwe's electoral strife would have been magnified one hundred-fold if it had featured Howard Wolfson conference calls.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/22/clinton-supporters-plan-t_n_103100.html

[papau]

1. Swarm a meeting like Move-on busing folks to caucuses for Obama?

[Occam Bandage]

3. So Clinton supporters are morally opposed to GOTV? How Democratic.

Might explain why y'all lost, too.

[democrattotheend]

22. Move-On had not even endorsed him back then

They did not endorse him until after Edwards dropped out.

[yourguide]

26. Got a link on that? Any proof? nope.

[rurallib]

29. Please back up this statement with some proof?

unfounded accusations are easy to make.

[Debi]

40. Link please.....

I see Clinton losing a 'working class white' state like Iowa still smarts...

[roguevalley]

50. let me see ... swarming meetings and gatherings about vote counts ,,,

where have I heard that before? Chad! Chad! Pick up the white courtesy phone!

[roguevalley]

51. I hope they bring their fucking pots and pans, dorks.

[OzarkDem]

53. Women Supporting Clinton don't count, I suppose

Some apparently think we're second class citizens.

[Bicoastal]

55. Women Supporting Obama are idiots, I suppose.

Some apparently think my mother and grandmother are Stepford Wives.

[OzarkDem]

57. They need to find another party

In all my years as an active Dem, I've never seen a group of so-called Democrats viciously attack fellow Dems as Obama supporters do. Even Reagan Democrats are more civil and intelligent.

[ellacott]

58. I've seen it also with Hillary supporters

It's funny that you all don't see this.

[Kittycat]

60. Please, continue to play the victin, while insulting us

:eyes: More of the same.

[smiley_glad_hands]

64. Where have you been bizzarro world.

Hill is the only one using the rove playbook.

[smiley_glad_hands]

63. Oh please come off it already. eom

[Occam Bandage]

2. Pack of bullies.

[cliffordu]

43. Pack of sexist bullies.

[Avalux]

4. This is an embarrassment. The GOP is laughing their collective ass off.

"the Clinton people are very organized". Would be the first time of the campaign if it's true.

[Occam Bandage]

31. Nah. I bet they're flattered. They used that tactic in 2000, after all.

[madfloridian]

5. Video of the last protest....lots of screaming and yelling. Spontaneous manufactured event.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2111

From Countdown.

[Occam Bandage]

8. Funny how she invokes Zimbabwe, then tries to turn our elections into bullying scream-offs.

[janx]

14. I wasn't aware that this happened! n/t

[undeterred]

6. Sounds like when the GOP swarmed Florida in 2000

and demanded they stop counting the votes. Not one of Democracy's finest moments.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

10. One major difference there.

And I'll let you figure that one out for yourself.
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PS: It's right in your post! Shh!

[undeterred]

15. Bullying is bullying no matter who does it

and following the law is what serves Democracy best.

[Connie_Corleone]

7. Night of the Living Dead.

[NoodleyAppendage]

9. Hillary Supporters are Hysterical, Easily Led, and Impressionable...hmm...that sounds like Repukes.

J

[Tom Rinaldo]

11. I have a problem with this tactic

I feel it can be employed fairly at a local level, when town residents turn out in numbers to let their elected representatives know where they stand and how strongly they feel. But it is a farce at the national level. There is no way that the number of people who can fill any one room can claim to represent the popular national will, it only shows who chartered buses and which ones got there first.

It is our Party so all sides in it have a right and a need to witness the decision making process. I trust that right has been secured and the actions that meeting takes will be documented so that those who participate in it can be held accountable for their actions. That is what our Democratic process demands, not anything that potentially smacks of attempted strong arm intimidation. If Democrats with strong feelings about what happens at that meeting wish to lobby their reprentatives in advance of that meeting, that to me is appropriate.

[nxylas]

12. I didn't realise Hillary actually *had* a busload of supporters

Must be a very shor...nah, better not go there.

[TexasObserver]

47. They think they're going to Canada to buy prescription drugs!

[Evergreen Emerald]

62. You fail to realize that DU is not real life. In REAL life, she has 1/2

of the democratic votes.

[conspirator]

67. Yeah. Because a lot of Clinton voters are morans and don't have IQ to post in DU n/t

[Evergreen Emerald]

68. LOL

you crack me up. Clinton supporters were pushed out of here by thugs who would not know their asses from a whole in the ground.

[billyoc]

13. "the Clinton people are very organized"

Yes, I can see that they are.



Swarm, my ass. :rofl:

[oldpol]

16. is that a real photo!!

omg

[billyoc]

18. That is the unbridled rage of the Clinton campaign in all it's fury.

Fear It.








