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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:54 PM
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Hillary in APRIL : "I Remember Well What Happened To Senator Kennedy in 1968.."
Edited on Fri May-23-08 03:56 PM by K Gardner
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24505208#24505208

"But I also think it's still early, I mean everybody is so focused on where we are right now, I, I, guess I remember in June of '92 that's when Bill really wrapped up the nomination, the middle of June after the California primary. Um, You know, I remember very well what happened in the California primary in 1968 as Sen. Kennedy won that primary.

See the letter written to Ted Kennedy about this, posted here at DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6092682&mesg_id=6093148

Also, the constant refrain from her surrogates on TV: "ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN." The most egregious incident of this on the infamous Larry King Episode where Clinton Surrogate, the ex-ABC News Anchor, said: "White people won't vote for a black man." Then went on to invoke "anything can happen".. several times to the astonishment of the rest of the panel.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:57 PM
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Kicking
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:57 PM
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1. I remember that day as well. I think HRC has been very brave, considering n/t
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:58 PM
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3. You're disgusting.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:00 PM
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7. History isn't pretty, either. Sorry if you have a problem w/it. It ain't personal n/t
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:00 PM
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6. Yeah, she's brave, all right...
and just being honest, as well, right? :puke:
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:02 PM
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11. I thought children gave up magical thinking ... adults accept possible consequences n/t
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:07 PM
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15. You have perfected the Hillaric Non-Sequitur...
Congratulations!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:05 PM
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25. But where's the resume?
And the self-congratulations?

:shrug:
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:28 PM
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28. At the bottom of a box..
of Cracker Jack!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:30 PM
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24. Was there a race riot that day too?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:19 PM
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26. It's the 'catastrophic event' we've all been...
hoping for. I agree. She is very brave to hope for such a thing as a means of delivering the nomination to her.
Clinton campaign on ropes
BY JOHN GUERRIERO

Published: May 08. 2008 6:00AM
Murray, who has supported Bill and Hillary Clinton since 1991, said these are tough times for people like him who are in the Clinton camp but want to unify the party.

"The sense is, absent some catastrophic event that would take place in this campaign, it's going to be very difficult to see a path to victory for Hillary given what happened" Tuesday, Murray said.
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/NEWS02/805080437



Sun May 11, 2008

Analysis: Could Clinton land the VP nomination?

Several Clinton associates say there is still a ray of hope among some in her campaign: that a "catastrophic" revelation about Obama might make it possible for her to win the presidential nomination.
But barring that, Hillary and Bill Clinton recognize that her candidacy is being abandoned and rejected by superdelegates whom she once expected to win over and that, even if she were to win the popular vote in combined primary states, she will almost certainly be denied the nomination.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/10/bernstein.clinton/index.html?section=cnn_latest


CBSNews.com Reports: N.Y. Senator Now Faces Nearly Impossible Odds To Capturing Democratic Nomination

May 7, 2008

Clinton's Path To Victory Slipping Away
There is one scenario which does work for Clinton and that’s a massive movement of superdelegates leaving Obama and supporting her. The party leaders could do that, but it would take some unforeseen development in the race between now and the convention for them to do so. Obama, in some way, would have to be rendered so unelectable that the party rejects him at the convention. That’s not much to hang a hat on but it’s starting to look like her best option.

And even that might not be a viable option, said Joe Trippi. “Even if the catastrophic thing existed or happened, if she were perceived to have caused it, I think it would end her campaign too,” Trippi said. I don’t think there’s any way now for her to gain the nomination. She’s at the point now where if she tries to make a case against Obama, it will actually speed up superdelegates joining his cause just to shut the campaign down.”

But Trippi notes that the Obama campaign and Democratic leaders are still likely to give Clinton the room she needs to go forward on her own terms, provided that she does so in a positive manner. “I think there’s lots of tolerance for her going on, running the table into the convention and having a presence there,” he said. “But if she actually tries to compete in the trenches for the nomination in a way that looks like it’s damaging the nominee … I don’t think there will be any tolerance for that at all.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/07/politics/main4078586.shtml
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:31 PM
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29. And now that she's said it...
it will NEVER happen (delivering the nomination to her.) If she continues on, it will only get worse for her. And her supporters. I wonder how this will affect campaign contributions...
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:02 PM
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35. Brave, considering...what is she brave about?
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:57 PM
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2. Video of the RFK mention:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:58 PM
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4. Thanks.. that's easier than winding through the whole MSNBC vid link !
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:00 PM
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5. Yes. Seems she can't quite get this scenario out of mind. Keeps circling back to it.
Obsessively.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:01 PM
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8. She's following RFK's footsteps ... I don't blame her. I've had the same thought n/t
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:02 PM
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10. Go spam another thread with your disgusting tripe.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:03 PM
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12. I don't believe DU rules requires my silence. I will respect your POV, but express mine n/t
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:13 PM
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16. I'll bet you have the same thought.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:07 PM
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36. "Followng RFK's footsteps"?
How and where?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:01 PM
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9. Exactly, Clinton did not "mis-speak", she and her spokespeople have been...
bringing this up repeatedly. It is appalling, despicable and has FINALLY been noticed by the mainstream media.

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progdog Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:03 PM
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14. Everything they say
is calculated. Despicable.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:03 PM
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13. That's right NOT the first time. She's got this on her mind.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:19 PM
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20. She's a horrible, horrible...
...really selfish person.

Anyone who could say something like that--and be so focused on their
own fantastical ego-driven dreams--is a complete narcissist.

She's just reaffirming to all of us who had her figured out years ago. She's
detestable scum.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:14 PM
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17. more faulty memory on her part, and again the press does not call it
I have previously found and posted articles from March of 1992 that declared Clinton the obvious nominee. Sure, he may not have technically had enough delegates to nominate until June, but the campaign was basically over by early March and the 'campaigning' after that was for the General election, a cakewalk victory lap as far as the primary is concerned. The statement that Clinton was still campaigning in the primary in June is just more historical revisionism.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:18 PM
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19. Excellent point ! We need to email that to Matthews, et al.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:26 PM
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21. "Bill Clinton was obvious nominee in MARCH 1992." Thought it bore repeating. She's a LIAR.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:29 PM
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23. it is worth repeating, so I looked up my evidence
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4624951#4625187

My memory was a little faulty. April 7th was the date it definitely ended when Clinton won in New York and his chief rival, Jerry Brown, finished 3rd.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:16 PM
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18. :(
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:48 PM
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22. At least two other incidents ON TOP OF THIS ONE, have now been posted here.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:26 PM
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27. Did she throw her book bag across the room when she heard the news?
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:32 PM
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30. Hurled. The word was "hurled."
And so did I - when I heard her say it.
:puke:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:34 PM
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31. And I will always remember the disrespect Hillary showed him on 5/23/08
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:37 PM
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32. Now Clinton is making not so subtle death threats...
This is getting completely outrageous. She needs to be expelled from the US Senate as well as withdrawing from the presidential race. She is simply a deranged psychotic and belongs in an institution.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:39 PM
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33. Yep kicking
Again, you've got to be blind if you can't simplify it down.

*** She has death of her opponent on her short list as a last chance at winning.****

It's that simple.

And EVEN if it's in your mind, you don't say it-much less three times! That's a self assassination.

You don't get anymore obvious scorpio dragon lady than that. Out out damn spot!
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:42 PM
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34. BACK-OFF! She was tired in April too! Can't wait for that 3AM call.
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