Clinton is lying about the 92 Primary ending in June.

[Big Blue Marble]

"... Clinton effectively won the Democratic Party's nomination after winning the New York Primary in early April."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1992#Democratic_Party_nomination


Why does she get away with making statements like this? No one challenges her. This part of her comments are
relatively insignificant compared to the rest of her statement. But I am so sick of this pattern. She says whatever
serves her purpose and often gets away with it. She has been saying this for months as one more justification for
her staying in.

[SlipperySlope]

1. If the 1992 primary lasted to June, then she's comparing herself to Jerry Brown.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6094799&mesg_id=6094799

[dchill]

5. Who, if I'm not mistaken, lost.

:shrug:

[NashVegas]

2. Jerry Brown Campaigned All the Way to the Convention

Where he was nominated, then seconded himself ... and cried at the podium when he spoke of his father, Pat Brown.

[dsc]

3. On the subject of lying

I lived back in 1992. My state voted late in 1992. My ballot had Clinton and Brown on it. Brown was still contesting states, including both mine (Ohio) and his (California) in June of 1992. I know this because I actually was alive and voted in that race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Democratic_presidential_primary

Although Brown continued to campaign in a number of states, he won no further primaries. Despite this, he still had a sizable number of delegates, and a big win in his home state of California would deprive Clinton of sufficient support to win the nomination, which Brown apparently thought would revert to him by default. After nearly a month of intense campaigning and multiple debates between the two candidates, Clinton managed to defeat Brown in this final primary by a margin of 48% to 41%

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[Big Blue Marble]

8. I lived way back then too.

I also have a clear memory that Clinton had the race locked up early as the above quote says.
Yes Brown stayed in but had no real chance of winning the nomination. I remember...he was my candidate.
I wanted him to win. I did not like Clinton. Although of course I voted for him in November.

[dsc]

12. so where is her alledged lie?

He stayed in as you admit.

[Big Blue Marble]

23. He stayed in. So did Huckleberry.

Neither had a chance to win. She did not just say he stayed in. She said her
husband did not wrap up the nomination until June. History says he effectively won
in late March or early April.

She has been saying twisting the facts about this since February to justify her continuing.

You ask does Hillary lie. Oh just a little now and again whenever she needs to.

[dsc]

31. and he didn't statistcally

He got the last delegate he needed to have a statistical lock the night of the california primary as your link pointed out.

[housewolf]

26. It wasn't "locked up" until after the Calif Primary in 1992

Clinton was ahead but he didn't have the majority of delegates until after the Calif primary. There was a possibility, albeit a slim one, that a big win by Jerry Brown could have denied Bill Clinton the nomination. He wasn't "officially" the nominee until after the Calif primary.

[quantass]

35. .

[LisaM]

9. And I doubt if there such a concerted effort to drive Jerry Brown out, either

In fact, I remember seeing Bill Clinton and Jerry Brown in a debate where Jerry Brown slipped in his 800 number, and the moderator tried to stop it, but Bill just laughed and said, "we all know it by now". I remember it particularly, because Bill Clinton rose in my estimation at that very moment. Of course, Bill relished competition. He wasn't afraid of it.

[JVS]

4. Don't blame me, I voted for Charles Woods

[Buck Rabbit]

6. In March of 1992:

.......
Tsongas, running low on money, withdrew earlier than had been expected, saying, "the alternative was to play the role of spoiler... That is not what I'm about. That is not worthy. I did not survive my ordeals in order to be the agent of the re-election of George Bush."

......
"Everybody hoped we'd have a nominee early," said Dee Dee Myers, Mr. Clinton's press secretary. "Now we're not there yet, but I think we're one step closer. Now the job is to define George Bush and to make this a two-person race."

.......

[Dems4HowardDean]

7. Bill Clinton Had it sewn up by March 17

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February 10, 1992: Iowa senator Tom Harkin wins his state's caucus. No surprise here. No candidate was challenging him.
February 18, 1992: Former Massachusetts senator Paul Tsongas wins New Hampshire. Clinton finishes second and brands himself the "comeback kid."

February 25, 1992: Nebraska Senator Bob Kerrey wins South Dakota.

March 3, 1992: Mini-Super Tuesday. Clinton wins Georgia. Former California governor Jerry Brown wins Colorado. Tsongas wins Maryland. Harkin wins the Minnesota and Idaho caucuses.

