*** REC This Thread If You Think Hillary Must Get Out NOW!!! ***

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

She's gone too far this time - now she says she's staying in the contest JUST IN CASE OBAMA is assassinated

Hillary Clinton is behind Obama in number of states won, number of delegates, number of super delegates. While she stays in the race that she cannot win, the RNC is busy outraising the DNC by 10-1, McCain is getting a free pass in the media, and we are 5 months from the GE. Hillary tried to compare the Florida and Michigan primary messups as being = to the 2000 election and Zimbabwe's election.

SEND AN EMAIL TO THESE FOLKS:

Tell DNC Chairman Gov. Howard Dean what you think here (form)

On MSNBC, Chuck Todd just said “that she realizes that she screwed up and this might be the last straw
and it’s over for her- that she went too far with these remarks.”

Please write to him ASAP and tell him you feel that way too.
Below are email addresses at MSNBC to contact

[e-mail] or chuck.todd at nbcuni dot com

[e-mail] or andrewa.mitchell at nbcuni dot com

[e-mail] or hardball at msnbc dot com

HILLARY RAISES ASSASSINATION ISSUE
DEFENDS LONG-RUNNING CAMPAIGN

By GEOFF EARLE New York Post May 23, 2008

Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama.

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said, dismissing calls to drop out.

Watch a video of the editorial board meeting here.

Obama's camp immediately fired back.

"Sen. Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," Obama campaign spokesman said in a statement.

Clinton made her comments at a meeting with the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader's editorial board while campaigning in South Dakota, where she complained that, "People have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa."

....Robert Kennedy, the younger brother of President John F. Kennedy, was gunned down in 1968 after winning the California primary. He had been a hero on the left for his civil rights agenda and calls to end the war in Vietnam.

Barack Obama, who leads Clinton by nearly 200 delegates and has already secured a majority of pledged delegates, has been the subject of threats. Early in the campaign, the Secret Service gave him a security detail at the request of Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Illinois).

... more at the link

THIS IS HILLARY'S IDEA OF AN APOLOGY, NOTICE SHE DOES NOT APOLOGIZE TO OBAMA, HIS FAMILY OR HIS SUPPORTERS:

"I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation
and in particular the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that whatsoever,"
the former first lady said.

[martymar64]

1. Me first!

Rec'd!

[roguevalley]

40. she articulated Michelle's worst fear and she hasn't got the decency

to apologize. what a dipshit.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

44. **Call the following uncommitted Senator-Superdelegates**

HERE'S WHAT AMERICA BLOG IS SAYING TO DO

Call the following uncommitted Senator-Superdelegates and ask them if the reason they haven't endorsed a candidate yet is because of what Hillary just said; that Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June and it's only May. That is exactly what she just said.

Main Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121,
Call the Capitol Hill Switchboard toll free at 888-355-3588
then ask for the particular Senator's office:

Senators
Ken Salazar (CO)
Joe Biden (DE)
Tom Carper (DE)
Tom Harkin (IA)
Mary Landrieu (LA)
Ben Cardin (MD)
Carl Levin (MI)
Max Baucus (MT)
Jon Tester (MT)
Harry Reid (NV)
Frank Lautenberg (NJ)
Sherrod Brown (OH)
Ron Wyden (OR)
Jack Reed (RI)
Jim Webb (VA)
Herb Kohl (WI)


http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/breaking-hillary-reportedly-invoked.html

[Zambero]

115. Some "apology"! Nothing was said to Obama whatsoever.

I almost hate to say this, but I suspect that in advancing the possibility of assassination as the rationale for her stayiing in the race, Ms. Clinton was actually coming clean with her last final hope for getting the nomination, that some violent act might end the candidacy of her rival. This dark revelation is far worse than swift boating. Worse than Karl Rove's tactics. As a former admirer of hers, I now hope that she decides to leave public life period, forever.

[Shae]

140. How magnanimous of her . . .

to be racking up tens of millions of dollars in debt for her campaign just in case something happens to Obama.

:sarcasm:

Seriously, when have we ever had a back up candidate "just in case" something happens to the nominee?

[ooglymoogly]

153. she might as well have said..."hey all you crasy Hill supporters out there;

If my opponent is shot I will become the president"

[Kaleko]

127. I sent an encouraging letter to Howard Dean just now:

Dear Dr. Dean,

It's time to persuade the remaining super delegates to endorse Senator Obama. The Clintons have lost what's left of their credibility, as you must, at this point, know only too well.

Thank you for everything you do in service to the DNC and our battered country under the worst regime ever.

Gratefully yours,

............



Thanks for the links and OP, WYVBC.

[Cosmocat]

59. There is NO doubt had BO said this ...

that Hill herself and every surrogate with a pulse would be on every possible media outlet demanding that BO terminate his campaign immediately ... They would absolutely use this to try to kill BO's candidacy ...

[rebel with a cause]

63. I love Barack, because he is so classy

but sometimes I just want him to tell her to KISS OFF. He is just too much a gentleman. Michelle would do it, I know she would. She's my kind of woman. :evilgrin:

edited for smiley.

[DaLittle Kitty]

113. "KICK" THIS MOFO OUTTA DA MF'N PARK!

:wtf: HillBill IS Done! and she did it to herself! :crazy:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

116. She assassinated her own campaign

its ironic.

Actually, its sad to see this happen to the Clintons, we were so happy when
we had the chance to remember them fondly.

(After we brainwashed ourselves into forgetting the negative parts).

