Reactions to Hillary's remarks are pouring in!

[thewiseguy]

Times calls it "Strange and Tasteless"

Washington Post calls it "At best a poorly chosen example"

Andrew Sullivan says Hillary just imploded

Howard Fineman: "A campaign that probably needs to be put out of its misery real soon"

Olbermann on Clinton "You invoked a nightmare"

Orton from Mydd: "But we also cannot divorce her comments from her public stature, her intelligence, her responsibility as a leader, or our history."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

[AllentownJake]

1. Really sad

She's going out this way.

[Radio_Lady]

3. This whole primary campaign is really sad. We are doomed to repeat history,

I'm afraid. Divided we fail. This is just about as divided as I can remember any political party at this time. How did this happen? We had so many good candidates.

I keep asking myself -- If John Edwards, Chris Dodd, or Joe Biden had been the runner-up (essentially, Hillary beat all of them and is in second place), would the gnomes pour out of the woodwork with such vitriol upon the suggestion of a united ticket?

I'll never know.

[GarbagemanLB]

7. If said candidates praised McCain at Obama's expense, ridiculed Obama's message, and

LEAPT on every smear on Obama (Wright, 'bitter', Ayers, Farrahkan)? You bet.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

16. Here Here

[HCE SuiGeneris]

78. >

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear_hear

[Blondiegrrl]

69. Yup. n/t

[dchill]

17. "Divided we fail."

So? Unite! It's not like Hillary Clinton has EVER been a beacon of unity...

[americanstranger]

20. If any of them ran a comparably sleazy campaign

and sleazy is exactly the word for Clintons campaign - then yeah, they would have caught hell, too.

conversely, if Clinton had not taken the low road with such relish ('Now comes the fun part') and had tried to actually make the case as to why she was the superior candidate, I doubt the reaction to her campaign would have been anywhere near as vitriolic as it is.

You get what you give, RL. clinton served up a nasty campaign, and a lot of people - people who actually liked her - were turned off by it.

Clinton and her advisors can blame no one but themselves at this point. They were responsible for the type of campaign they ran, and they miscalculated badly.

- as

[Radio_Lady]

25. Fine. I hope your rule book includes Obama and whoever's on your alleged mind.

So far, I'm not seeing much UNITY among folks here about the VP without Hillary Clinton, either. Good, bad, or indifferent, replacing her with a woman with little name recognition or a white male whom she beat during the primaries... just doesn't really resound with me.

Go research it. Meanwhile, I'll cross my fingers and hope the woman with the 16 million votes is passed over for someone better... at least in the minds of the general population.

Otherwise, we get McCain't..... YES WE CAIN'T....

[americanstranger]

39. I don't get your point.

Hillary is not, was never, owed the nomination or the vice president's slot on the ticket.

She did not earn the nomination. She has lost by every rational measure.

She tainted her chances for the VP slot by dismissing Obama as a credible candidate - even rating McCain ahead of Obama - in an effort to build up her chances to get the nomination.

The '16 million votes' meme is a strawman, because most of those 16 million are good Democrats who will vote for the eventual nominee. I'll wager that most of those 16 million votes are more loyal to the Democratic party than Hillary Clinton. And those who are more loyal to one personality than their party, and let that determine their vote, should seriously consider whether the Democratic party is where they should be, IMO.

And the field of VP candidates is not as limited as you make it out to be - another strawman.

And your condescending litle 'Go research it' is, honestly, beneath you. I'm trying to have a good-faith conversation here and I trust that you are as well.

But if you'd rather trade snark and insults, say the word. I can do that, too.

- as

[Radio_Lady]

45. This is such a bag of sleaze that I am just going to demure to your immensely superior knowledge.

The density of it is just too overwhelming. The logic is specious. You are someone who cannot see the forest for the trees. I've met people like that before (a lot of them rightcheer) and it's just too down and rotten to the core.

"My Gawd, I think I'm coming down with a case of the vapors." {{Radio Lady exits this particular fray, only to return another day.}}

Officially, please see my position on this whole race. Good night and good luck, AS Well named, by the way.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Radio_Lady/238

[americanstranger]

54. Ah. snark it is.

Pity. I thought you were better than that. Okay.

Where is my logic specious? Explain to me how Hillary was somehow guaranteed the nomination (which she lost) or the VP post (which she single-handedly destroyed her own chances of getting)?

Give me a source that proves your contention that 16 million Democratic voters will turn their backs on their own party and follow a candidate who has lost the primary race by every rational metric.

