I do not believe Hillary was being intentionally malicious...

[kentuck]

Sometimes we all make mistakes. And this was a dandy. But I do not think she intended it the way it was interpreted. But I am not looking to see how Hillary handles this grand faux pas - I am looking to see how Obama handles it? Does he let her simmer in her own remorsefulness and sorrow? Or does he forgive her? In my eyes, it will tell me as much about Obama as some have interpreted it to mean about Hillary. If Obama is the person that I think he is, I think he will speak up for Hillary in an understanding and forgiving way, because I do not believe that, in his heart, he thinks she was simply being malicious and angry. Sometimes forgiveness is in order.

[slinkerwink]

1. she's repeated it twice before.

[msongs]

2. kinda sad they are the only 2 choices available IMO, but better than mccain nt

[anonymous171]

3. He just ignored her for the most part, I believe.

Remember, he thinks this kind of shit is stupid anyway. The whole "GOTCHA" style of politics is not something he likes to delve into.

[gateley]

4. Obama's campaign has been very gracious in response to this. nt

[livingmadness]

16. Indeed they have

saw Axelrod on with Chris Matthews saying he didn't believe it was a cynical move on the part of the Clinton campaign. Of course many Clinton supporters won't acknowledge that graciousness, too often the supporters are conflated with the candidate/the campaign.

[BlooInBloo]

5. Her benefit-of-the-doubt account overfloweth!

[DogPoundPup]

11. Like a toilet

[John Q. Citizen]

19. Like the sewage in the streets in Bagdad she wants the benefit of the doubt for.

I think Sen. Clinton is losing because people don't trust her.

I think people who don't trust her are smart not to trust her.

[DogPoundPup]

27. Her campaign is busy tonight figuring out how to make her

the victim.

[NJmaverick]

6. I think what happened, is she let her private conversations and ideas

slip into the public's view. That's the risk one takes when you are a complete phony. Sooner or later you slip up.

[DogPoundPup]

29. Ouhhhhh,

You have tremendous insight! :thumbsup:

[Judge Judith]

7. kick n/t

[PeterPancake]

8. Nevertheless her gaffe has served a purpose

She will exit the race next week, possibly sooner, in shame. Obama can freely pick someone else as his VP and the media won't spend weeks asking why.

I'll take it.

[Thrill]

9. What you see is the difference between Hillary and Obama. He didn't jump to attack her

on these comments like she did on Wright and his small town comments. She couldn't wait to jump on his small town comment. Axelrod pretty much defended her.

[ProSense]

10. Will Hillary offer an appropriate apology? "Sometimes forgiveness is in order."

She attacked Obama on Ayers, questioned his patriotism

Obama is not Hillary.

[WillyT]

12. K... Did You See Olbermann's Special Comments ???

They are in the DU Video Forum.

She has done this 4 or 5 times before.

This was NO mis-speak.

:shrug:

[baldguy]

13. "I can still win because Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June."

"I can still win because the important hard working white people will vote for me - not like those unimportant lazy brown people."


It's tough to forgive pathetic stupidity.

[kid a]

14. I don't think his camp will say much more.

I think Hillary might want to clarify her apology and admit that "assassinate" was a poor word choice, Bill actually had it wrapped up in early May of 92, and she is sorry to invoke that language.

Then move on.

[patrice]

15. I don't either. I think she is one very lost person. Lost and confused.

She should NEVER have hired those Repuke advisers. She thought she could out play them, but they never actually engaged her as a person, so what she thought she was working with WASN'T what she was working with.

[John Q. Citizen]

17. I forgive you, Kentuck. You know not what you do.

[FARAFIELD]

18. Too bad WV and Kentucky didnt vote THIS TUESDAY

Her margins would be even bigger.

[kentuck]

21. I can only answer to my own heart....

Not to yours. I truly understand your reasoning. I simply do not think it has totally evolved.

[John Q. Citizen]

24. i forgive you for thinking that. I really do.

[kentuck]

26. If you feel you must, that is your call.

But it is not I that is asking for forgiveness.

[tabasco]

Suuuuure. Saint Hillary always means well.

It's the heathen Obama who must prove his virtue.

[AZBlue]

20. This was no mistake.

Come on, you're not stupid. I know it's hard to admit when you've been so completely fooled by someone, but this is who she is. I'm being serious - I used to like her too, I was duped as well.

[Tatiana]

22. He's going to step back and let her deal with this.

His official statement called her comments "unfortunate."

His campaign staff has been put on notice not to engage in any speculative or negative discussion about the topic.

I'm done with Clinton. But I don't have to deal with her. He does. As such, he'll forgive her in order to work with her as necessary.

But she'll get nowhere near the ticket. That dream is finished.

[Colobo]

23. She made a horrible comment. I still can't believe she said such thing.

[kentuck]

25. Yes, it was a horrible comment.

But my heart does not tell me that Hillary is a horrible person. I must separate the two conflicts. Not because of what happens today but what might happen tomorrow. It's a karma-inducing statement. Sometimes we must stand stiff and brace ourselves against the winds of anger and ill-chosen words, lest we be blown into a dark world of blame and self-hatred. Please do not ask me to explain further.

[DemGa]

28. There's nothing for Obama to forgive

No ill intent - nothing implied. Just more made-up garbage like the rest of the smear campaign.

[RiverStone]

30. Not malicious, but reckless...

In her exhausted state, she revealed some thinking that told a lot about how she views her situation.

Perception = 90% of reality. Her fragile campaign is now dead in the water.

She should exit while she has any political capital left.

[RBInMaine]

31. Fine, bu tif she wants "forgiveness" she needs to APOLOGIZE properly and ASK for forgiveness.

[RBInMaine]

32. It seems clear that IN HER HEAD has been the idea that she could be the nominee if something bad

happened to Obama, up to and including someone hurting him (others might be plane crash, car accident, major scandal, etc.). But, is that worth holding out so long and hurting the party.
Either way, she needs to do more explaining and LOTS more apologizing.

[Quixote1818]

33. I agree. Quite stupid though.

Right there with that girl who wore a shirt that looked like it had a bomb attached to it, to the airport. Both should have known they were playing with fire.