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

166. ***List of Uncommitted Superdelegates*** tell Supers to stand up!

As Arianna Huffingon says -
Stop Yelling at Hillary to Stand Down and Start Yelling at the Superdelegates to Stand Up

Especially if there are some in YOUR state.

Uncommitted Superdelegates:


Representatives

Bud Cramer (AL)
Gabrielle Giffords (AZ)
Nancy Pelosi (CA)
Jerry McNerney (CA)
Mike Honda (CA)
Sam Farr (CA)
Jim Costa (CA)
Bob Filner (CA)
Susan Davis (CA)
Mark Udall (CO)
John Salazar (CO)
Jim Marshall (GA)
Rahm Emanuel (IL)
Nancy Boyda (KS)
Dennis Moore (KS)
William Jefferson (LA)
Charlie Melancon (LA)
Don Cazayoux (LA)
Rep. Michael Michaud (ME)
John Sarbanes (MD)
Steny Hoyer (MD)
Chris Van Hollen (MD)
John Olver (MA)
Niki Tsongas (MA)
John Tierney (MA)
Edward Markey (MA)
Collin Peterson (MN)
Gene Taylor (MS)
Rep. Travis Childers (MS)
Rep. Rush Holt (NJ)
Rep. Bob Etheridge (NC)
Rep. Mike McIntyre (NC)
Rep. Tom Udall (NM)
Charlie Wilson (OH)
Marcia Kaptur (OH)
Rep. Zack Space (OH)
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH)
Rep. Dan Boren (OK)
Bob Brady (PA)
Jason Altmire (PA)
Tim Holden (PA)
Rep. Mike Doyle (PA)
John Spratt (SC)
Rep. Jim Clyburn (SC)
Lincoln Davis (TN)
Bart Gordon (TN)
Nick Lampson (TX)
Jim Matheson (UT)
Alan Mollohan (WV)


Distinguished Party
Leaders

Jimmy Carter (GA)
Al Gore (TN)
Fmr. Senator and Majority Leader
George Mitchell (NY)
Fmr. DNC Chair Bob Strauss (TX)


Senators
Ken Salazar (CO)
Joe Biden (DE)
Tom Carper (DE)
Tom Harkin (IA)
Mary Landrieu (LA)
Ben Cardin (MD)
Carl Levin (MI)
Max Baucus (MT)
Jon Tester (MT)
Harry Reid (NV)
Frank Lautenberg (NJ)
Sherrod Brown (OH)
Ron Wyden (OR)
Jack Reed (RI)
Jim Webb (VA)
Herb Kohl (WI)


Governors
Bill Ritter (CO)
Steve Beshear (KY)
Brian Schweitzer (MT)
John Lynch (NH)
Phil Bredeson (TN)
Joe Manchin (WV)

Add-Ons
Terry Goddard (AZ)
Jay Nixon (MO)
Rusty McAllister (NV)
Jerry Lee (TN)
37 Unnamed Add-Ons,
including 2 from Michigan


DNC Members
Joe Turnham (AL)
Nancy Worley (AL)
Don Bivens (AZ)
Lottie Shackleford (AR)
Art Torres (CA)
Hon. Carole Migden (CA)
Bob Mulholland (CA)
Christine Pelosi (CA)
Robert Rankin (CA)
Steve Ybarra (CA)
John Perez (CA)
Pat Waak (CO)
Nancy DiNardo (CT)
Donna Brazile (DC)
Christine Warnke (DC)
John Daniello (DE)
Harriet Smith-Windsor (DE)
Richard Ray (GA)
Ben Pangelinan (GU)
Chair - Vacant (HI)
Vice-Chair - Vacant (HI)
Edward Smith (IL)
Vacant (IL)
Helen Knetzer (KS)
Jennifer Moore (KY)
Nathan Smith (KY)
Chris Whittington (LA)
Claude "Buddy" Leach (LA)
Elsie Burkhalter (LA)
Sam Spencer (ME)
Jennifer DeChant (ME)
Hon. Heather Mizeur (MD)
Susan Turnbull (MD)
John Sweeney (MD)
Belkis Leong-Hong (MD)
Debra Kozikowski (MA)
James Roosevelt Jr (MA)
Carnelia Pettis Fondren (MS)
John Temporiti (MO)
Yolanda Wheat (MO)
Leila Medley (MO)
Hon. Robin Carnahan (MO)
Hon. Maria Chappelle-Nadal (MO)
Dennis McDonald (MT)
Margarett Campbell (MT)
Sam Lieberman (NV)
Hon. Yvonne Gates (NV)
Hon. Catherine Cortez Masto (NV)
Philip D. Murphy (NJ)
Raymond Buckley (NH)
Irene Stein (NY)
Ralph Dawson (NY)
David Parker (NC)
Muriel Offerman (NC)
Carol Peterson (NC)
David Strauss (ND)
Hon. Chris Redfern (OH)
Ronald Malone (OH)
Patricia Moss (OH)
Hon. Joyce Beatty (OH)
Ivan Holmes (OK)
Jim Frasier (OK)
Jay Parmley (OK)
Meredith Woods-Smith (OR)
Frank Dixon (OR)
Jenny Greenleaf (OR)
Wayne Kinney (OR)
Gail Rasmussen (OR)
Hon. Bill Bradbury (OR)
Eliseo Roques-Arroyo (PR)
Hon. Gilda Cobb-Hunter (SC)
Cheryl Chapman (SD)
Gray Sasser (TN)
Dr. Inez Crutchfield (TN)
Boyd Richie (TX)
David Hardt (TX
Denise Johnson (TX)
Betty Richie (TX)
Linda Chavez -Thompson (TX)
Helen Langan (UT)
Jim Leaman (VA)
C Richard Cranwell (VA)
Hon. Alexis Herman (VA)
Jerome Wiley Segovia (VA)
Howard Dean (VT)
Eileen Macoll (WA)
Ed Cote (WA)
Sharon Mast (WA)
David McDonald (WA)
Nick Casey Jr. (WV)
Alice Germond (WV)
Paula Zellner (WI)
Nancy Drummond (WY)
Cynthia Nunley (WY)
Marylyn Stapleton (VI)
Vacant - 1 (At-large)
Vacant - 2 (At-large)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/stop-yelling-at-hillary-t_b_103135.html

