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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:20 PM
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Hillary NEVER gives Obama the benefit of the doubt! (Bitter-gate, "not a Muslim...as far as I know")
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:22 PM
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1. Excellent examples. nt
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:25 PM
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2. "I, personally, would have left that church"
...payback is a ......
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:25 PM
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3. And she never congratulates him on his 'wins,' either, as he congratulates her
when she's won a state.

No grace whatsoever.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:53 PM
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5. it always cracks me up how she seems to say (when she DOES
acknowledge his wins) that she "commends his supporters". I don't think I've ever heard her use congratulate. Not saying that Obama uses the exact word of congratulate all of the time, but it just cracks me up. It also cracks me up that the words Obama uses to praise Hillary are "tenacious, formidable, capable" etc, and all of the surrogates use it as well as if it was included in the talking points sent out, haha.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:54 AM
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9. delete
Edited on Sat May-24-08 12:55 AM by ErinBerin84
I'm tired.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:51 PM
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4. Her behavior suggests to me that she is a narcissist with
a tendency toward megalomania.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:17 AM
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20. Yes.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:02 PM
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6. .
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:52 AM
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7. .
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:53 AM
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8. And yet her (hardcore, 20%er) supporters
Edited on Sat May-24-08 12:59 AM by anonymous171
insist that he has been running the ultra negative campaign.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:07 AM
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11. You mean the backwash at the bottom of the glass?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:08 AM
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13. Yep.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:05 AM
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10. This is exactly how I feel.
While I don't think Clinton meant her statement the way it's been interpreted, I'm reluctant to speak up for her because I KNOW that if their places were reversed, she would say nothing to defend Obama. Quite the opposite: she would jump right in and (cynically) exploit it for whatever it could get her.

She's behaved this way in the past, and not just towards Obama. A couple of years ago John Kerry got in trouble for his "stuck in Iraq" joke. It was clear -- to all fair-minded people -- that he simply made a mistake. He meant to insult George Bush, not US troops. But the Repukes jumped all over him for it. And Clinton joined right in. I suspect this is a big part of why relations between Kerry and Clinton are cool to this day.

So it's hard not to look at Clinton's present predicament and think, "Live by the sword, die by the sword."

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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:08 AM
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12. "Shame on you, Barack Obama! Shame on you!"
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:59 PM
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24. he should say that to her right now
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:09 AM
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14. I'm so far past caring how she treats Obama.
Turns out she's as bad as the Republicans said she was, only worse, that she can rattle on without any self awareness at all about a national tragedy, not to mention, a tragedy that Democrats of a certain age will never get over.

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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:11 AM
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15. He gets at least as rough with her: You're "likeable enough" - Snubgate -
plus Obama tends to put his insults directly into his stump speech -- for example, after the debate where he got owned, so he portrayed it as a bloody battle, and said that Hillary was "in her element." Or that time he made fun of her - "Who does she think she is? Annie Oakley?" And of course worse than anything else the brush-off-the-shoulders gesture.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:12 AM
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17. OK. Has he ever shouted "SHAME ON YOU" at her? Ever called her "Elitist and out-of-touch?"
Didn't think so.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 12:00 AM
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25. liar
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Martinovich Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:11 AM
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16. RFK gave her the benefit of the doubt (junior)
That's all that counts.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:12 AM
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18. No. To be frank, no one really cared what he said. She should've apologized to Obama.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:17 AM
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21. No. That's not all that counts.
Do you need strangers to tell you how to think and feel?
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:16 AM
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19. As far as this board is concern
Her supporters never have either but you see them not insulting people and screaming "faux outrage" when they practically invented that shit. You can compare this to Bitter-gate if you believe that she only made this comment once. You can easily say well she misspoke and "come on people you know what she meant" but she has said this several times.
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:54 AM
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22. good point.
Once could be a mis-step, but several times is deliberate.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:57 AM
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23. Don't forget "SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA"
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 12:01 AM
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26. "CHANGE YOU CAN XEROX!"
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 12:02 AM
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27. Obama is a genuinely good person and it's one of the reasons he won
Hillary could take some lessons from Obama. People aren't stupid they know a shitty trash and burn campaign when they see one. Like i've said before, if she voted against the war and ran a decent campaign, she would have won the nomation. Hell, even if she just voted against the war she would have probably won the nomination. She fucked up bigtime.
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