And tell me that you honestly disagree with my contention that had Clinton run a cleaner campaign, there wouldn't be such ill will toward her at this point.

Or, snark away instead. Your choice. But willingnees to engage in a serious discussion reveals a lot about a person's intellect, or lack of it.

(And cute name snark, too. You must be great fun at parties - I'm sure the bridge club is enthralled with your rapier wit.)

- as

[TahitiNut]

86. It's because she's a woman, huh?

[Mooney]

8. She's not going anywhere.

Why would she drop out now?

[AllentownJake]

18. The fallout

from the SD are going to be bad for her.

The last Gaffe started the flood after Indiana and NC.

[Mooney]

34. She's not going anywhere. Really.

Why would she suddenly develop dignity now?

[Radio_Lady]

40. Death with dignity... we have that in Oregon. Choose your poison!

It ends with a dead person if used.

As far as I know, she will still be a sitting NY state senator when this is over.

Cheers!

Radio Lady in Oregon

[earthlover]

72. yeah, if she is not assassinated....sarc

[The River]

22. It's Positively Shakespearean

This is more of a " A Midsummer Nights Nightmare" for our modern day
Lady Macbeth than her lifelong dream ending.
I'm sure it will make an interesting TV movie someday.
Remind me to miss it.

[Radio_Lady]

31. How very dramatic of you! Naw, I think it's more like the Hatfields and the McCoys.

Not Shakespearean at all.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

61. The cast:

Hillary- Hillary Duff
Bill- Ian Ziering
...

I can't continue, I'm laughing too hard!

[The River]

73. LOL

"The Chappaqua Hillbillaries"

[Starwars Hillary]

70. She's "going out" on a trumped up media outrage!

Which is how the damn primary began. See "Fairy tale" is racist.

[ProSense]

2. Anyone, Hillary or Obama supporters or RFK, Jr., defending Hillary

for her assassination comment and lousy attempt at an apology are defending the indefensible

Her comment was career-damaging. I heard one pundit, the only one defending her, use the excuse that she is tired. If she is prone to repeated lapses of judgment when tired, then she should not be running for president.

[thewiseguy]

11. She was also tired when she talked about her Tuzla experience

[Radio_Lady]

33. Obama must have been tired listening to all those Rev. Wright sermons and ceremonies...

He can't reject his Pastor-mentor any more than he can reject his grandmother!

Hey, don't you realize?

Sleaze for both sides is prevalent all around!

Can't you just feel it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfield-McCoy_feud

[thewiseguy]

35. Your post has nothing to do with the OP. Desperate much?

[ampad]

47. What the hay?

Seriously, are you serious

Listen folks this is when you know that this has sunk Hillary. The resurrection of Rev. Wright, totally out of context of this thread and this entire situation. First of all sleaze from both sides does not make the current sleaze thrower the better person. Second of all, what came out of Rev. Wright's mouth came out of his mouth not Obama's. What is Hillary's excuse? Did someone other than Hillary make the assassination comment? Does Hillary have an evil twin we need to know about? I mean I don't get it. She says she is better than Obama, she is the better person to be the nominee. If Hillary is the better person then she should know better than to stoop to this level but of course she does not know better because she is no better. She isn't even fit to sit for the Senate considering the crap she spews when she is under pressure. To bring up Rev. Wright at this point is beyond desperate because this is apples to oranges. You would think that if Rev. Wright was such a bad person (whom Obama sat and listen to spew hate for 20 some odd years) that Obama would be the one making nasty comments about folks dying but look who it is. Also do you have a copy of all the sermons Rev. Wright gave over the last 20 yrs? Do any of you that keep bringing up Wright have any proof whatsoever that the man made nasty comments throughout his entire 20yrs of service to the church, or are you assuming? Really to bring up Wright after all this is beyond silly.

[tishaLA]

71. As always,

her logic is specious.

But if you're lucky, she'll post one insult, which will get deleted, and she'll post another one in hopes that it will get past the mods. That's the MO.

[earthlover]

75. And this bullshitter bragged about being ready at 3AM!!!! What a HOOT!

And she is not tired then?

Know what is tired? Hillary in this race. Getting more and more tired every day.

[Cha]

44. Yeah, hilary found herself under Bosnian Sniper Fire, too,

'cause she was "tired". And, all the other lies she told..next we'll be hearing she's got sleeping sickness.

