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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:23 PM
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She's been playing the assassination card for a while now.
After West Virginia, and perhaps well before that, she and her supporters were on cable news REPEATEDLY saying that "something could happen" between now and the convention.

I thought it was ugly at the time. Obviously it was so vague that it could be interpreted any number of ways.

Not anymore.

Now there's a clear pattern.

She must drop out.

Outrageous doesn't even begin to cover it.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:24 PM
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1. She has very literally lost it... Not fit to be a candidate never mind be President! n/t
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Franks Wild Years Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:25 PM
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4. If she were from any other major Western nation...
...she would have been dismissed as a serious candidate long ago. I'm very sorry, but that is the truth. She simply would not be taken seriously anywhere else.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:33 PM
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12. And neither would a thug like George W. Bush...
but there you have it. Many Americans share a serious deficit when it comes to judging character and potential.
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:24 PM
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2. THe problem is now it has come out of her mouth. With what has come up with Ted
the timing of this statement is distasteful. Second, bringing up the word in relation to Obama is like planting a seed into the mind of some crazy nut out there.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:25 PM
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3. your baldfaced lie will go over well here
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:30 PM
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10. Please, please do not keep defending her...this is not a lie...watch
video..
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:25 PM
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5. People joke about Obama needing to check his food if Hillary was his VP
I guess its not really a joke
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:26 PM
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6. This is fucking ridiculous
you guys are just despicable.

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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:27 PM
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8. No, its the candidate that you are supporting that is ridiculous.. n/t
Edited on Fri May-23-08 03:27 PM by LakeSamish706
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:27 PM
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9. Oh, but the presidential candidate raising the issue is just fine?
You have GOT to be kidding.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:30 PM
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11. So why is Hillary pushing for 100%, instead of the 50% required by the rules?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:37 PM
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14. If you found out she really said this would you still supporter her??
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:33 PM
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29. I know what she said!
It was a historically accurate observation. She was saying RFK was still in the race as of June.

Anything else is in the fevered imagination of you haters. It's a new low for you guys.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:48 PM
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23. She could have made the same point any number of ways.
She should not be discussing assassination as a reason to be continuing this race. There are just so many more and better ways of getting the same point across. She's not stupid, and that's why she is wrong.
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Mike L Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:27 PM
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7. U R PARANOID.
Big scandals happen (even bigger than Wright, Rezko and Ayers).
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:39 PM
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15. Reasonable enough response before today.
Now? Uh uh. It's a pattern.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:33 PM
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13. Some one mentioned it at an early campaign stop
It was around the same time that Hillary mangled the MLK/LBJ comparison. I was surprised that it got no media coverage.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:42 PM
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16. Letter from a dkos member to Sen. Ted Kennedy (written almost 2 weeks ago):
Dear Senator Kennedy:

I am mystified by at least two recent cases in which Senator Clinton has invoked your brother's 1968 California victory as an example of how things can change in a presidential election. While my mind jumps to the most sickening possible interpretation, I can't know what is in Senator Clinton's heart.

Please takes steps -- either public or private -- to ask Senator Clinton to stop engaging in what, at the very least, amounts to exploitation of your brother's memory. Despite the cryptic nature of what she's saying, there's something chilling about her words.

As a college student, I used to keep a couple of long passages from your brother's 1968 speeches taped to the wall of my room, near my desk. They inspired me and made me believe in the potential of our country in a way that I have not experienced anew since this 2008 campaign.

Despite the history and hoopla of this moment, your brother and his words remain an inspiration -- even to those of us whose lifetimes never overlapped with his. Let's not let anybody cheapen that. You and your family -- both the Kennedys who have endorsed Senator Obama and those who have endorsed Senator Clinton -- are in a unique position to insist that Senator Clinton sift through history to find some different way of making whatever point it is she's trying to make.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

David

----

Also, these were Clinton's comments made on 4/25 in WV:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24505208#24505208

The full context quote:
"But I also think it's still early, I mean everybody is so focused on where we are right now, I, I, guess I remember in June of '92 that's when Bill really wrapped up the nomination, the middle of June after the California primary. Um, You know, I remember very well what happened in the California primary in 1968 as Sen. Kennedy won that primary. I mean, we traditionally have gone longer and there isn't any problem in closing ranks..."
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:44 PM
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20. Yes ! This is the confirmation I've been looking for. THANK YOU !
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:42 PM
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17. I've suspected for a long time
that she was staying in in the hopes that he would be murdered. If she drops out and he's killed, she doesn't automatically get the nom. But if she's still in .... she cries big crocodile tears and writes her acceptance speech. And that's that.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:42 PM
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18. So what you are saying is that RFK was never assassinated? Or that nothing can happen ....
...to any candidate running for office?

How many times have we talked about no candidate dropping out before the convention? Even the Republican candidates have "suspended" their campaigns instead of "dropping out". Who knows what could happen to a presumptive nominee? Think, people.

Go back to counting super delegates. You are on more solid ground there. Uh, whatever.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:51 PM
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27. I am aware that RFK was assassinated
That's no reason for Clinton to mention it as a reason to stay in the race. Stupidity is the kindest explanation.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:43 PM
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19. I am begiining to think she is a psychopath
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:44 PM
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21. What exactly is the assassination card?
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:48 PM
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22. Well . . .
. . . I got in trouble for saying this before, but I think that it has to do with suggestion.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:50 PM
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24. You think Clinton is suggesting someone should assassinate Obama?
No wonder you got in trouble.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:45 PM
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25. Hardball question for Hillary
Can anyone tell us reasons why a political candidate would invoke assassination as a reason to continue running in a race which there is no mathematical way of winning possible?
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:46 PM
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26. K&R
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:51 PM
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28. Could it have been anymore clearer in recent weeks.....
Edited on Fri May-23-08 04:59 PM by nomaco-10
with her "anything can happen" remarks and then following them up with "look at what happened in 1968". It wasn't terribly subtle, but this time she just put it out there. It's not like the 1980 Kennedy/Carter campaign and her husband's '92 bid weren't two good enough analogies, she has specifically referenced 1968 more than once.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:02 PM
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30. One of surrogates also made an assasination reference in January
Hillary adopted the line about MLK/LBJ and mangled that also. I was very surprised that this part didn't get more coverage:

"Today, in Dover, Francine Torge, a former John Edwards supporter, said this while introducing Mrs. Clinton: "Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated. And Lyndon Baines Johnson was the one who actually" passed the civil rights legislation."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/08/clinton-surrogate-makes-c_n_80449.html
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