March 7, 1992: Clinton wins South Carolina.

March 10, 1992: Super Tuesday. Clinton wins six southern states: Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas. Tsongas wins Rhode Island and Massachusetts.

March 17, 1992: Clinton essentially ends the contest with a win in Illinois (though Brown would briefly reemerge with a victory in Connecticut one week later).

[WA98070]

11. Good Post. Can you lead me to a link for the 68 calendar and the rest of 92?

[Dems4HowardDean]

13. Here's a link to 1992. Bill had 3372 delegates, Jerry Brown 596

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Democratic_presidential_primary

[Dems4HowardDean]

14. Link to 1968 Primaries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_primaries%2C_1968

[housewolf]

17. "Essentially" does not mean "officially"

Bill Clinton did not have a majority of the delegate counts until June.

It's the same now... Obama has "essentially" won the nomination but has not yet won it officially.

[ecdab]

10. The queen of distortion strikes again.

[housewolf]

15. I worked on the Jerry Brown campaign in Calif in 1992

Bill Clinton did not have a majority of the delegates until the Calif primary the first week in June, 1992. Yes, it was expected that he would win the nomination but he didnot actually have a majority of delegates until June.

[housewolf]

16. I worked on the Jerry Brown campaign in Calif in 1992

Bill Clinton did not have a majority of the delegates until the Calif primary the first week in June, 1992. Yes, it was expected that he would win the nomination but he didnot actually have a majority of delegates until June.

[Dems4HowardDean]

18. Didn't have a majority? Bill had 3372 delegates, Jerry Brown 596

[housewolf]

22. That was going into the convention, after the Calif vote

Did you read the Wikipedia article? Did you see this part re Jerry Brown:
"Despite this, he still had a sizable number of delegates, and a big win in his home state of California would deprive Clinton of sufficient support to win the nomination,"

I was there.... I know what of I speak....

[Dems4HowardDean]

27. Even without The california vote Bill had about 3,000 delegates to Jerry brown 596

[suston96]

19. Well, looks like the OP is wrong. I have heard Bill Clinton recently say that it was June.....nt

[Buck Rabbit]

20. Was he wagging his finger as he said it?

[Big Blue Marble]

24. Excuse me.

If Bill Clinton said it.....than that would be true. :sarcasm:

[foo_bar]

33. a truly unimpeachable source.

[SoxFan]

21. Clinton was the presumptive nominee by March 18.

Clinton defeated Tsongas and Brown in the Illinois primary on March 17, and that was the end of the real contest. There were still a few odd twists (Clinton finished behind both Brown and non-candidate Tsongas in Connecticut, and there was a flurry of speculation that Tsongas would re-enter the race), but once Paul quit, it was essentially over.

[housewolf]

25. But it wasn't "locked up" (as Hillary put it) until June

Bill Clinton didn't have a majority of the delegates until after the Calif primary in June. I was there... There was a possibility, albeit a slim one, that a big win by Jerry Brown could have denied Bill Clinton the nomination.

It was like now... Obama has "essentially" won the nomination but not "officially." Bill Clinton didn't "officially" win it until June 1992, after the Calif primary.

[SoxFan]

28. 1992 had a very different dynamic

Tsongas won NH, MA, RI, AZ, UT, WA, ME, DE, MD, tied Harkin in ID and MN, and collected a good chunk of delegates in IL, MO, CT, CO, FL, GA, TN, NY; Harkin won IA, ID, and MN, Kerrey won SD. There were a lot of non-Brown delegates floating around out there.

[Dems4HowardDean]

29. 2145 delegates were need to win in 1992. Clinton had about 3,000 before calif.

election.

[stillcool]

30. ah well....she 'Mis-remembered'

she does that.

[DemVet]

32. You're embarrassing yourself by citing Wikipedia.

That's like using the National Enquirer on a Works Cited page on a college research paper.

[TexasObserver]

34. Why? Because Hillary is a LIAR. Because she routinely LIES.

She's incapable of NOT LYING.

[Az_lefty]

36. Hillary is lying about "fill in the blank"

She claims to have been vetted but the truth is she's been treated with kid gloves through out this whole primary. She f*cking lost, she needs to act like an adult and accept it.