"Why Hillary’s Lies are Important"

- March 24, 2008, 9:53PM
Hillary Clinton has been caught in a series of lies and misrepresentations during the primary campaign. To some of her supporters, these lies may seem trivial and insignificant and even politics-as-usual. However, please consider the serious impact of these lies by placing them in the context of the past seven years of the Bush Administration and the legacy of expanded executive power that he leaves behind. In particular, consider the dangerous message that the Clinton campaign sends by employing similar tactics to achieve her political goals.

1. The Florida and Michigan Primaries / The Delegate Count
Hillary agreed to honor the DNC’s decision to strip Florida and Michigan of its delegates after their primaries were moved up into January in express violation of the DNC rules. She did not change her position on the validity of these primaries until she found herself unexpectedly behind in the delegate count and desperately needed to claim the delegates that she had won in these unsanctioned contests. As her chances of winning the nomination became increasingly slim in recent weeks, we have been presented with threatening and desperate lines of reasoning for why these primary results should count as is. At the same time, Clinton and her surrogates continue to propose different metrics for determining who should win the nomination even though there is and has been a clearly defined process in place for several decades.

Please think about the implications of changing election rules after the fact. We have suffered through at least one stolen presidential election and the manipulation of untold numbers of Congressional and state elections through various vote tampering and voter intimidation schemes used by the Republicans and their allies. The American people (and especially Democratic voters) have lost faith in the integrity of the election process. The Clinton strategy to continually change the rules for determining the Democratic Party nominee sets a dangerous precedent that could lead to increasingly un-Democratic elections in the future if it is allowed to succeed. If anything, we need more transparency and methods of accountability in our elections in order to repair the damage done in recent years and to restore our confidence in the Government.

2. The Bosnia Fabrication / Exaggerated Experience Claims
Hillary fabricated a story about a dangerous, life-risking visit to Bosnia in order to gain stature as an experienced negotiator in international conflicts and war. While this type of embellishment can seem almost comical, it represents a willingness to distort reality in order to influence the public perception. This is the same type of distortion that the Bush administration used to justify the war in Iraq, although the magnitude of the lie is certainly on a different scale. The Bush administration falsified reports, cherry-picked intelligence, used unreliable sources, and employed fear-mongering tactics to convince the American public that our safety was at risk and as such, you were either with us or with the terrorists. The lies used by President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are impeachable offenses and should be condemned by all Americans. Sadly, the Clinton campaign seems to have shown a shocking willingness to employ the same tactics to create a more favorable reality and to rely on divide-and-conquer rhetoric to weaken opposition. Her attempts to frighten the American people by conjuring up 3 AM phone calls are bad enough, but her vote of confidence in John McCain over Barack Obama should be seen as treason against the Democratic Party.

3. NAFTA
Hillary lied about her position on NAFTA and used her lies in a calculated way to influence the Ohio primary. Recently released White House documents confirm that Hillary had been an active proponent of NAFTA prior to its passage, and she has continued to support it publicly in her speeches and memoir. However, while campaigning in Ohio, she claimed to have been privately against NAFTA during the Clinton presidency and believes that it should be rewritten to protect American jobs and workers. This type of maneuvering is reminiscent of the behind-closed-doors policy-making that the Bush administration has used during the past seven years. Specifically, Bush and Cheney have made policy decisions without providing transparency to Congress or the public, and President Bush has repeatedly ignored the rule of law by issuing signing statements and disregarding the parts of the laws that he doesn’t agree with. If we cannot trust Hillary to be truthful about her positions on critical legislative issues now, how can we trust that she will be truthful as president?

These are just three examples that illustrate the concerns we should have with a candidate who demonstrates a sense of entitlement to the nomination and is willing to lie, misrepresent, threaten, and divide in order to obtain the nomination. President Bush and the neoconservative movement have greatly harmed this country by the creation of an imperial-like presidency. This election is not just about whether a Democrat or Republican wins but if the checks and balances are restored to the three branches of government. The framers of the Constitution were in such fear of an imperial president that mechanisms for impeachment are prominently and explicitly included in the Constitution. If Hillary Clinton is willing to use lies and deceit to win the Democratic nomination, what assurances do we have that she will not continue to use them once she is president?
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/why-h ...