[Doun]

135. Few are calling her out on her lie

Robert Kennedy was assassinated after only 13 Primaries! That race bares absolutely no resemblance to the current race for the nomination!

The probability of Obama getting assassinated for being an African-American is high. It would be wrong to hide that fact.... Some will just never accept an African-American President and Clinton is playing that race card as best as she can!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1968#Primaries

At the moment of RFK's death, the delegate totals were:

Hubert Humphrey 561
Robert F. Kennedy 393
Eugene McCarthy 258


Primaries

Only 13 states held a primary at this time (California, Oregon, Nebraska, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Florida).

[sasquatch]

2. k & r

:kick:

[WillyT]

3. Yep... K & R !!!

:mad:

[StevieM]

4. Nor should she apologize to Senator Obama--she did nothing wrong (eom)

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[Oleladylib]

7. Didn't do as asked...by the way...the opposite.

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[But....]

45. Huh?

As much as I despise Duya I don't talk about him being assassinated, (impeachment would be fine), but your O.K. with Hillary's talking(hoping?) about Obama's death. I may have to get a star just to do something I never though I would do, put someone on a list.:spank:

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[catgirl]

72. Except to be a despicable human being?

[StevieM]

74. Obama is the despicable human being. Not that it matters--he won't be elected. I wonder when

he'll start smoking again?

Steve

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[Utopian Leftist]

89. Congratulations!

You've just become the first person I've ever put on ignore.

[reggie the dog]

144. I hope he still smokes reefer

I would much rather have a president who would smoke a fatty and then sit down and try to get the Israelis and Palestinians to do the same and really HONSETLY try to talk peace, than an alcoholic snorting coke and then thumping his chest offering war as the solution to everything.

[reggie the dog]

145. What is wrong with smoking?????

[ooglymoogly]

154. thank the almighty for the ignore tab.

Goodbye SteveM

[progdonkey]

158. OMGOMGOMG He's a smoker! Like OMG for real!

Go outside, get some fresh air. Seeing your candidate not only lose, but lose with absolutely no class or integrity must have really gotten to you. Poor thing.

[youngharry]

161. Obama is

StevieM, you are way too cute for words. You are the perfect example of the people that Abraham Lincoln talked about when he said, "It is the empty barrel that makes the most noise'". Your noise is not only empty, but un-american, so I guess you are just another paid propagandist from the Republican Party sent over here to make noise as most of your party doesn't know the value of life taken by--assassination or an illegal war.

[beezlebum]

83. i've also had it

with her "supporters."

goodbye.

[Overseas]

157. They are just trying to earn a couple of bucks.

Here's more about the Clinton camp paying positive posters.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6103961&mesg_id=6103961

[Name removed]

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[liberalhistorian]

114. Of course not. She never does, does she?

The Queen always knows best and always knows right. She is never wrong and, even when she IS wrong, she's never wrong. Thank you so much for correcting us. Now go back to kissing her ass like a loyal Queen's subject.

[ekwhite]

117. Maybe in your mind she didn't

But the Bobby Kennedy assassination reference is beyond the pale for most of us.

[reggie the dog]

143. at long last

have you no sense of decency

[Oleladylib]

5. Why the hell should she apologize to O, his fam or followers..?

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[Oleladylib]

18. You're invited!!!!

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[Bette Noir]

129. I love you, Carolina,

but could you please leave "fat-ass" off the list of descriptives for Ms. Clinton? I have a fat ass myself, and I don't want to be reminded that I have anything in common with her.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

15. re read the op - who do you think she was talking about being assassinated?

read it. She said she was staying in the contest just in case Obama was assassinated.
He's the only other candidate in the Democratic Primary.

She's not talking about McCain's assassination.

If you want to make excuses for her and call this a "gaffe", then
consider that if she is this insensitive and off key, she has no
business representing our country.

She has hurt alot of people today, including me.

[Oleladylib]

19. take a asspirin and don't call.

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[Duncan]

93. self delete

Didn't like your words, or mine.

[goclark]

25. If Obama had dared to say this he would be basck on the

streets of Chicago begging for change.

Now where is the justice in America.

He would be behind BARS!!! :puke:

I can't believe I could be this angry!

[Carolina]

I know how you feel, and the Hillbots

vile excuses for this just boil my blood even more.

[Frustratedlady]

20. Have you ever heard about subliminal messages in ads?

If she had the Kennedys on her mind today, that's understandable. However, who did she have on her mind the other time(s) she brought up the assassination of Bobby Kennedy?

That comment was a subliminal message.

