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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:08 PM
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Quinnipiac Has Obama Behind McCain in PA, OH... but Clinton leads in those states.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 01:09 PM by papau
5/22/08 http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/

Here is how the matchups would go:

* Hillary Clinton - 310
* John McCain - 211

* Barack Obama - 248
* John McCain - 290

These are the polls updated today.
State......... #EV ... Barack Obama.... John McCain
California.... 55.... 54.0 .......... 37.0
Florida ...... 27 ... 41.0 .......... 45.0
Pennsylvania 21 ... 46.0 .......... 40.0
Ohio......... 20 ... 40.0 .......... 44.0
Virginia..... 13 ... 49.0 .......... 42.0

State........ #EV ... Hillary Clinton ... John McCain
California .... 55 .... 51.0 .......... 39.0
Florida ..... 27 .... 48.0 .......... 41.0
Pennsylvania 21 .... 50.0 .......... 37.0
Ohio.......... 20 .... 48.0 .......... 41.0
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Max_powers94 Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:09 PM
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1. Quinnipiac is a bad poll
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:10 PM
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3. Must be, right?
I mean the results are NOT to be believed!
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Max_powers94 Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:11 PM
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7. NOT to be believed!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:12 PM
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9. Definitely NOT!!! Can't be true!
They are usually pretty good at PA polls, though.

Check out their 04 GE stuff.




Anywho....

Welcome to DU

:hi:
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Max_powers94 Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:14 PM
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12. As soon as Hillary get out those number will change
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:14 PM
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14. But which way?
:shrug:
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Max_powers94 Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:17 PM
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21. U know the way
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:09 PM
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2. Perez Hilton would probably win too.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:10 PM
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4. If you are more electable than the other candidate...
Aren't you supposed to win these states?

The supposedly "more electable" candidate already has us behind the 8-ball.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:12 PM
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11. So if proportional delegation is so important, can you people drop your "popular vote" argument?
After all, Obama won OUR map of pledged delegates fair and square.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:14 PM
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13. NJ probably thinks that our system is like the republican system he's so used to.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 01:14 PM by anonymous171
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:10 PM
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5. She has to get past Obama in delegate count for that to matter.
she can't and, therefore, it doesn't
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:10 PM
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6. And you bring this up....why???
Hillary doesn't have my interests at heart. She cares only for her own glorification. Polls 6 months out for the GE mean nothing.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:12 PM
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10. But, but, but...
Here it is MAY already!!!

Polls, polls, polls - yet he's beating her 2 out of three - without even cheating!

:shrug:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:11 PM
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8. kick the Hillary supporters to the curb - they'll crawl back - they've no where to go
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:15 PM
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16. This isn't about YOU. This is about US. Democrats. Americans.
Yeesh.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:18 PM
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22. Nowhere to go? Uh, in November they are going to their polling booths.....but, like the song goes..
....have a good time, but remember, that November, isn't very far.......
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:14 PM
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15. You mean FL and OH, not PA and OH, right?
:hi:
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:15 PM
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17. ummm...Pennsylvania 21 ... (BO) 46.0 .......... (McSame) 40.0
better correct teh OP
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:15 PM
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18. He is up in PA
Right there in your post where you say he is behind in PA! Obama 46 - McCain 40.

Amazing.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:15 PM
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19. These polls are meaningless until our nominee, Barack Obama, can focus on campaigning for the GE.
Which is just another reason Clinton should just drop out now - she's only hurting the Dems' chances by staying in.
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uberllama42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:16 PM
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20. Maybe I'm reading it wrong
But it seems to me that the numbers you posted have Barack Obama ahead of McCain in PA.

But hey, WTF do I know?
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:29 PM
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31. FLA is the new PA
I know it is hard to keep up with all the recent changes.
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uberllama42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:34 PM
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32. Does that mean that we in PA will have to retire?
Do we get their electoral votes? They have four more than we do.

How about their weather? Does Ed Rendell still get to be governor? I really hope we don't get stuck with Disney land.

I hope a Clinton surrogate can come and explain what the new rules are. Of course, they're subject to change at any time, so I guess it's moot.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:20 PM
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23. And in combined poll of polls Clinton is lower than she was when she
started the campaign.

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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:20 PM
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24. Once REALITY catches up with these polls, they will change
It's getting really stupid to continue to toss out polls (either pro Obama or pro Clinton) based on a hypothetical that will never happen!

Obama is our nominee and the sooner the MSM plays out that truth, the sooner the polls will reflect John Q. voters understanding of same.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:22 PM
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25. I don't buy it. Anyone who would vote for Hillary, and yet not vote for the Democratic nominee
in 2008 is either lying or a complete idiot, and has no idea what issues they are voting on

As far as the Supreme Court, Jobs, Healthcare, Social Security, the Iraq War, etc. Both Democrats have it over mccain on the issues

If these polls are to be believed, then one is led to the conclusion that either people don't care about the issues or the polls are wrong


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:23 PM
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26. If Hillary supporters prefer McInsane to Obama, then Hillary = McInsane
isnt that correct?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:24 PM
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28. Only in some dark, dank corners of the InterTubes.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:19 PM
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35. Or they don't don't think clearly /nt
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:24 PM
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27. Sorry, but without margin of error information as well as historical info, this is meaningless
I will grant you that this *snapshot* looks better for HRC than for Obama> However, considering that in both PA and FL, McCain's lead is so small as to be close to or within the margin of error, it's actually pretty good news for Obama that he's doing so well when he's had to run against 2 candidates--especially considering all this 'Obama wants to disenfranchise us' crap, to be down by only 4 points in Florida? I guess that tells us something about how much smarter Florida voters are than some of HRC's supporters give them credit for being.

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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:25 PM
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29. i saw other polls has obama on top
so pay no attention
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:27 PM
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30. Great, but she is not the presumptive nominee.
So lets get to work on turning those numbers around for our candidate!
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:35 PM
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33. Yesterday's Quinnipiac had Obama up 6 in PA
Was there a new one today?
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:38 PM
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34. Good for her,
maybe she can have a shadow election since she's not going to be the nominee, and she can be the President of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Kentucky. :)

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