Admit it people, Clinton made a mistake.

[texshelters]

Most Clinton supporters and many Obama supporters can’t admit their candidate made a mistake and show a lack of maturity I don't expect to see from adults. Clinton made a mistake and said something very distasteful when she talked about staying in the election. To mention RFK, June, and assassination in the same statement, at this point in the election, is unfortunate at best. Her lack of skills as a campaigner at times is unfortunate. I don't believe it was intentional, but perhaps there was some unconscious desire coming through. I don't know. The fact of the matter is, she said those words.

So, instead of defending the comments of your beloved candidate, how about admitting it was a poor choice of words. Here's how it works:

1. Obama made a mistake when he said, "clinging to guns and religion”. A better choice of words would be "people are afraid and we need to give them something to fight for and look up to”.

2. Obama made a gaff when he said "sweetie" to a reporter. He needs to be careful.

3. Obama shouldn't have mentioned "Clinton having tea parties".

4. Reverend Wright is a fool who said somethings that are true and I am glad Obama finally distanced himself.

See? It's not so hard. Try this, "Clinton misspoke, it was unfortunate, and no one wants harm to come to any candidate. I am sure she's sorry and regrets her words."

See, it's not so hard. Now you try it.

Tex Shelters

[David Dunham]

1. Yes, she made a mistake but it is playing horribly in the media.

[anonymous171]

2. Kind of like Bittergate?

[The Wielding Truth]

22. His gaffes don't seem however to threaten anyone's life.

[ossman]

3. Why do her "tired" moments always include gunfire violence? Snipers and Assasinations?

[greenvpi]

16. Same reason she is pro-gun and not pro-safety

She's a little too violent, and it comes-out when she's tired.

[JVS]

40. because she's disturbed

[Jawja]

47. and annihilations....

eom.

[yardwork]

55. lol! And a very good question...

[Rosa Luxemburg]

56. she tends to misspeak on the same subject several times

you could forgive one time thinking that she was tired. She does it over and over again thinking that people are not watching.

A President cannot be simply tired.

[Cant trust em]

4. Clinton has been pissing me off for a while now, but I'm going to let this lie.

[doublethink]

5. Again it's not a mater of misspeaking when it isn't the first time she said it !!!

Just as the Bosnia sniper fire b.s. wasn't a misstatement .... neither is this .....

here : http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6096452

[ossman]

7. how dare you quote reality. What is a u-toob?

[Starwars Hillary]

8. She clarified the JUNE part in her earlier statements

This "she said it before" tripe is meaningless.

That exonerates her because it clarifies her point about the normality of a late primary.

[BlooInBloo]

15. Welcome! Enjoy your stay!

[doublethink]

20. The Op claimed this one incident today was a 'misstatement'.

That is proven wrong in the link I provided. Your exoneration of the Hillary in this is what's meaningless. But welcome to DU ... I feel the dark side of the force is strong with this one ......

[texshelters]

24. Hello? Why use RFK assasination? That is not explainable.

Why not admit it was a mistake. Why is it so hard. This reminds me of Bush.

Tex Shelters

[Jawja]

48. No, not meaningless.

There are other examples she could cite for a Democratic Primary going into June or July or to the Convention, even. But in choosing to use Bobby Kennedy as an example, she has pointedly referred to his ASSASSINATION in June in California on more than one occasion.

Why bring the dark truth of ASSASSINATION into the argument?

I would give her a pass on it if her surrogates had not been making the case for her by using the "something could happen" talking point as justification for a prolonged presence in a race she cannot win.

[Tribetime]

6. If she would have apologized fully and quickly

to all she offended, and realized the outrage that would follow, maybe she could of really softened the blow. Not to say "IF" I offended anyone, and not even mention Obama or his wife and children, or the King family also.

[ShortnFiery]

9. No comparison to Obama's gaffes. Clinton "stepped on it" - a mistake of HISTORIC proportions. eom

[StevieM]

10. Actually, both of them were perfectly clear. Clinton was clearly referencing June and the race

lasting that long. And Obama was clearly making an evaluation of small-town people.

Steve

[ossman]

12. Obama wanted to kill small town people? What does June have to do with killing someone?

[texshelters]

25. June, the race and "assasination."

Are people afraid to mention that word?

Tex Shelters

[Jawja]

49. No, not afraid.

Just wondering why a candidate who can't win would refer to it on more than one occasion in her argument on why she should stay in.

With other good examples of a Primary race going late into the Summer or all the way to the Convention, why use Bobby Kennedy and ASSASSINATION?