<snip>

"Her response to being caught lying to a military audience, when she invented a story about being under sniper fire in Bosnia, was to say it wasn't surprising she got some things wrong, seeing how she spoke millions of words every day. What a magnificent idea, that if you say lots of words some of them are bound to be fantastic lies. So if you listen carefully to horse-racing commentators they say things like "And it's Teddy's Boy still leading three furlongs out as they come up to the fourth last fence with Nip and Tuck two lengths behind by the way I fought a tiger once, punched it clean out and they're all safely over."


<lots more>
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/opinion/article3 ...

"It's not that lying to pad the resume, avoid Indictment or to advance her political fortune is anything new for Hillary Clinton. She famously said she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary (debunked); she told New Yorkers she was a Yankee fan when she lived in Chicago (debunked); she told rural New Yorkers that she was a "duck hunter" (debunked); she claimed that her daughter Chelsea was jogging around the World Trade Center at the time of the 9/11 attack (debunked by Chelsea herself.) And, those subpoenaed Rose Law billing records just happened to show up one day on a hallway table in the most monitored home in America!"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Radio_Lady]

46. Zidzi, it's really time for you and your kin to stop repeating and repeating and repeating...

the same old thing over and over.

Oh, but something new was added today.

Let's dwell on that.

I am totally bored. The Hillary supporters who LEFT this site were probably smarter than I am. That can be remedied........>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Good night and good luck.

[thewiseguy]

48. Says the person who first posted something irrelevant to the OP!

You were pretty much repeating a story that has been covered extensively. Follow your own advice sometime.

[Cha]

57. Bye stupid hilary apologist

don't let the fucking door slam ya.

[Starwars Hillary]

80. It's indefensible only if one assumes she meant what you desperately WANT her to mean

instead of what she actually meant. It's indefensible that so many people want her to mean "something can happen like an assassination" instead of "primaries often go to June, here are 2 examples".

Big gulf between want and reality. An indefensible gulf.

[Name removed]

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[Radio_Lady]

6. Are you calling out someone from another thread? Not done here, PeterPancake.

[Joe the Revelator]

10. I'm sorry, but you are the LAST person who should be playing wanna-be MOD

[Radio_Lady]

15. Hey, I'm just the last person who happens to be standing here tonight!

I am certainly not playing moderator. Just point out the rules. I don't even know who he is attacking or for what!

That's what we have moderators for. I simply don't have the time requirements to apply to be a mod. That's due to my schedule.

So, who are you and what do you stand for? In this case, "know thy enemy."

Good night and good luck.

[tishaLA]

5. It's almost pitiable

Except that she has been building to this crescendo for a while now.

[Radio_Lady]

36. That, of course, is a very subjective opinion. So, she started out OK and then she subsequently...

ruined herself with more and more flagrant UP-rages (that's like out-rages, but building to a peak)? Like a crescendo?

No one else was involved except Hillary?

Get over this kind of invented logic.

Cordially,

Radio Lady

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfield-McCoy_feud

[tishaLA]

43. no. a crescendo means she has been building up to it

Get over your lack of a dictionary.

Cordially,

[Radio_Lady]

49. My on-line dictionary is right here:

http://www.m-w.com

Edited to fulfill your grammatical wishes!

Respectfully, RL

[WA98296]

9. Can anyone image an uncomitted SD getting behind her now?

[AllentownJake]

12. They are relieved

They have cover.

[WA98296]

26. I bet so, she's opened the door wide and is shoving them through

[liberalhistorian]

13. I don't believe it was a "poorly chosen example" at all.

I think she knew exactly what she was saying and doing. She probably thought she could get away with it yet again by issuing yet another "regret" and "apology". But it likely may have just been the last straw. There are only so many times you can get away with such a strategy.

[thewiseguy]

23. She got away with it once and she went back to it again today

MSM was not going to let her have a free pass this time.

[chill_wind]

51. She referenced RFK in March and again (twice) on May 7. *Before* Ted Kennedy's illness struck.

Nothing random in her thought pattern, at that rate--- she's brought his example up at least 4 documented times as her argument, per the journalists on K.O. And to try to use his only very recent illness (Ted Kennedy's) to dismiss her remarks as the source of her preoccupation and choice of examples is obscenely transparant.

[apocalypsehow]

14. *Kick*

[Mme. Defarge]

19. Let me add ...

Tonya, we apologize for the comparison.

[BenDavid]

21. These same mediawhores did not hardly utter a word back

several months when she made the same comparison about how long a campaign can last. Now, since we all know the whoremedia is so far up obambi's ass that if he got the runs, they would too, would come out and load the airwaves and print slamming HRC for basically the same comments she had made earlier...

