Having Hillary on the ticket would be a terrible idea

[PlanetBev]

I believe Obama would get two for the price of one. Bill and Hillary would steamroll him and he would not be thought of as being his own man.

Plus, he doesn't need their steamer-trunk full of baggage. I'm sure he's got his own to contend with.

[LisaM]

1. Totally disagree.

How many millions of people have voted for her, exactly?

[John Q. Citizen]

5. Not one single person has voted for Clinton to be VP. So the answer would be zero!

[LSparkle]

2. I agree -- he's already been tagged as "inexperienced" ...

this would make him appear not to be his own man. His campaign
has been all about CHANGE and with her on the ticket, it'd be
politics as usual.

[PATRICK]

8. Sums up the big

argument for and against with the weight of negativity still pushing away the VP possiblity. Negativity in the base and in HRC herself that makes the offer no automatic settlement or healing. Negativity that reminds one of her detriment to the ticket as a negative anchor in the general election. She holds her base hostage and neither the party nor the picture in the general election gains a single thing in the prospect.

As long as it is cast in belligerent terms- ans she is STILL totally arguing for the no. 1 spot- there is no question of bargaining "unity" to make her go away by keeping this actual disunity alive and well. At this point one could as easily state that her VP selection simply carries over the great divide into the WH. So far, on her own terms, it is a no go. In the general election, even the appearance of a cemented over party does not erase her high negatives.

The speculation therefore is extremely untimely, problematic until and by the manner of her conceding.
She is a problem much more than a candidate at present.

[BlooInBloo]

3. Thankfully it won't happen.

[Cha]

4. hilary lost number one so the only way the bilarys and the

dlc can grab on to power is if hilary extorts her way to vp. But, it ain't gonna happen..bring on the fucking civil %^&*$

[JaneQPublic]

6. The strongest case against VP HIllary: all the GOP talking heads are for her. (nt)

[PlanetBev]

7. Also....

With Hillary on the ticket, those thundering herds of Republicans who are just dying to vote against her would still get their wish. Obama is feared by the Pukes, not hated. I think that Hillary might have negative coattails and might affect down ticket candidates. We definately need to increase our margins in the House and Senate and also state houses.

[Efilroft Sul]

16. The hate factor is overrated in a sense.

Republicans who already hate Hillary Clinton made up their minds long ago to hate her before most of DU did. Whether Clinton is #1 or #2 on the ticket doesn't really matter because the Republican hate for her has always been there. It's built in, like the reflex to breathe.

For what it's worth, Obama could pick Jesus Christ as his running mate and the Republicans would spray both guys with the vilest bile ever. If Obama isn't hated by the Republican Noise Machine now, he soon will be.

What the Obama crowd should concern itself with is not worrying about who hates Hillary Clinton, but focus on how their candidate can win the states she carried. There are lots of people in plenty of states for Obama to still win over. These states pose a challenge for Obama, but at the same time, they represent an opportunity for him to hammer home the specifics about what positive change can be done in his administration.

Again, positive change. Because most of the change I've seen (at least online) is how a large number of liberals have transformed themselves into creatures, not unlike talk radio listeners, who froth at the mouth every time Hillary Clinton's name is mentioned. Many good people have stared into the abyss, and the abyss has stared back into them. Sure, you might consider Hillary Clinton a bad candidate or bad for the Democratic Party, but she's a far cry from the jackals running the show for the last eight years. This demonization of Clinton is wrong, it's absurd, and it's beneath what is progressive.

When the time comes in November, I'm pulling the lever for the person with the (D) after his or her name. The stakes are just too high not to.

[truebrit71]

9. Completely agree.

He would have to CONSTANTLY keep HRC and her husband in check, and judging by her comments on the campaign trail that would be a fulltime job.

[PlanetBev]

10. That said...

I think she would make a great Supreme Court Justice, or Senate Majority Whip...Harry Reid is as useless as a tit on a bull.

[grassfed]

11. A Disloyal, Dishonest, Scheming, Vindictive, Vulgar Dirty Trickster in the office next door?

First AA Pres to be half a Pres in order to console the vicious, spiteful, lying POS white wife of ex Pres. She has shown the world who she is.

[PlanetBev]

12. Ooow, Grassfed...

Tell us how you really feel...:evilgrin:

[grassfed]

13. and that's the PG version

[ladjf]

14. America needs to end the era of the Clintons. They have

become the Snopes family of Washington.

[grassfed]

15. "What a story! Everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." Margo Channing

[ccharles000]

17. I think an Obama/Hillary ticket is great.