[Higher Standard]

43. Perfectly clear?

Hillary probably was just trying to reference June. However, rather than say "Bobby Kennedy won California in June of 1968" what came out of her mouth was that he was assassinated in June 1968. No reference to his campaign at all. You can't possibly say that it was "perfectly clear". The only way that would be perfectly clear is if her intent was exactly what Keith Olbermann was saying it was last night.

[Jawja]

50. And the fact that her surrogates have been

using the "something could happen" talking point as a justification for her staying in the race when she can't win.

[NanceGreggs]

11. Yes, of course ...

... I can see the immediate comparison between calling someone "sweetie" and conjuring up the image of the assassination of a presidential nominee in the middle of a campaign.

Why, they're so similar, I don't know why anyone would be any more upset over one than the other.

Jesus H. Christ, get a clue.

[texshelters]

26. You missed the point Nance

I was not comparing the comments, I was use that as an example of admitting a mistake.

So, do not be an intolerant progressive and read it again.

Tex Shelters

[NanceGreggs]

33. No, I don't think I missed the point at all.

Your "examples of admitting a mistake" don't fly. Sorry.

The minute you put a reference to assassination and calling someone "sweetie" in the same grouping, it is YOU who have obviously missed the point.

[Starwars Hillary]

13. This one is completely bogus,

Sniper Fire was wrong obviously, but this one is absolute crap. She didn't mean anything close to what has been attributed to her. Not even freakin close.

This is "fairy tale is racist" all over again. Complete crap.

It tells me the pro Obama media wants her out before something "real" occurs.

[ginnyinWI]

18. Even Hillary knows she made a big mistake.

Look at the expression on her face and listen to the tone of her voice at the grocery store where she sort-of apologized and it's obvious. I say sort-of because it ran along the lines of "I'm sorry that you were offended" which is not a heart-felt apology. But she knows it was a big mistake politically. They call it touching the third rail.

This one is substantial--not absolute crap, and she has little time left to make up for it.

And calling the media pro-Obama doesn't make it true.

[Jawja]

52. She knows it probably cost her a spot

on the ticket as VP.

[Kool Kitty]

29. I think that what she said was monumentally stupid,

I don't think she wants anyone assassinated. I have a question about the last line in your post: "It tells me the pro-Obama media wants her out before something "real" occurs." What do you mean?

[Heather MC]

31. I guess you really don't understand why what she said was so scary.

I have to ask why that particalur Primary, there are several other examples she could site. and why in that way. She has made the statement 3 other times. The first time she used the A-word, the other 2 times she left it out. And now she decided in her "tour of desparation" to use it again

And the mere fact that she herself has lived with Secret service since 1992, should make her want to stay as far away from that word as possible.

I mean if she doesn't think she lives with a risk of being Assassinated, why doesn't she suspend her Secret Service detail and save the tax payers some money?

Because she knows the risk is real, that's why. and that what makes what she said all the more worst. Since her husband was the president, she herself has had to live everyday as if someone might kill her. For me that's what makes this most unforgivable SHE KNOWS BETTER.

And she doesn't just put Obama at risk, she puts Obama, his family, McCain his family, and even yes even herself and her family at risk, by being the one planting the seed.
So SHAME ON YOU HILLARY CLINTON

[AuntPatsy]

37. It would probaly help if you explain what she did mean?

[ccharles000]

14. I admit that she made a mistake.

She should have used other examples. But she does not want Obama assassinated.

[texshelters]

27. I agree

she doesn't want him to be killed. She wants him to lose somehow...

Tex Shelters

[Life Long Dem]

17. When you make

mistake after mistake people draw a line.

You have her making mistakes in this election.

The most recent one, and the rules she shouldn't have signed are two.

That's just the election.

Then there is the Iraq war.

Call it mistake after mistake, but we know what a fake she can be.

[Patsy Stone]

19. Funny thing about Bittergate, though

It's an example of how good Obama is at correcting his mistakes while not giving up on the point he was trying to make. What he meant by the statement the media blew out of proportion was that when a party, like the Republicans, who have nothing new to offer but want to win do so by splitting the electorate on passionate wedge issues (i.e. God, guns and gays) people suffer. They become distrustful of the government as none of their needs are met, their interests remain unserved, and they wake to the realization they were used, their basic beliefs were exploited, and they have been forgotten (read: bitter).

He's taken that theme and re-written it, and it comprises a good bit of his stump speech and receives cheers from the crowd. He's done it so well the media doesn't even realize he's saying the same thing because of the way he's phrasing it. So what began as one of the biggest gaffes of all time is now an asset.

Moral: Americans aren't stupid, some of this is just media bullshit.

