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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:24 AM
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What was her Intended Result, to get SDs to think, "He could be Killed! Better install HRC instead!"
Seriously, if we can agree that she's an intelligent person worthy of the Office and has her mental ducks in a row, and there was a method to the Madness, then in the end, What was the Intended Result? A Final dash at convincing Super Delegates that he's UnElectable because he's a walking Target? That somehow SHE has a much Lower Profile when it comes to WHO a nutcase would take out of the Game? (She was previously vetted there because of the Sniper Fire that missed her Already..)

I've been saying for weeks that I found the Whole "Vulture" Aspect of her and Followers to be Repulsive, and said a few times as well, "What are you guys Waiting FOR? A Bullet? Because that's what it looks like to me.. What "Catacylsmic" Event could be other than an Attempt on his Life? I didn't consider Wright to be "cataclysmic" in Scope..

At a minimum what slipped out today was nothing less than a Freudian Slip of Monumental Proportions.. And I think the Media in a sick way was Grateful to be Honest.. I believe they all wanted to discuss this possibility, but no one of them wanted to be the First to Bring it UP..

I was almost MORE Disgusted with Fuckabee when HE told his little joke, let's remember that HE was in front of the NRA pinheads and it was totally out of the Blue.. HE deserves more Rancor for that vile Remark as well..

But what do You think? Was there a calculating Intended Result in her statement? Did she even know that it was going out over the Web? Was she worn out? (Personally she didn't seem all that tired when mentioning Kennedy as she looked later during her "Apology" which Wasn't One..)

How can she make this RIGHT if she can put the toothpaste back in the tube, or at all..Ever?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:26 AM
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1. At best, her comments were reckless.
Especially when she had plenty of other examples to choose from for the point she was trying to make. Mondale/Hart in '84. Ted Kennedy's floor fight in 1980. I believe there was a battle in 1976 for the Dem nomination that went on for a while, no? (Help me out with that one, older DUers...I was only born in 1985.)
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beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:30 AM
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2. crossed my mind as well
Edited on Sat May-24-08 09:31 AM by beezlebum
i do believe there was calculation here, most certainly. rather than "suggesting" to someone he be assassinated, she suggested that the SD's consider it could happen, better give hrc the nom.

she has been testing it, and in lieu of ted kennedy's diagnosis, i suppose she figured him being on her mind would make for a palpable excuse when it didn't play well, but she's still planted the hypothesis in the minds of the SD's.

:puke:
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:31 AM
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3. What Clinton seems to fail to grasp is that the same lunatic fringe
That would assassinate a black President would happily cap a woman President too. On that basis alone her argument is ridiculous.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:38 AM
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4. Maybe even moreso if She was Veep,eh?
Thats what was worrying me, the "passion" of her followers, the WHITE low info crew who loved Guns as she kept promoting.. Almost seems to add up in that direction.. She's Veep, some Nutso pops him and the She's Prez after All..

And let's not forget that Squeaky From made an attempt on Ford's life from a few yards away.. A Female member of a "Cult" Charlie Manson Follower..

Could have been anyone, any Gender too..
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:39 AM
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5. I can't imagine that her comment was anything but a timeline comparison
Edited on Sat May-24-08 09:44 AM by MindPilot
However when I read about it, my very first gut-reaction was it sounded like someone from the Sopranos "dats a very nice presidential candidate youse got dere; be a shame if anyting were to happen to dat candidate." /mob voice

I think it was just a very, very poor choice of words, but it may have been her Dean Scream moment.

edit: spelling
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:49 AM
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6. Agree Dean Scream moment..
it all boils down to how "Joe Sixpack" sees it in the End.. Of course after a giant Shove by the Media First...

I also believe that the Media is ready to cast her aside, they couldn't figure out how to gracefully kick her to the Curb, until she said this..

Bug I agree with them when they say this came from a Very Dark Place within her..
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beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:52 AM
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8. no. not comparable to the dean scream.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 09:53 AM by beezlebum
this is not some fodder for media exaggeration and exploitation.

this is THE FOURTH TIME she has referenced to it in the last 5 months.

this was a calculated attempt to suggest/send the message to SD's that, not only is barack obama blacker than her and can't win the klan vote, but he is more assassinatable than her therefore they should select her.

she knew full and well it would blow up in her face, but she has done what she intended and suggested the unthinkable to attain an advantage.
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:51 AM
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what she ment to say was June is June.
And June is a month, a month with some days in it. And if June wasn't a month then it would be a teapot because tea pots have tea in them. Tea pots are not months that is why she is winning and everyone knows that.

Since June is the month of assassinations it must be that assassination means June which is a month of course and not a teapot like I explained to you earlier. So you see one must use the word assassination when talking about primaries in June oops I mean assassination.

We don't know what to call July yet though. I would guess that if Hillary says all black men are criminals then the word criminal will mean July, but that is just a guess and it may be a totally great word like obliterate. Which of course would make me wrong or perhaps wright.
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DeschutesRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:51 AM
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7. I can't tell why yet
and maybe it makes no difference. If this campaign has worn her out to the point of sleep deprived mistakes of this caliber, or like the Bosnia excuse, she is no more fit to run for office than tired 71 year old McCain. If it is deliberate, then she is simply not that smart - likely just a sock puppet for Bill. Either way, not every person who runs or has people buy what they are selling and vote for them is fit to hold the office for which they are running. Hillary is not fit.

I think the toothpaste tube is both empty and has been tossed in the trash. Let's see - she has already lost the nomination numbers game, she is losing credibility with anyone who counts by making up new rules that make no sense, she lost any potential for a VP slot (no one will make or seriously expect Obama to hire her as VP, he'd need a food tester on staff too), and she has even given up her stated fallback - the pick me if something happens to Obama. After her assassination comment, she wouldn't even make the short list of replacements for him if god forbid someone did kill him. Imagine the outrage if she even suggested her taking his place in wake of some tragedy, after having hoped for just such an event and freaking been so stupid as to say it out loud.

She might have her Senate seat, if she has any luck left at all. If I was her, I would be in despair at having tossed away my political future. Actually, I'd be doing some freaking repair work right now, but she seems oblivious to the carnage she is creating. So I dunno - am leaning toward her just being a sock puppet for Bill all along. Girl failed the bar exam, has done some pretty questionable stupid legal work in her day, couldn't get health care passed because she used more aggression/entitlement than brains and diplomacy, served as a First Hostess to her hubby but thinks that is presidential experience, fantasizes that she was fired at by snipers in a war zone, and that she brought peace to Ireland, when neither happened, no real legislation of note or importance achieved yet as a senator (that kind of stuff takes many years to accomplish as a record)....and on and on.

Something is terribly wrong with her - and the stress of the campaign seems to be bringing it to a head. This could get a lot worse, you know.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:58 AM
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9. A Lot Worse!
Now That is a Scary scenario :)

Thanks for the thoughts on this post and others, interesting perspectives!
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