Oh how I enjoy watching those led by the nose by the whoremedia in helping you decide that obambi is a far better candidate then HRC. It is funny to see this happening to people that I thought made up their own minds, but I guess you have to have help from those mediawhores.....

oh and I bet you will not make any comment made by this crazy bastard Fineman, that says basically that HRC should be put out of her misery....uh huh he too is saying what you folks are saying that hrc said.

To me it is total bullshit and any right thinking person with common sense would know it was a comparison about how long a campaign can go on. As Robert kennedy Jr said, " I have heard her make this refernce before.....but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense"....

So if the namesake is not upset about it, then maybe you all should chill until the next talking head mediawhore comes on the screen and convinces you all over again that HRC is calling for the assassination of someone.....

L-rd, HELP!

Shalom
Ben David

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[stevietheman]

27. What do you want on your tombstone, as they say?

That anyone would defend Hillary at this point is unfathomable and rather abominable.

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[OzarkDem]

28. Huffpo quoting Sully & Fineman?

My, they certainly are desperate.

[ccharles000]

29. Washington Post calls it "At best a poorly chosen example".

I agree with this. She was just providing examples of past campaigns that lasted until early summer. It was nothing more than that. She should have used a different example but there was no wrong.

[Cha]

30. Gotta Love Andrew Sullivan!

I wish.

[QC]

42. And Sully does know an implosion when he sees one,

thanks to his own bareback scandal.

[apocalypsehow]

64. Nothing quite like a little rancid homophobia to put a spring in your step, now is there?

:eyes:

[QC]

68. Sorry, I'm not the homophobe here, just one of those garden variety homos...

that Sully got rich by trashing as sex-crazed, filthy perverts while he was secretly cruising barebackcity.com.

It is touching, though, to see that you are so sensitive to homophobia, and more than a little interesting that I've never seen you address the subject before, though, until it was necessary to defend some right wing asshole.

Tell Donnie I said hi.

[apocalypsehow]

74. Bigotry against GLBT folks is wrong, whether they be "right wing assholes" or not. I find it very

disturbing. :thumbsdown:

[QC]

76. It's not bigotry to call a hypocrite a hypocrite.

Do you have even the slightest idea of Sully's history on this issue and others, such as his promotion of racist pseudoscience, or his accusations of treason against liberals in the aftermath of 9/11? Or are you just enamored of him because he happens to say nice things about your candidate?

[apocalypsehow]

77. I have zero info on Andrew Sullivan's "history" on this topic. I just know he supports Senator Obama

so I check out his blog at The Atlantic from time to time. Try to dislike him for his opinions, not his sexual orientation. That's all I'm saying :shrug: .

[QC]

81. Yes, it's pretty clear that you know nothing about him.

But, of course, all that matters is that he says nice things about Obama. That means he must surely be a good person, right?

You really should educate yourself about Sully before you go running around defending him. If you are at all progressive, then he is most assuredly not a person you would want to be identified with. I mean this in all sincerity. He is no progressive.

[apocalypsehow]

84. Okay, I'm game. Can you point me in the right direction? n/t.

[QC]

87. Certainly. Here is some info:

Sully, when he was editor of The New Republic, devoted most of an issue to promoting The Bell Curve, a notoriously racist book. Here's FAIR's take on that: http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1271

Sully insists that pushing that book is one of his proudest moments; he's what he said less than three years ago:

One of my proudest moments in journalism was publishing an expanded extract of a chapter from "The Bell Curve" in the New Republic before anyone else dared touch it. I published it along with multiple critiques (hey, I believed magazines were supposed to open rather than close debates) - but the book held up, and still holds up as one of the most insightful and careful of the last decade. The fact of human inequality and the subtle and complex differences between various manifestations of being human - gay, straight, male, female, black, Asian - is a subject worth exploring, period. Liberalism's commitment to political and moral equality for all citizens and human beings is not and should not be threatened by empirical research into human difference and varied inequality. And the fact that so many liberals are determined instead to prevent and stigmatize free research and debate on this subject is evidence ... well, that they have ceased to be liberals in the classic sense. I'm still proud to claim that label - classical liberal. And I'm proud of those with the courage to speak truth to power, as Murray and Herrnstein so painstakingly did. http://www.slate.com/id/2128199/

Interesting article in The Nation: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20010618/kim20010605

Richard Goldstein in The Village Voice: http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0125,goldstein,25701,1.html

Here is Sully writing just after 9/11, back when he was George W.'s most enthusiastic votarie and baying for blood: The middle part of the country - the great red zone that voted for Bush - is clearly ready for war. The decadent Left in its enclaves on the coasts is not dead - and may well mount what amounts to a fifth column. http://tinyurl.com/56ce3g

This is enough to get you started. Honestly, I do wish that more people here knew these things, because if horrifies me to see Sullivan made into some kind of progressive hero.