[Whisp]

21. it was not a mistake,

the asshole knows exactly was she is doing.
fortunately there are non-assholes to follow her than she expects to by her dirty shit talk.

[sandnsea]

23. Hey sweetie, it's June Assassination time!

Yeah, references to political assassinations and calling someone "sweetie" is totally the same thing.

[texshelters]

28. I was comparing them to make a point

about how to apologize. I wasn't saying they were the same thing. I was saying they were mistakes without comparing.

Try reading more carefully before judging.

Thanks!

Tex Shelters

[ShortnFiery]

30. That's the problem with HRC - Like Bush, she NEVER truly apologizes. That's fucking WRONG.

We don't need another sociopath in the WH. :nuke:

[sandnsea]

32. Like Hillary was comparing

a 2008 campaign calendar to a 1968 assassination. Yeah, I see.

No, you aren't going to get away with pretending they're all just one big pile of "gaffes", because they're not. The things she says are horrific and intended to inflame fears and hatred. His aren't.

[texshelters]

54. That is not what I was comparing at all

I was trying to explain to Clinton supporters that Clinton was wrong and one can admit it, so I chose things where I felt Obama made mistakes. You are correct, they aren't comparable, that is what makes the Clinton supporters so far out of line.

To admit Obama made some mistakes is not to excuse Clinton at all. I am sorry you read it that way. If you read other comments I made about Clinton's "gaff" you might see where I stand about that one issue. This was about admitting your candidate was wrong.

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[pointsoflight]

34. Problem is, she won't even say that.

In her supposed apology, she does not acknowledge saying anything wrong or inappropriate, she defends her statement, and in fact, she questions the motives of those who are being critical of it.

SHE won't even say she made a mistake!

[AuntPatsy]

35. Personaly I half agree with Obama, people do cling to thier religious

beliefs sometimes to strongly that can leave them having a hard time in thinking clearly about certain issues that involve other citizens of this country and the unfairness blows me away...

I don't believe calling someone sweetie is all that bad either, people should get a grip...

and i don't believe that Hillary wishes Obama any harm regardless of her desire to win

But I do question some of their choices who they have gotten cozy with.

[formercia]

36. When one is President there is little room for mistakes.

At that pay grade, little mistakes can have grave consequences.

Hillary has the ability to piss off people that don't even know her.

There is a big difference from signing off on the White House Weekly menu and having control of the 'Football.'

Hillary Clinton is not qualified to be President. The fact that she can't or won't admit it proves it.

[davidpdx]

38. I think both have made some mistakes

Although I think the whole thing over him calling someone sweetie is overblown. His comments in SF though were a mistake. Also he should have handled the whole issue with Wright a little better.

I was also disappointed when he decided not to campaign in Kentucky. Clearly he should have done a bit better there (closer to 35-40%).

As for Clinton, this was a pretty big gaffe. While the whole thing doesn't surprise me much, it does disappoint me.

She should get out of the race at this point. Doing it after her rather large win in Kentucky would have been a good time in my opinion for her to do it gracefully. But, then again, that's just my opinion.

[GoesTo11]

39. All your Obama gaffes have an underlying niceness, HRC's are meanness

Obama: Sweetie, religion, tea parties. I'll even add "likeable enough".

Clinton: hardworking whites, assassination, 3AM, ...

She is on the dark side.

[JVS]

41. Down in an area where only Hillary supporters are allowed to post it's been called brilliant

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=334x11795

[SeattleGirl]

42. "Assassinated" does NOT equal "clinging to guns and religion".

Not even close.

[DemVet]

45. Indeed, especially when Hillary wasn't referencing Obama.

Glad you Obama people can finally admit that.

[Perry Logan]

44. What bullshit. If it doesn't freak Robert Kennedy, it shouldn't freak anybody.

[dcindian]

46. It is a mistake because of how it effects her it is callous because of it's effect on others.

Somehow each and every one of you Hillary supporters see it as a mistake. I think the vast majority of Democrats view it as callous.

[Higher Standard]

51. Not all see it as a mistake, unfortunately...

At the very least, I'd think everyone would recognize that it was a poor way to phrase a reference assuming she was just referring to primaries going into June. Strangely, some people either can't or won't acknowledge even that.

[AlinPA]

53. "Misspoke" is a word that just does not work. No matter who says it, I always think

that it is not sincere when it is said. It sounds like a minor error, or slip of the tongue as one would make in a conversation and saying the wrong word. But using "misspoke" to defend something like the sniper fire incident or "Clinton having tea parties" is not sincere. I always think of republicans when I hear "misspoke", e.g. Huckabee (I am not calling Clinton a republican). Your sentence "Clinton made a mistake and said something distasteful....." is more accurate.