[gulfcoastliberal]

22. Reconsidered my post...

Deleted.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

30. Please edit your post - you have a few minutes

we don't need to stoop to others' lows.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

32. thanks. I realize we're all upset

many of us have worked hard on behalf of Obama, we're emotionally invested
and this is so painful for us all.

[gulfcoastliberal]

47. I know... upset is putting it mildly. KO has a special comment on countdown re: today

... nt

[rebel with a cause]

56. I will be civil here.

She owes Obama an apology because even if it was in an error, Obama was the object of her statement, and it sounded like she was saying that if Obama was assinated she would be there to take his place. Do you really not see that!!!! By the way, her apology was not an apology to anyone, it is what I was taught in counseling to say to my patients. I am sorry if I upset you, which translates to I am sorry that you are upset. Also, it was just pointed out that what she said was inaccurate, her husband already had the nomination before June. It was just a technicality that he was waiting for the California vote. Don't take my word for it, the editor of Newsweek just said so on MSNBC. She also stated things like this before, so she can not even defend it by being tired.

Also, if you had ever been to an Obama event, you would know how serious this happening is being taken. Security is too the max. Not like it use to be sadly. There are people out there that do not want an African American as president. All they need is a little encouragment, and hasn't Hillary set herself up as the "white man's candidate". She has made the bed that she now lies in, and it time for her to exit the campaign and do so as graciously as possible. Apology is needed for her to do so.

[Muttocracy]

106. excellent post. nt

[Duncan]

90. self delete

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[WillYourVoteBCounted]

119. "Duncan" its against the DU rules to use this board to threaten other DU'ers

whether you pretend its a joke or not, its plain old harassment.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

122. Just want to say THANK YOU MODS

very kindly.

[stevedeshazer]

8. I vote for a "stop the circus act" routine of begging for recs.

It just makes you look bad, sort of like a panhandler.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

11. yes, lets censor DU so your sensibilities won't be offended - NOT

lets keep the nightmare going until something really bad does happen.

[stevedeshazer]

27. Begging for recs is low rent.

That's my opinion. I'm not about censorship. You have every right to make a fool of yourself.

I encourage it. Keep it up.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

33. thanks, keep kicking my thread by posting your complaints on it

it helps me each time you do.

[stlsaxman]

141. "Rec This Thread If..."'s are not begging, these threads are polls of sorts.

nothing of significance to any particular poster.

[stevedeshazer]

155. Then do a poll

Attention whores.

LOOK AT ME!!11!!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

159. thanks for bumping my thread again

it helps ensure that people who were busy yesterday will still get to see it today.

[stlsaxman]

162. stlsaxman Hi5's WillYourVoteBCounted- TWICE!!

Touche, mon chien!

:rofl:

[LittleBlue]

9. For her benefit, she should drop out

She's not hurting anyone but herself from this point on.

[H2O Man]

10. I do.

I think she passed over the line. Yesterday, I thought it was fine for her to stay in until the end of the first week in June. But that changed today.

[montanacowboy]

12. It's amazing how the hillary ass kissers

will dismiss anything she says or does

she is a disgrace to women, democrats and the world in general

get the hell off the stage before as some on this board said, someone invents a hook that won't get tangled in a pants suit

[tekisui]

14. Girl, just go away.

[Triana]

16. ...and there Teddy sits with brain

cancer and we all know his time with us is limited - and SHE BRINGS THIS UP?

:wtf: is the MATTER with this beyotch?

The THREATENS Obama and bitchslaps the Kennedys (whose elder is terminally ill) all in one fell swoop.

What a SICK little sociopath.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

17. If the Supers don't act now, then they are complicit

IF this isn't a wake up call, nothing is and the supers are part
of this destruction of the democratic party.

[Triana]

23. Agreed. They've been sitting their with their thumbs up their rumps for TOO

long. Time to sh*t or get off the damn pot. In fact had they done so when they should have it would NOT have had to come to this ugliness.

[dana_b]

34. that's how I'm feeling too.

However I know that I'm over reational now. I do regret some of the stuff that I've written here on DU so I took a little time to write to the SDs in a calm and I hope intelligent way. No "omg, that %#*^%# Hillary!!" statements, I swear! lol

try it (if you haven't done it already)- it helps and gets your mind a little more focused.

[Carolina]

53. exactly, sociopath

[Muttocracy]

107. wouldn't it have been nice for Teddy to have a weekend with less media

where he could just go sailing and hang out with his family, and plan for his health care? Now he and his family are getting dragged into this crap. Thanks Hillary.

[Growler]

24. Hillary is a shit

[SlipperySlope]

26. OMFG - K&R

[Skidmore]

28. I heard Chuck Todd...

I don't care at this point if Hillary feels "pained." She has no filter between her brain and her lips.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

29. Update: Tweety, Chuck Todd, Andrea Mitchell and Pat Buchanon make excuses for Hillary

they are trying to bullshit us that Hillary "looked pained". blah blah blah.

OMG what does the woman have to do!

She didn't issue a real apology but a back handed insult.

She's sorry IF????
IF???

She fails to apologize to Barack Obama or his family?

What about his children who wonder if he is safe?

If you get a chance use the email addresses in the OP and tell
Andrea/Tweety/Pat& Chuck what you think

[dana_b]

36. omg

I wonder what KO will say??

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

38. Keith Olbermann is providing a special comment tonight on MSNBC

According to "One Million Strong".
http://www.onemillionstrong.us/showDiary.do?diaryId=1186

[rebel with a cause]

60. SPECIAL COMMENT!!!!!!!

Waiting, Waiting, oh come on time.

