BIG NEWS 40 Clinton Supers switching. The end in sight.

[CaptJasHook]

from DailyKos

http://dailykos.com/story/2008/5/23/144331/245/396/521343

HUGE! Cardoza Switch -- First of 40
by MLDB
Fri May 23, 2008 at 11:45:43 AM PDT

Al Giordano Reports:

The Field has learned that Cardoza is the first of a group of at least 40 Clinton delegates, many of them from California, that through talking among themselves came to a joint decision that all of them would vote for Obama at the convention. They have informed Senator Clinton that it’s time to unite around Obama, and that they will be coming out, one or two at a time, and announcing their switch between now and the convention if Senator Clinton doesn’t do the same.

Never fear...the end is near.

As Al points out, this is a net gain of 80 for Obama because every one that Obama gains, Clinton loses.

They will be coming out a few at a time until Clinton concedes.

* MLDB's diary :: ::
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Update <2008-5-23 15:13:11 by MLDB>: I was interrupted with kid duties as I rushed to get this news out. Some context...Rep. Dennis Cardoza was publicly on the record supporting Clinton. Here is his statement (via an Obama campaign release) explaining his switch:

"This is the most important election of my lifetime. While I continue to greatly respect and admire Senator Clinton and feel she has made history with her campaign, I believe that Senator Obama will inevitably be our party’s nominee for President. He has proven himself to be a thoughtful, knowledgeable, and inspirational leader and will take America in a new direction, which we desperately need.

"The Bush Administration has been a huge disappointment. Mr. McCain, while certainly an American hero, represents more of the same failed Bush policies.

"I am deeply concerned about the contentious primary campaign and controversy surrounding the seating of delegates from Florida and Michigan – two states Democrats need to win in November. I will not support changing the rules in the fourth quarter of this contest through some convoluted DNC rules committee process. Yet, we must find a resolution to seat the Michigan and Florida delegates so these states’ voters are represented at the Convention. I believe we need to avoid this potentially divisive situation by uniting behind one nominee and bringing the party together immediately. Therefore, I have made the decision to support Senator Obama at the Democratic Convention in my role as a super delegate."

Tags: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Recommended (all tags) ::

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

1. That'll work.

[Cha]

29. Yeah,

right.

[Radio_Lady]

45. WE NEED A RELIABLE SOURCE for this information.

That's how journalism works, Hook!

[Johnny__Motown]

76. This isn't journalism.. it is the internets

[WA98296]

2. I hope they realize that she just invited them to do so. No need to wait.

[havocmom]

5. yep

Intervention time!

[Radio_Lady]

40. Request: Please direct me to information about Al Giordano.

To Captain James Hook (!):


From Radio Lady, KGW.com:

WHO IS AL GIORDANO????



Al Giordano does not come to mind when I look for talk radio people or even working journalists. This is the second time he has been mentioned in the last two days. (Daily Kos)

Who is he? Where does he work? What are his journalistic credentials?

Here is how Al Giordano described himself in 2003. Is this the same person?

"Al Giordano is an angry, bitter, underemployed, and court-protected online journalist reporting from somewhere in a country called América. Formerly publisher of Narco News and political reporter for the Boston Phoenix, Al spent the early 1990s as a daily AM talk radio host in the United States. Al will grant some email and radio interviews on the themes raised by this essay via al(AT)bigleftoutside.com "

What am I missing?

Thank you for your help.

Radio Lady in Oregon

[Radio_Lady]

43. I found his blog. There is NO INFORMATION about him on his own blog.

This is preposterous.

All it says is that "he got it right" in 2004 and wants to do the same in 2008.

[nichomachus]

68. Take a chill pill and read up on Al

Al Giordano is a veteran newspaper reporter, radio and television host, and Internet journalism pioneer who founded Narco News in 2000 and its School of Authentic Journalism in 2002. Prior to moving to Latin America, Al was the political reporter for the Boston Phoenix, and has published his work in The Washington Post, The San Francisco Chronicle, The Nation, The Utne Reader, American Journalism Review, New Left Review, and dozens more periodicals.