Have a great night!

[apocalypsehow]

88. Thank you very much for the links - I'm going to bookmark this thread and read through them over the

weekend (My wife has just given me the "final warning" look across the living room about logging off the computer for the night, LOL).

Have a great holiday weekend, and good night.

[Cha]

37. Isn't this hilary supporter just a little ray of sunshine?...

"Today, in Dover, Francine Torge, a former John Edwards supporter, said this while introducing Mrs. Clinton: "Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated. And Lyndon Baines Johnson was the one who actually" passed the civil rights legislation...."

Sounds as dumb a fucking bag of slugs.

[thewiseguy]

41. What a dumbass...You can see the pattern.

[Forkboy]

38. Orton is the one who nails it.

And that's what too many of her supporters either don't get, or don't want to get.

[Cha]

50. I'm having trouble finding

that one "Orton" you speak of?

[thewiseguy]

52. link here:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/23/171038/941

[Cha]

58. Thanks

Sorry, I missed it:silly:

[apocalypsehow]

65. Thanks for the link - he nailed it! n/t.

[Forkboy]

55. From the OP

Orton from Mydd: "But we also cannot divorce her comments from her public stature, her intelligence, her responsibility as a leader, or our history."

[Cha]

59. And I even read that, too.. The

Orton didn't register:silly:

Exactly right.

[americanstranger]

60. Pro-Clinton blogs are getting cold feet.

Steve Soto at The Left Coaster:

Senator, it's time to go. Now.

Sure, many people are giving you the benefit of the doubt, saying that certainly you didn't mean to suggest that you need to stay in the race in case something sad happens to Barack Obama. Others are saying that you must have been tired at the back end of a long campaign. Sorry, no sale. Because today's disaster isn't simply a gaffe from a tired candidate; she mentioned a potential asassination to justify a continued candidacy months ago to Time magazine. Well, others may be willing to give you a pass, but I am not. And I was one of your earliest supporters. You may recall that I endorsed Hillary because of her smarts, judgment, and demeanor. And all of these things have been gone from her and her campaign for a while now.

There is no reason or justification whatsoever to mention the word assassination at all, especially given this country's sad political history, after you have spent weeks talking about the white vote, and three days after RFK's brother basically found out he has months to live. Sure, Olbermann was damn near hysterical in his delivery tonight, but that doesn't make what he said wrong.

Why would any remaining superdelegate endorse you now? Your judgment and decency have left you.

Before you offer another lame mea culpa and say something else stupid, trashing any remaining legacy you have left, get out please.

Now.

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/012574.php

---

- as

[Swamp Rat]

63. I won't defend the Clintons ever again.

Their reign is over.

[ruby slippers]

53. now the superdelegates need to fall in line, too......

if not, they approve and they are just as mentally unstable.

[jillan]

56. Arianna must be having orgasms over this.

She has been waiting for an explosive Hillary moment.

[NewHampshireDem]

66. Wow, Hillary is in the race ...

to the bottom. I can't tell who's in the lead though--you or she.

[Swamp Rat]

62. Hillary's campaign is kaput.

Hopefully her political career too... and I hope she sinks the DLC.

[Cha]

79. hilary and bil are the dlc..

so bruce reed and al from will have to find a new face since this primary has given bilary too much rope. Maybe harold ford jr is up for it?

[Blondiegrrl]

67. Wait ... WHAT???

How did I overlook this little gem?

Today, in Dover, Francine Torge, a former John Edwards supporter, said this while introducing Mrs. Clinton: "Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated. And Lyndon Baines Johnson was the one who actually" passed the civil rights legislation....

WTF is wrong with these people?

[Kool Kitty]

83. I know. I went back and reread that post three times.

When was this said? I mean, what the fuck?

[texshelters]

82. At best, it was a poorly chosen example;

at worst, is was an unconscious gaff out of sheer frustration.

Tex Shelters

[kevinmc]

85. Way to go Hillary really going out in style. You will be the butt of jokes for a generation. n/t