[KSinTX]

43. She is rotten to the core

I've stayed neutral (or tried to) but this is a blow across my bow.

[WA98070]

31. All delegates should pledge to support anyone but Hillary should the worst happen.

[Boo Boo]

35. Oh, snap! Hillary has snapped!

:crazy:

[liberaldem4ever]

37. K&R

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

39. "Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid - Where the fuck are you? "

Friday, May 23, 2008
Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid - Where the fuck are you?
by John Aravosis (DC) · 5/23/2008 06:57:00 PM ET · Link
Discuss this post here: Make a comment · reddit · FARK · Digg It!


We love you guys, but seriously - where are you?

What more proof do you need that Hillary Clinton isn't slowly wrapping up her campaign gracefully? What more proof do you need as to the damage that Hillary Clinton is causing our party by staying in the race? What more proof do you need as to the venom that is motivating her insistence on staying in the race? Do you honestly still think that she's not capable of dragging this out until the convention? Today proved that she is capable of anything.

It's far past the time for quiet little conversations urging Hillary to play nice. She lost the right to ask for "the benefit of the doubt" ten racist eruptions ago. Dean, Pelosi and Reid should tell Hillary that she has till Monday to gracefully exit the race, or Monday afternoon they are publicly endorsing Obama and calling on her to concede. And then, if she doesn't concede, Dean, Pelosi and Reid should publicly call on all the superdelegates to immediately pick a candidate, or else.

....more at America Blog here:
http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/draft-howard-dean-nancy-pelosi-and.html

[Carolina]

42. K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R!!!

[Padem61]

51. K&R

Can not Rec yet I do not post enough but this is the worst thing ever in politics time to get out any thoughts of VP are done now.

[Carolina]

57. welcome to DU

This is truly the last straw.

I turned against HRC after her calculating IWR vote. Then I watched her lie, pander and resort to the kitchen sink in this campaign.

But today takes the cake. JFK and RFK were the heroes (along with MLK) of my youth and RFK's short campaign was the first one I ever worked on. For that witch to channel assassination wishes possibly to her bigoted constituency in Appalachia is just the most despicable thing and shows she's not ready for shit.

She needs to go away. And she needs to be voted out of the Senate as well.

[me b zola]

49. Get back home, Loretta!

Get back
Get back
Get back to where you once belonged

[Wizard777]

52. If Obama addresses this with the King family at his side.

Hillary will NEVER be able to show her face in public again.

[dennysp]

151. King Family AND Kennedy Families!!!

Can you just imagine the impression on the NATION as a whole? They all appear together with Sen. Obama and express their regret and dismay over HRC's remarks, and state how OFFENDED they are.....Hmmph! "IF" someone is offended.....Hmmph!

[frog92969]

54. And take the DLC with you!

On the bright side, if she's advertising for help she probably doesn't have a plan.

[Canuckistanian]

55. Her response was pathetic

If she doesn't understand the import of her words, than she needs to go.

Period.

[FourStarDemocrat]

108. She doesn't say the word "sorry" easily...or ever. n/t

[LongTomH]

168. Her inability to apologize or even to own up to her 'mistakes'.

are just another reason I do not want this person anywhere near the Oval Office. 'nuff said!

[Joe Bacon]

58. She must go!

She has shown the whole world that she only cares about herself. She needs to be stopped.

[KamaAina]

61. Looks like she just shot herself in the foot.

:spank:

[frog92969]

62. Wrote to Dean

Thanks for the form link, very convenient.

Kick

[apocalypsehow]

64. Kick and effin' Rec.

:kick:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

65. she upset me

so.............

[Martin Eden]

66. She ought to get, and Obama supporters ought to cut it out.

With her comment (whether it had dark intentions or not) Hillary has likely driven the final nail into her own campaign.

There is no need for Oabama supporters (of whom I am one) to continue villifying and heaping abuse upon Hillary and her supporters. Whaterver you may think, she and her husband are and have been pillars of the Democratic Party who have fought for the Democratic agenda their entire political lives.

But this post isn't about praising Hillary Clinton. It's about scolding Obama supporters who have been as vile and nasty or moreso than they accuse others of being.

Do you understand the first thing about the candidate you support?

Barack Obama is special because he is a healer and a unifier who understands that our country wlll continue having a very difficult time pulling itself together if we don't learn to pull together and see past our differences to the overriding common interests we all share.

Obama does not spew the hateful attacks seen daily on this board. Why do you?

[leftrightwingnut]

67. This has all the hallmarks of the Dean scream. MSM smelled blood and struck.

They finally found something on which to hang her. It was a poor choice for an example but definitely not worth this hysteria. The MSM isn't going to let this one go.

[beezlebum]

86. assassination is NOT reminiscent of the dean scream, friend

i hardly think bringing up kennedy's assassination is even REMOTELY akin to "the dean scream."

"bitter-gate" is akin to the dean scream.
"Pastor-gate" is akin to the dean scream.
"flag-pin-gate" is akin to the dean scream.

i'll even go as far as to say- though i consider it valor theft and am very reluctant to do so, but for the sake of fairness to hillary's *respectable* supporters- NOT to hillary or her minions- that "sniper-gate" is almost remotely akin to the dean scream.

ASSASSINATION, however- NOT akin to the dean scream.

this is beyond the pale.