Named “Hot Muckraker” by Rolling Stone (2001), Al’s pioneering work in Authentic Journalism has also been profiled and praised by The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, The Guardian, The Christian Science Monitor, Online Journalism Review, Columbia Journalism Review, The Village Voice, Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, The Electronic Frontier Foundation, Wired.com, and The Media Channel. Al was the recipient of an Upton Sinclair Freedom of Expression Award in 2004. James Wolcott of Vanity Fair praised his coverage of the 2004 presidential contest noting that Giordano “enjoyed the hottest streak of almost any handicapper.”

Giordano was the first Internet journalist to receive First Amendment protections in a landmark New York Supreme Court case (Banamex vs. Mario Menendez, Al Giordano and Narco News) in 2001, setting an historic precedent for all online journalists and websites.

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[Lucky 13]

3. Praise Jeebus!!

It's about damn time!

[tekisui]

4. Great! i've been waiting for that.

[Occam Bandage]

6. At'll do, pig. At'll do.

[havocmom]

8. ah, ya went and made me smile

Thanks, I needed that.

LOVE that scene.

[RichardRay]

38. As I shuffle of this mortal coil

that's what I want to hear a Big Voice tell me - That'll do, Richard, that'll do.

[SwampG8r]

60. with his mom

[BlooInBloo]

7. Came out this morning. We'll see if it's true.

[havocmom]

12. If it wasn't true this morning, it will be by sunup tomorrow

[BlooInBloo]

18. Else the fix is in.

[CaptJasHook]

13. The Field is pretty reliable.nt

[Radio_Lady]

44. The Field's main reporter, Al Giordano, is non-existent, at least that's what I think after

spending 30 minutes trying to source this person. He may be playing THE FIELD for you, but not for this former broadcaster.

Did he just spring from the head of Medusa? Ridiculous. I don't even remember the outrage posted under his by-line last night.

Cordially,



Radio Lady in Oregon

[99th_Monkey]

9. Good news, but IMHO the time for "drip drip" is over. The Party needs a tsunami of Supers

for Obama, and FAST. The Party can no longer afford to have Hillary emboldening RW gun-toting nutjobs with her "assassination" rhetoric.

[TheDonkey]

14. I think we need to get him to the magic number very soon but after that they can continue to drip

she'll be in this until she is literally taken down by either bankruptcy or exhaustion from being ignored. Let them drip and still make news after Obama has hit that magic #.

[99th_Monkey]

27. All things being equal, I would agree. Would have agreed with you be4 Hill's "assassination" gaff

but all things are not equal at this point, because this kind of incendiary assassination-pandering crap canNOT be tolerated IMO.

See my other post here as to why.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6099311&mesg_id=6099597
I rec'd this thread; but personally, I'll stop feeling & expressing outrage once Clinton drops out,

{HELLO SUPER-DELEGATES!!!!] ... and not a moment sooner ... :mad:

This was the very last of the last straws for me; and the Democratic party needs to end this NOW.

This kind of assassination-pandering inflammatory filth should not be tolerated from ANY of our candidates,

I worked for RFK in Oregon and California during '68 campiagn... this cuts way to close to the bone for
me.

Now that she's shown her true colors, I would hope that EVERY Democrat worth their salt will not rest
until this lady is OUT OUT OUT of this race, period.

[panAmerican]

28. There'd better be a stampede of SDs now. I'm tired of those lily-livered SDs afraid of angering her.

[TheDonkey]

10. It's a good strategy not the flood the SDs his way. Still keeps the "momentum" going

If they were all to switch and for Hillary to still drag this out to the convention (which she WILL no matter what at this point unless Obama can do better than expected in PR/MT/SD) at least it gives the impression that Obama will be gaining ground in the dull period and the media will grow tired of the Hillary story.

[Thrill]

11. Where does this put Obama? 10?

[CaptJasHook]

19. That would put him at 349.5 and Hillary at 238.

A net loss of 80 for Hillary.

