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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:32 PM
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Hillary Is Ruined
I have spent the last two weeks remaining positive about Hillary and giving her praise for backing off of the attacks, I've even taken some heat from Obama supporters for doing so (mostly on my own message board). Hell, I was even warming up to the idea of her being Obama's VP.

But today is a very sad day, with virtually no chance of winning (not that it makes it excusable) she had to bring something like this up. Does she think saying the things she does will actually help her? I don't understand how that could possibly be, is there nobody to filter these things through in her campaign before she says them? A couple of hours ago I was just livid over this, now I am just sad. :(

All hate and bickering between the opposing supporters aside, she just needs to drop out of site for a while.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:34 PM
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1. Its only appropriate that she would make a RFK reference
The last time my mom voted for a DEM (before she caucused in Idaho for OBAMA) was for RFK in CA in 1968. I remember her crying the next morning when she found out. Damn Hillary is toast.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:36 PM
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6. You have no morals or couth. Welcome to my ignore list, human filth.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:36 PM
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7. so you defend it? is there nothing your lady can do that you wouldn't countenance?
get help.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:40 PM
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9. are u serious?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:35 PM
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3. I seriously don't think that there is anyone that can tell her what to say or do....
I firmly believe that they are all afraid of her (and rightfully so).
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:35 PM
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4. her non-apology apology was unacceptable
after a gaffe (if it truly was a gaffe) of this magnitude, a "I'm sorry IF you were offended" jimcrack sidestep is beyond the pale.

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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:35 PM
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5. Hillary needs help.
She needs to seek psychiatric help ASAP. She has officially gone off the deep end.

How sad, really. I mean that. This woman has pissed me off beyond belief, but this latest crap has convinced me that she needs medical help & she needs it now.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 05:37 PM
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8. Not that I told anyone so, but if you read a few of my posts from a week or so ago...
I said the exact same thing... and Bill really, seriously needs some as well.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:18 PM
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10. Worse than that, she's causing us to need it.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:37 PM
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12. "Hillary needs help" --that was my reaction too...
I feel sad about this. As much as I have supported Obama and wish for Hillary to exit (with dignity),
I never imagined she would hang herself with her own petard. It's not a joyous day. Perhaps a day of relief in that this will finally end it.

What Hill said is just not the kind of thing you would say in public even if you would think it. I think she's just lost it...blown a gasket. I don't think it was calculated. But obviously it was an "argument" that was conscious in her mind and she had discussed it before. When people play to win at ALL costs, when candidates get in the habit of using the media to spread disinformation, when they continually fight dirty--these unfortunate slippages can happen. Usually "karma" is not so quick to come around and bite one in the ass.

I am NOT saying that Hill should be excused in any way, she is 100% responsible. But there should be some concern about her mental state from those who care about her. She is showing real signs of disassociation IMO. She did not apologize very effectively either. I imagine she's in shock. Her team is probably horrified.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:21 PM
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11. She ruined herself, no one else is to blame. She needs to hold up the mirror and say You Fucked UP
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:47 PM
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13. I think she was pushing for VP
definitely.

She pushed too hard.
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