[leftrightwingnut]

120. I am equating only the MSM reaction, not the subject matter involved.

I have learned since my last post that this isn't the first time Hillary said something like this. Well, why the outrage now? Even as I wonder why Clinton would mention assassination several times, I cannot help but notice the parallel. Taken in it's original context, the general reaction was a bit surprising to me. In the context of several references, it is worrisome.

I am always highly suspicious of emotional flaming outrage fanned by the MSM, regardless of nature or source. You should be too. It is a proven and effective way to manipulate people. Just because you share the outrage doesn't make it less effective or make you any less manipulated.

I prefer to reserve judgment until I have more facts and a cooler head. Perhaps she deserves it, nevertheless, I am concerned about whose agenda is best served by pushing Clinton out of the race as soon as possible. (And I don't mean Obama.)

[beezlebum]

124. i don't need a media outlet to tell me how to react.

i do not watch corporate media. at all. the only time i even catch KO is right here on DU youtube posts.

many mispeakings and misgivings and mistiredings have been forgiven- THIS is where she has crossed the line. THIS is not the same as the dean scream, because the dean scream was baseless, paltry, and nonsensical infotainment devoid of substance- THIS on the other hand is solidly offensive and alarming. period.

i have not asked for clinton to leave the race. as previously stated, while i have agreed that she could leave the race and i'd be thrilled, i have not ardently called for it, and even from time to time have supported her "right" to do so, even though i felt she was obstructing a crucial race to the white house.

[BringBigDogBack]

68. Bitch is destroying the party, or at least attempting to....

Yep, I said it. I never thought I would say that word when describing her, but today was it. The last straw. The bitch needs to be removed from this race, and perhaps, this party.

It's over, Hillary.

[CaptJasHook]

69. I can't recommend. I think she should have gotten out a month ago. nt

[CaptJasHook]

70. I can't recommend. I think she should have gotten out a month ago. nt

[catgirl]

71. Get out and stay out!!!!!

You're not welcome anymore!!!!!!!

[pansypoo53219]

73. i figured this was why she WAS clinging

but then i hear she said this behind doors in MARCH. clearly she IS an egomaniac.

[Cathryn]

75. SHE HAS LOST HER MIND!

She is self-destructing before our eyes. Anyone who still supports this woman is blind, deaf and/or dumb. Any chance she had at being VP has just flown out the window. Thank GOD!

[jeanmarc]

76. I really don't think she was referencing an Obama Assassination...but...

...she's clearly unglued, burnt out, and just needs to go.

The situations are so different than the ones that she mentioned. She has no chance, as opposed to Clinton in 92 or RFK in 68.

Because she has no chance, and because she mentioned the assassination, rather than simply campaigning in California....it leads to all these thoughts that she is still running because of a possible Obama assassination.

It's macabre to bring up the assassination at all. It tells you where her mindset is. It's just crazy.

I don't care anymore about 'her feelings' or 'Bill's feelings'. Never really did. She needs to get out now and fast.

[Major Hogwash]

77. I told ya so, but ya didn't believe me!!

She's hoping that something bad happens to Obama, and she'll be right there!

Well, she won't get elected to dog catcher in 2012 now.

Good-bye Hillary and good riddance.

[Bette Noir]

130. Is dog catcher an elective office?

I would have thought it was civil service.

[CJCRANE]

131. delete

[reggie the dog]

147. does this mean SHE WANTS HIM TO BE KILLED?????

If he does get killed she should BE EXCLUDED FROM RUNNING, DELEGATES SHOULD CHOOSE DEAN OR GORE AT THAT POINT!!!!!!!!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

78. TPIP: Hillary's New Game Plan

From The Personal IS Political today:

"...there aren't any states remaining, not even Florida and Michigan, that can save her, it is mathematically impossible for her to win, which was NOT the case when Bill won California in June. So her only reason to stay in this race is on the off-chance that Obama gets gunned down, and she is apparently hanging on waiting to see if that will happen. Talk about a nasty plan A.

So her only reason to stay in this race is on the off-chance that Obama gets gunned down, and she is apparently hanging on waiting to see if that will happen. Talk about a nasty plan A.

I guess that makes sabotaging Obama for November so she can run for president in 2012 (or perhaps just to spite him and punish the Democrats) plan B, in case he doesn't get assassinated."


http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/05/hillarys-new-game-plan-wait-to-see-if.html

[CreekDog]

79. no, but for Pete's sake Hillary, stop being an ass

this is not helping you! and it's kicking our ass as well.

[Tribetime]

80. as Bill said if you can't stand the heat(even though she's doing it to herself)

get out of the race. Glad to K/R

[beezlebum]

81. i've said before that

while i wish this thing would fucking end, i didn't mind hillary keeping going, and i *agreed* with recent calls for her to get out, but wasn't *adamant* that she leave.

now it's TIME FOR HER TO GET THE FUCK OUT- not just of the race but of the fucking democratic party. she is not a democrat. not even a conservative one. she has one-upped- nay- ten-thousand-upped joe lieberman. she has crossed a line, and this is unforgivable.

I WILL NEVER, EVER VOTE FOR HER. PERIOD. NOT WITH RELUCTANCE. NOT WITH A CLOTHESPIN. NEVER.

kick and rec. :grr:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

82. 9:35 PM Timmeh Russert talking about how Hillary can be VP????????? WTF?

(Eastern standard time) on MSNBC with Stupid David Gregory.

these guys are fricking idiots.

David Gregory needs a brain transplant.

Hillary just assassinated her own campaign today.