Nice try.

[Thrill]

22. No I mean how many would he need to clinch

[CaptJasHook]

23. 26 delegates

Sorry.

[Thrill]

47. The Cardoza 40

its called

http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=1258

[SwampG8r]

61. 26?

amazingly close to what he will get in SD and MT

[defendandprotect]

15. If this is true, it would overcome my sadness at the RFK comment . ..

it's just horrific --- !!!

And HRC needs to get out of this race!!!

[book_worm]

16. If true, it's good, but why dribble why not just come out all at once?

[populistdriven]

21. Because the lizard queen likely has a reserve to use as a pretext to steal the nom. somehow

[SwampG8r]

62. please?

the lizard queen?
as a floridian i object to this being used to describe her as we are the home and birthplace of the real Lizard King


a little respect for mr mojo risin
if we can?

[kenny blankenship]

25. The one thing that can energize Lamont Williams - I mean Hillary Clinton, is "ganging up" on her

If SDs announce en masse that the race is over and that Hillary has lost she will play that up as "the Boyz" bullying the girl, and we will hear endlessly how Evil Monster Howard Dean and his penis, The Deanis, orchestrated a Grand DNC Conspiracy against Hillary --just as she was on the cusp of Final Victory! (She was robbed I tells ya, ROBBED!)

Then Hillary will instruct her Hillbots to sulk and sabotage and sit out the Nov. elections, so she can run against McCain's VP in 2012.

The SDs for Obama probably appreciate the danger of feeding the Hildebeast with Victimology Treats, and they're waiting for all the primaries to conclude before they fall disproportionately on Obama's side. Meanwhile one or two will dribble out every day between now and then.

[CaptJasHook]

26. It's hard to believe Hillary supporters buy into that crap.

[skooooo]

17. Thank God!

[CaptJasHook]

20. Self Kick for Sanity

Shameless I know

[Radio_Lady]

46. Sanity isn't working for you tonight, Hook.

Your getting your knews from knuckleheads... sorry to say.

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[Lucky 13]

24. KICK

Now I can relax and have a good weekend.

[Imagevision]

30. There's a similarity between Hillary supporters and Bush supporters

[Rose Siding]

31. There it is.

Whew.

[StevieM]

32. This may be the most ridiculous thread ever. Let me explain how it works.

A nominee is established by early June when the race is over. The other candidate concedes. All the super delegates vote for the nominee. The losing candidate releases their pledged delegates to vote for the winner.

That is what happens in every election. This one is no different.

Steve

[grantcart]

36. No in fact that is not how it happens

usually very early in the process one candidate establishes a dominance and a large lead and a bigger advantage in money. The other candidates always drop out because of money. There are a few exceptions to this but they are very rare in modern American political history.

[CaptJasHook]

41. You're just upset tonight

Maybe you should stop drinking and read Hillary's own words on the mutable quality of a delegate's choice. Or maybe read the news over the last month. Or read the DNC delegate rules. Of better yet, quite being such a mendacious Hillbot campaign toady.

[Radio_Lady]

49. You, sir, are the person spreading totally unreliable garbage as news.

I've called you on it a couple of times in this thread.

I'll call you on it again.

Tell me where I can go to read up on the excellent reporting of Mr. Giordano.

Until then, I'm stuck with your reportage....

[Name removed]

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[D23MIURG23]

74. If this thread is so preposterous then why are you wasting so much time on it?

You aren't worried are you?

[Doun]

70. Thank you for the clarification

The race is much to close NOT to go to the convention. I also find that without the Florida and Michigan delegates, it's turned into an farce, considering it's a close race.

There has no be absolutely no doubt that Obama is the winner period. I can't see that happening without Florida and Michigan.

[AZ Criminal JD]

33. Another made-up story by Al Giordano

Everyday people post stuff this guy puts out. None of it is true. Totally finish.

[Name removed]

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[crickets]

34. Halle freakin' lujah

What a day.

