I wouldn't dismiss the NYPOST article on Obama having problems

[KoKo]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05232008/news/nationalnews/...


The possibility of some "lone RW Shooter" going after Obama is very much diminished by the Secret Service who learned from the JFK Assassination and through Reagan and Beyond...they seem to know exactly how to pin point some "would be assasinator" in the crowd or on the road or in the Plane.

Much has been done with "electronic surveillance methods" that we (the Public) are not aware of and won't be made aware of...so Obama is probably safe because some "Drone will come outta the sky" and bomb to smithereens anyone trying to go at him, if a savvy "SS AGENT" doesn't manage to blow away the perp before that's necessary.

BUT...the fact that Dems need a "back up" in the event of some other event..(like Repugs managing to do another Swift Boat)...but on MASSIVE SCALE" that would be far greater than they did with Kerry, is not beyond realm of possibility.

I don't think Hillary/Bill is wrong in thinking this because THEY KNOW...what can happen much better than the rest of us about what can be put against Obama. REMEMBER!!! They served in the WH and had the "RW Kitchen Sink and the Whole House" thrown against them. THEY KNOW! Plus...what "IF" Monica was a PLANT and they KNOW IT?

I would listen to them... :shrug: They've lived through the worst since Watergate of what RW will through at a Democratic Candidate and President.

[Beregond2]

1. I don't quite get what you're saying.

That we should listen when they say he hasn't been vetted, and is therefore a poor candidate? The same arguement could be made against them. Does anyone really think the Republicans haven't been saving a load of stuff to use against Hillary? That's one reason they want her to be the candidate, no doubt.

[KoKo]

2. No! I'm saying that the Clintons were in Power for 8 years...they know more than we do even about

what RW can do. It won't be the assissnator's bullet that brings down Obama...but the RW HAND OF THE SHADOW RW GOVERNMENT that brought down both Carter and the Clintons.

Not saying that Hillary isn't seeming to be really weird with her faulty campaign...but...that I believe the Clinton's are Democrats, even if they are DLC Dems...and that they know how the RW/Rove (whose still at large even with a Dem Congress on his tail who still after Libby Crimes)...can't seem to bring him down.

Clintons are being a "backup" in case Obama get's the Swiftboat Extreme! (I hope and pray and feel the RW wouldn't try an Assassines bullet" becaue that would be too obvious and would get the wrath of everyone down on their heads...given the RW's past association with those tactics. I think that the Clintons know they will find something to blow up on Obama (false) at the last minute that might implode his candidacy and they are wary of it. Hillary is doing her best to stay in ....just in case. And, I'm not saying she's an "angel" for this... She's just, like Bill...very pragmatic...about the possibilities of what could happen.

Just something to think about...from an old timer who lived through all of it...worrying about what happens to Altruistic Dem Candidates when the "shadow govt." feels threatened.

[Beregond2]

6. I see.

But surely they must also realize that if they can do this to Obama, they can do it to them as well, so what good would it do for them to be around to step in?

[Bluebear]

3. "Page not found"

[KoKo]

4. Scrubbed...I went back and searched...even article on DU Front Page...scrubbed...

Let me go back in my Firefox History and see what I can find....

[KoKo]

5. Here's the NY Post Article TEXT...and hopefully a link that works:

HILLARY RAISES ASSASSINATION ISSUE

By GEOFF EARLE
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05232008/news/nationalnews/why_hill_wont_drop_out__bobby_kennedy_wa_112232.htm
May 23, 2008 --

Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama.

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said, dismissing calls to drop out.

Obama's camp immediately fired back.

"Sen. Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," Obama campaign spokesman said in a statement.

Clinton made her comments at a meeting with the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader's editorial board while campaigning in South Dakota, where she complained that, "People have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa."

Obama, the first African-American to advance so far in the race for the White House, has faced threats, sources have said.

Robert Kennedy, the younger brother of President John F. Kennedy, was gunned down in 1968 after winning the California primary. He had been a hero on the left for his civil rights agenda and calls to end the war in Vietnam.

Barack Obama, who leads Clinton by nearly 200 delegates and has already secured a majority of pledged delegates, has been the subject of threats. Early in the campaign, the Secret Service gave him a security detail at the request of Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Illinois).

Clinton criticized an "urgency" to end the campaign prematurely, saying, "Historically, that makes no sense."

She later issued an apology for the remark.

"I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation and in particular the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that whatsoever," the former first lady said.

Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson defended the comments to The Post, "She was talking about the length of the race and using the '68 election as an example of how long the races in the past have gone -- she used her husband's race in the same vein."

[MadBadger]

7. Vile

[jlacivita]

8. She can suspend her campaign and still be nominated if something happens n/t