[DB1]

96. Mr. Potato head reads from a script. This one was written before RFK remark and he..

can't adapt or ad lib well.

[Auggie]

84. Recommendation #200

[Swamp Rat]

85. !

[DCofVA]

87. The silver lining to this storm cloud is......

She is no longer on the VP list, short or long.

[reggie the dog]

148. The assassination comment

would be appropriate for a vice president explaining to school children why the office of vice president exists. In the current context it makes it seem as if she wants Obama to get knocked off so she can get the nomination.

[LSK]

91. K&R

[stillcool]

94. The Clinton's have managed...

to rip open just about every wound in our nation's history. John Edwards was right when he said the Clinton's have no conscience. Now we know that they have no soul.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
By Julie Bosman

KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”

[DB1]

95. Even without the RFK reference she basically says....

some people make the same speech everywhere, I change mine to fit the area I'm in, Hillary Dear, I think they call that pandering! Watch the tape on left of argus link, it is only a couple minutes in.

[AZBlue]

97. k/r

[Lindsey]

99. SHE MUST GO-THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.....N/T

[huskerlaw]

100. I've never participated in one of these threads before

because I believe in Hillary's right to remain in the race and her supporters' right to vote for her. But Hillary completely lost it today. Completely.

If she doesn't drop out by the night of June 3rd, the Democratic Party needs to seriously consider forcing her out. She just lost her right to take this to the convention.

[Mme. Defarge]

101. MAINTENANT!

NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cameozalaznick]

102. Perhaps if we all wrote Hillary a letter that said...

"It's not you, really. It's us." Perhaps then she'd get the hint. That's what I always say when I want to get rid of a boyfriend. Works like a charm.

[dempartisan23]

103. we must all support obama

reject hillarys campaign of hate.

[Ken Burch]

104. I wish it hadn't had to come to this, but, with sadness, yes.

HRC was a good person once. Perhaps someday she'll be so again.

But somehow, this year, she lost herself.

She needs a rest. And her supporters need to finally start the grieving process and then we need to bring them in to get a victory in November.

[dgibby]

109. Thanks!

I sent an e-mail to Dean. Raw naked power mongering is really ugly, isn't it? Don't know if I can kick and rec, but if I can, consider it done.

[Divine Discontent]

110. kick eom

[workinclasszero]

111. Hillary Rodham Clinton is a despicable piece of trash

She is radioactive after her assassination comment and non-apology to Senator Obama.

The supers need to end this horror show now!

[lilyannerose]

112. My Emails Read

The Clintons have crossed a line that I think even Rove and Cheney would have taken a swerve on. It's time that Hillary covered up her Freudian Slip and takes a walk down Defeated Avenue. The sooner the better.

Sincerely,

[bunny planet]

118. She must get out of this race immediately. She's a disgrace.

[liberaltrucker]

121. Depart from me, Hillary, I never knew you

In a weird sort of way, the Repukes were right about you and Bill.

Scheming to get what you want. Unfortunately for you, the winds
have changed. Not longer do the old rules apply.

You occupy Bobby's Senate seat. You have the opportunity to do
him proud. So far, you haven't gotten off to a very good start.

[ObamaKerryDem]

123. K&R!

This is the last straw..

[Douglas Carpenter]

125. of course and not only for the sake of the Party but to be honest to her sincere supporters

It is simply dishonest to lead on these hard working people with false hope for a lost cause when there is no point of principle except to build up her own bargaining position.

If she was like the late Sen Eugene McCarthy in 1968 and was pressing an extremely important point of principle by serving as the national electoral wing of the anti-war movement - I could understand.

As it stands now, she is simply maneuvering with a subtle threat of wrecking the Democratic Party's chances in the November election - not like to the late Sen. McCarthy in 1968 - but for purely personal ambition.

[cutlassmama]

126. Recommended

Obama is 1,000 times more class than she'll ever think about being.

[Bette Noir]

128. Thanks for the link.

I've emailed Dean, asking him to urge all uncommitted superdelegates to stand up for Obama before Clinton escalates any further.

Hillary needs to leave this race, and spend a year or two in a quiet country retreat.

[Lady-Damai]

132. K&R!

[Eurobabe]

133. Rec'd, and send email to Gov. Dean

this is outrageous!

[Perry Logan]

134. This would be fairer if we had an "unrecommend" button.

I get it. This thread is like a poll where you can only vote one way. How quintessentially Obama-ish...

I've noticed the Obammers like to set things up so the Hillary votes aren't counted and Hillary voices go unheard. Pretty strange behavior for people on the verge of victory, isn't it?

I cite weird threads like this one, the Obamites' craven overuse of the "ignore" function, and DU's policy of locking evenb the most mildly anti-Obama threads within seconds, while the vilest anti-Hillary threads get the "Greatest" treatment.

It's weird the Bammerwammers would do this, given their superior numbers here at DU.

Come to think of it, what could possibly be the point of a thread like this, other than to tell the world you hate Hillary?

We get it, guys. We know you hate Hillary. No need to repeat ourselves hundreds of times, starting thread after thread where we tell everyone--once again--how much we hate Hillary, etc., etc.

Ah, the politics of hope!

Maybe the Obamites are just not cut out for the game. The whole political thing seems to drive them nuts.

[Stuart G]

136. Britney Spears = Hillary.....both sick..

When Britney had her breakdown in front of the country, it was very sad..So, ?

..Hillary has her breakdown in front of the country...it is also sad.

People are not going to agree about the connection..that is ok. Sick is still sick...