[WillyT]

37. Go California... And The Rest Of Youse Guys !!!

:toast::bounce::toast:

:beer:


:yourock:

[CaptJasHook]

55. ....

:toast:

[Medusa]

39. After today? They all need to come out on the same day.

FUCK HER and her "feelings" and those of her "supporters". They are owed absolutely NO more respect or consideration after today.

[meow mix]

42. K&R

wootness

[AZBlue]

48. I would like to see ALL Clinton SD's to move to Obama tomorrow.

As a "thank you" for Clinton's asinine comments today.

[AuntPatsy]

50. the Gore controversy comes to mind regarding his original desire to

fight to the end and how quickly he was left high and dry...Can't explain it but the similarity frightens me a bit.

[CaptJasHook]

54. For all of you who wish to check the veracity of the Field

Because the Hillary nay sayers are trying to demoralize you. Here is a link to their organization:

http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?page_id=2

Some people are jealous because the Field is doing real Progressive work and they are resting on their laurels.

[1776Forever]

56. It just cannot be soon enough!!! There is a real urgency of NOW now! It has to happen!

:kick:

[DemVet]

57. DailyKos is not a relibable news source. Try again.

[CaptJasHook]

59. Is that only when the news doesn't suit you?

Kos has been right on more issues than I can count. And he has an activist base working the field.

[Major Hogwash]

58. Can't happen fast enough.

Seriously, this has gone on far too long.

[AtomicKitten]

63. agreed - California is now Obama country

:thumbsup:

[Zachstar]

64. I thank them for wanting to unify but the drip dripping is NOT helping!

What is needed is 10 at a time

[IndianaGreen]

65. Obama would take California in November, Times/KTLA poll finds

In other happy news:

Obama would take California in November, Times/KTLA poll finds

Clinton would also defeat McCain in the fall, but by a smaller margin. The survey comes less than four months after Obama's loss in the state primary.

By Cathleen Decker, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
May 24, 2008

Less than four months after losing the California primary, Democrat Barack Obama leads Republican John McCain in projected November general election matchups, a new Los Angeles Times/KTLA Poll has found.

Obama, the Illinois senator who has inched close to his party's nomination, would defeat McCain by seven points if the election were held today. New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, whose fortunes have faltered since her Feb. 5 drubbing of Obama in California, would eke out only a three-point victory, the poll found.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-me-poll24-2008may24,0,6353526.story

[CaptJasHook]

66. We still are going to have a fight, thanks to Hillary.

[IndianaGreen]

67. Hillary is the political version of a suicide bomber

She will destroy anyone or anything to get her way.

[apocalypsehow]

69. Well put and quite right. n/t.

[Doityourself]

71. Time to move...indeed.

[KSinTX]

72. I'll believe it when I see it

After the 50 black caucus members that didn't materialize, I'm not holding my breath. I'm sure Giordano means well, but I'm not buying this yet. He may be right.

[progetto]

73. Hillary will not concede even if she loses 100 SDs

It's not about the math. She's going all the way. As the media focuses more on Obama vs McBush, she may start to say even more crazy things.

[Skip Intro]

75. But...I thought it was a BAD thing for the supers to decide the nom....?

:shrug:

[ButterflyBlood]

77. Except they aren't in this case

They're simply not blocking Obama's victory of elected delegates.

[Johnny__Motown]

78. Only if it is for the candidate that has fewer elected delegates, this way they are not deciding,

they are agreeing

[avenger64]

79. That's the limit for me and the party, if it happens ....

... she wins the state, and the SDs from those districts she won support someone else? That ain't democracy, and it ain't right. Obama has taken the back-door the whole way, and the media has been forcing him down our throat.

I'm not playing along.

[Mz Pip]

80. I understand that sentiment

but I suspect that the CA primary would turn out a whole lot different if it were held today. There is a whole lot of buyers remorse going on here.

Not saying that it's right but there is nothing in the rules that have a delegate or Superdelegate's endorsement sealed in stone.

If anything positive comes of this, I hope it is a serious re-tooling of the whole primary system.