:rofl:

[Yael]

20. That was the New York Mega Protest

Of about 30 people.

[SwampG8r]

28. why are they caged?

im not objecting mind you
people this mentally challenged should be supervised
but were they tagging them for tracking or what?

[JackORoses]

19. things got even more exciting when Gene Frinkle showed up...

[oldpol]

21. lmao, more cowbell!

n/t

[billyoc]

37. More cowbell!

:rofl:

[nxylas]

49. Why is one of them holding a placard...

...reading "hate is not a family value"? That's a bumper sticker slogan which is usually directed at right-wing "Christian" hypocrites. I don't see the connection with the actual subject of the protest. You might as well have a sign saying "keep your laws off my body" or "save the spotted owl".

[AtomicKitten]

33. or this

[gkhouston]

34. where are their porta-potties? Isn't that a standard part of a "meaningful" protest?

:evilgrin:

[billyoc]

38. No, that would more accurately represent the Clinton "movement".

:hi:

[roguevalley]

54. DUzy!

[madfloridian]

17. More video from MSNBC about the April rally...yelling and screaming

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2109

Watch Corinne Brown. Yes, she is a congresswoman, yes, she is a Democrat. She is the one screaming and waving her arms. She is the one who just about daily calls on Dean to resign.

[hendo]

25. if only we could all break the rules without consequence n/t

[SoCalDem]

44. Watch for THESE two desperados

[madfloridian]

66. LOL

:hi:

They look so tough.

[eleny]

23. We will know by the number of porta potties that get delivered...

How many they expect to show up.

[BlooInBloo]

24. Is this the same as that lying astroturf group that was found out yesterday?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6044323

[LTR]

27. 2000: Brooks Brothers Riot; 2008: Blue Hair Riot

All crybabies trying to fudge the rules.

[Tinksrival]

30. OMG!

Are they armed????!!!!

[gkhouston]

36. Yeah, that lady in the front might have an assault rifle hidden in her walker. n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

41. You don't want to fuck with senile delinquents.

[anonymous171]

32. Counter-protests anyone?

[dana_b]

61. how about calm, well thought out letters to the DNC??

i think that would help Obama more than anything else. Going there and yelling at her supporters, banging pots and pans, etc. would just make the Obama supporters look like idiots (like SOME Hillary supporters). He's a fairly calm, very rational man who needs that kind of support.

[Dr Fate]

35. It will probably be a lot like Kramer's "J. Peterman Reality Tour" Bus.

"No- *I'm* the *real* nominee!"

Hopefully they will have Milky-way bars to pass out to the passengers on the way to the land-fill.

[Cant trust em]

39. Can you earn a DUzy for a response; or is it just OPs?

:spray:

[Dr Fate]

65. Glad you likey. I kill me. n/t

n/t

[SoCalDem]

42. Move the meeting to another location and swear all to secrecy

Let the "mob" have their hissyfit where no metting is taking place:)

[stillcool]

45. How much are they paying?

[reflection]

46. According to good old Wiki

Animals which "swarm" are:

1) Ants
2) Birds
3) Eels
4) Grasshoppers
5) Honey bees
6) Termites

So which ones are these HRC supporters emulating? I'll go with 3 or 6, since one is slimy and the other destructive.

[quiet.american]

48. Lovely. Now Clinton is doing the brownshirt thing. Just lovely. nt

[OzarkDem]

52. Great idea!

Democracy and winning the General Election are definitely things worth fighting for!

[TahitiNut]

56. Every one of those buses will run off the road on the way to D.C. ....

... due to EVERY one of the passengers REFUSING to sit in the back and crowding to the front.

:evilgrin:

[jenmito]

59. Just like they did yesterday, pretending to be non-partisan, by protesting outside a fundraiser for

Obama: "The first sign of the gathering outside the hotel was about a dozen protesters carrying homemade signs that read "Stop blocking our vote." They want Obama to intervene with the Democratic party over its decision to not count Florida's delegates to the national nominating convention. The national party took away the delegates because the state held it's primary before Feb. 5.

"We want Sen. Obama to count our vote," said Vanessa Alikahn, of Fort Lauderdale, and one of the organizers. "It's not about being for Hillary or for McCain or for Obama. It's about our constitutional right to have our votes counted."

It's unclear how nonpartisan the group was. Their intention to protest was first posted on Hillary Clinton's campaign Web site. The campaign took down the post shortly after a reporter called to ask about it."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/sfl-0522obama,0,3851610.story?track=rss