[Monk06]

137. Hillary: Obama is RFK an assassination waiting to happen whereas I am Hubert Humphrey.

[Tennessee Gal]

146. What a disgusting post.

[Monk06]

169. I have no special disdain for Hillary in fact I was rooting for her before

this Obama feud thing happened. Her public
statements have now become increasing reckless
and inflammatory. eg "annihilate Iran" and the
"working class people/white people" meme in Pennsylvania.
As if African Americans are not working people too.

My remark comparing her to Hubert Humphrey refers
to the RFK Humphrey contest where RFK was the popular
favorite while Humphrey was the favorite of party
insiders.

[Phred42]

138. Hillary is acting like a Woman getting divorced

- Out of her mind
- totally self absorbed
- lashing out in stupid ways
- she whats EVERYONE to feel as bad as she does therefore no intention of ending the pain for those around her
- Economically suicidal - Would prefer to see the Lawyers get all of the money rather than give anything up.
- Just wants to hurt 'the other guy' in any way possible.


:crazy:

[Maineman]

152. Very interesting observation. I do not ...

want to push her out, I just want to shut her up. She and Bill are saying too many divisive and destructive things.

She is leading her supporters off a cliff - also very destructive.

[Phred42]

171. Unfortunately, she's leading her supporters off the cliff

and pushing the rest of us of that cliff

[Neverarepublican]

139. Every morning I wake up to hear the news.

"Hillary out, Obama the nominee"

[Autonomy]

142. what do i do if i dont give a fuck

[TankLV]

149. NO, FUCKING. WAY.

You obamaidiots are really getting insane now...

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

160. Black Star News: "Clinton “Hopes” For Obama Assassination?

she's an insensitive, calculating scheming politician who wishes to be
the LBJ of the 21st century.

Clinton “Hopes” For Obama Assassination?
Black Star News Editorial
May 23rd, 2008

Senator Clinton has finally snapped under the pressure of her losing campaign and pressure from her demonic husband Bill and his race-baiting campaign strategy against Senator Obama
Somehow we at The Black Star News are not surprised to read today that Senator Hillary Clinton told a newspaper’s editorial board, in a not very subtle way, that she remains in the presidential race where she has no chance of winning on the hope that Senator Barack Obama could be assassinated.

We suspected this all along, even when she still had some chance, and we said so in our Editorial “Clinton Race Baiting Could Endanger Obama,” which was published on www.blackstarnews.com on March 16, 2008. Senator Clinton today when asked why she remains in the race told the editorial board of the Sioux Falls Argus Leader: "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. You know I just, I don't understand it…."

Reacting to Clinton's comments today, New York City Councilmember Charles Barron had this to say: “Hillary Clinton must have lost her mind. For her to even make the implication about an Obama assassination. That is insane for her to say that. There are enough crazy people out there who would want to so something like that…and for her to encourage it? Someone should make a citizen’s arrest of her for conspiracy.”

We wholeheartedly agree with Barron's sentiment and we suggest Senator Clinton should be held responsible by all decent Americans if any harm comes to Senator Obama. We believe that if this woman has a shred of dignity and self respect –if not for her, for the sake of her daughter Chelsea—she should apologize to the American people, withdraw from the race and join a monastery.


Below is our original editorial in March.

Clinton Race Baiting Could Endanger Obama

...more at the link
http://blackstarnews.com/?c=135&a=4560

[Pisces]

170. She needs to go, end of story.

[bluerum]

150. Oh. This is in gdp.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

156. UPDATE: "The Field" recommends you read this:

Consider this an open thread, with the proviso advice to those that continue giving more exposure to Senator Clinton’s terrible gaffe yesterday even with the righteous indignation that any of us that are still human naturally feel toward it: I just ask that you read this story before speaking aloud or add more fuel to the kind of fire that has extinguished hope too many times before

http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/eln01_leader.html

And also read this Counterpunch article:

May 24 / 25, 2008
CounterPunch Diary

Death-Wish Hillary Primes Manchurian Candidate
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN

Ever since she realized back in early March that Obama was going to take the nomination Hillary Clinton’s long-term strategy has been to do her best to ensure McCain will win this November so she can become the Democratic nominee in 2012. But she had a short term strategy too and on Friday she deliberately made it explicit in a newspaper office in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. There she suggested that some is likely to step up to the plate and assassinate Barack Obama in the waning moments of the California primary, just as Bobby Kennedy was forty years go almost to the day. The wish is mother to the deed. If anything does happen to Obama in California Mrs Clinton should surely be indicted as a co-conspirator.

How to else construe her grotesque remarks in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, in the editorial offices of the Argus Leader newspaper. Here she told the editors, "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said, dismissing calls to drop out.

...Mrs Clinton and her mouthpieces have been steadily raising the volume on their verbal-lynching. In South Dakota Mrs Clinton lit the fuse.


...more at the link
http://counterpunch.com/cockburn05242008.html

[Pierre.Suave]

163. Hillary needs to crawl into a dark deep hole

and never come out of it. EVER...

[Zavulon]

164. I'm the 390th to recommend.

Only 110 more to the magic 500. We can do it, especially given how worthy the cause is.

[LongTomH]

165. Is there one for Keith Olbermann?

I'd like to send him a 'Right On!' reply to his special comment on Sen. Clinton's remarks.

[EFerrari]

167. I called Dean's office and emailed him yesterday.

We also need to call and email the Speaker's office. Nancy has a lot of pull at the Convention.