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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:15 PM
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Why Do Hillary Supporters Keep Threatening She Has 17 Million
people who will not vote for Obama?

Do they really believe that all 17 million will stay home or vote McCain?

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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:17 PM
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1. Fear and threats have become her M.O. apparently. n/t
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:19 PM
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2. They believe she has total and complete mind control of 17 million people. They do her
bidding.
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:19 PM
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3. Mebbe they've got guns and heard the dog whistle!?!
Hillary, look in the mirror. It's time to step off and go on a loooong vacation.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:19 PM
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4. They seem to think those votes are not transferable.
And they also seem to assume that those 17 million are more loyal to Hillary Clinton than the Democratic party and its nominee.

And they call Obama supporters cult-like.

- as
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:20 PM
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5. FEAR and SMEAR is all that HRC's got at this point. eom
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:21 PM
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6. Im not threatened at all
Let them stay home
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:31 PM
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7. After today, few of those '17 million' will admit to having voted for her.
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jbm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:46 PM
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9. I voted for her, and these 'pretend outrages' are just the Obama crowd..
trying to convince themselves that they didn't really screw up as badly as they did. Instead of picking the candidate that could have actually won the election , and had the experience to save the country, you voted for the clueless guy who can't possibly win the GE.

The only way you can save face at this point, is if you can convince everybody else to suspend all intelligent thought, and dive off the cliff with you. That way 'we're all in this together', and we can all be 'fake outraged' again when McCain wins by a HUGE landslide in November.

Sorry Obamabots-you made this disaster and you're in it all alone. No amount of "OMG, Look how bad she is now" nonsense is going to change reality.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:50 PM
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10. Not having a crazed person as president
still seems like a good decision.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:06 AM
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12. What is the matter with you?
If she can't win the primary, she can't win the GE, PERIOD! And all of this salivating over a suposed mccain "landslide" in November, it's like a can hear you heavy breathing just praying for that to happen, well guess what, it's not gonna happen...
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jbm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:22 AM
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13. well, since you said PERIOD in big letters...
that changes everything!

Your version of how elections work is flawed though. Many of Obamas delegates came from states whose electoral votes will go Repub in November. He also won delegates in states that awarded their votes through a caucus. A caucus is usually attended by certain segments of voters that aren't representative of the real demographics of the state. Hillary won by large margins the states that will be Dem states in November. Exit polling showed that many of her voters won't switch to Obama, so he can't count on those states in November. Realistic analysis shows him losing badly, but the same analysis has Hillary pulling out a win. The GE is nothing at all like the primary. When you pull the GE red states out of the mix, and use a more reasonable demographics projection for the caucus areas, Obama has a HUGE problem. (Since I used big letters, that makes the statement really important).
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:40 AM
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15. I'm not freaking five....
and the polls have been all over the place for all three candidates, but since you are so well informed, I suppose you know that and choose to ignore it because it doesn't fit your "Hillary is the light and the savior" meme. Face it, it's over, vote for whomever you choose, but your choices will be limited to Obama and McCain. If there was any doubt before hillary jumped the shark with the ridiculous RFK gaffe, I would say we can put that to rest now...

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:38 AM
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14. Thank you.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:52 AM
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20. Don't recent polls show that if Calif primary was coming in June she would lose it?
Lots of buyers' remorse out there and that was BEFORE her stunt today. She does not have the support she had before. It is evaporating.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:34 PM
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8. I am really tired of hearing this threat.
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Midwestern Democrat Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:02 AM
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11. Their threats have totally alienated me - I was an Edwards supporter who
switched to Hillary after Edwards dropped out, and the large number of Hillary supporters (including some I know personally) who've played the "I'm staying home/voting McCain" card have totally turned me off. I think every reasonable effort should be made to keep them in the fold, but if that fails - well, whatever happens happens.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:43 AM
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16. She hasn't got 17 million of anything, really
this is like the 10 million she "raised" in one day after Pa.

It's all bullshit. bluster, smoke and mirrors. And sexism of course....

She has no style
no class
no redeeming features as a candidate.

She's toast.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:46 AM
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17. Now her "money people" have threatened that if she's not the VP at least..
then their big pocket donors might not donate to Obama.

Don't these Dinosaurs know that Obama has raised more money than them from the little people. Millions of people sending in $20 or $50 or whatever they can because they see some hope. People who are sending money because the see a candidate who isn't beholden to Big Oil, Big Pharma or the insurance and credit industries.

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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:46 AM
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18. That is how they operate. Wedge.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:52 AM
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19. because, like Pat Buchanan always says.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 01:09 AM by ErinBerin84
(in appropriate Pat caps) "SHE HAS AN ARMY OF 17 MILLION!" An army? Also, anyone catch the lovely defense of Hillary Clinton mounted by TONY PERKINS tonight on CNN? The GOP lapdogs becoming the biggest Hillary cheerleaders has been one of the more amusing developments of this entire primary. For that alone, I'm grateful that she didn't lose in NH.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:55 AM
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21. I don't get what makes it HER 'army.'
Big deal, they voted for her in the primary.

Does anyone honestly believe that 17 million Democrats are going to leave the party for a candidate who got her ass whupped in the primaries?

I really don't get it.

- as
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:57 AM
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22. haha. according to Pat Buchanan.
I'm sure he has the best of manipulative intentions.
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iconicgnom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:05 AM
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23. Back atcha. It's not "Hillary supporters"

It's a small group of snivelers. I say "sniveler" because that motif has gone on far too long, now. It's a bit like tantrum time during the terrible twos.

But not all Hillary supporters are snivelers. E.g. RFK Jr. is a strong Hillary supporter and he isn't a sniveler, and not just by coincidence he doesn't threaten anything against Dems, either. Or claim that people who criticize Hillary are all "Hillary haters" (tho' there are people who incite hate, on every side). Hillary's supporters are fairly quiet lately, for fairly obvious reasons - but that doesn't mean that they don't exist. It doesn't mean that they've lost any of their enthusiasm for Hillary's politics, her ideas. There's no contradiction whatever in being a supporter of the ideas that Hillary wants to bring into being (which is what being a Hillary supporter really means), and being a supporter of Obama if Obama should win, which it's fairly obvious will be the case. There's no reason whatsoever why they should turn away from Hillary if Obama wins, any more than a Kucinch supporter need turn away from Kucinch.

When every 2nd thread sports gross overgeneralizations it's time for everyone to stand down and reassess the present moment.
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