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pkz Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:23 PM
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to Hillary supporters claiming sexism
Sexism? are you kidding me?

No one ever said that she couldn't be elected because she was a woman.

I am a woman, and I have thought all my life that the U.S could have a female Prez. Any qualified woman, just not Hillary. The question needs to be asked....why wasn't Hillary the one?

This race was not about Hillary's womanhood and just the same it was not about Obama's dark skin.

It was about the VERY BEST that the Democratic Party had to put forward to beat the repukes.

I personally, resent all the cries of sexism.

Weak women whine and bitch, nag....strong women move on, change for the better, build bridges, not tear them down.
Weak women scream sexism when it suits their situation.

Some Hillary supporters ought to take a hard look, and figure out the real reason the media turned their back on her....why did her friends in Washington dismiss her?


Ya know what? I'll bet anything, it is not just because she is a female.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:33 PM
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1. Save your fingers... they're impervious to facts
They want to believe the only way that their queen could be defeated is through rampant, vicious sexism. And if anyone should try to defeat her, she is allowed to use any means necessary, including hinting that they might (should) be assassinated.

And, of course, if anyone complains, they are guilty of rampant, vicious sexism.


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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:39 PM
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3. thread from yesterday had one such die-hard fool playing the sexist card everywhere
Fucking unbelievable the level of disconnect from the discussion at hand, in which NOTHING stated was even remotely about gender or gender roles.

It is like talking to a
1) drunk
2) one of bush's 22%ers
3) that insane guy I met on a field trip to California State Hospital in Camarillo, the one who really thought he was god

You are right, there are some of them that can't reason. They are beyond rational thought and a waste of time.
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pkz Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:36 PM
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2. my fingers are OK
but thanks anyway.

Really I am just so sick of the tired sexism defense.

Never has and never will be just because Clinton is a woman.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:40 PM
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5. You are right. Not about gender, it is about HRC's failings and the failures of her campaign
No body took anything away from her. She lost it all herself.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:40 PM
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4. exactly.
and yesterday some male was on this board telling me and other females that we are all sexist because we do not support Clinton. repeatedly. over and over and over and over and...

At this point they have reduced sexism to nothing more than a way to deny reality. It's disgusting.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:47 PM
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8. HRC supporters throwing around words and phrases in caviler manner diminishes language to drivel
AND it is a tactic employed by RW propagandists like Rove and the Newt.

Comparing what was 'being done to Hillary' to being made to sit in the back of the bus totally disregarded and disrespected the Civil Rights Movement and the very brave actions of people who stepped up alone to stand against injustice. Hillary ain't no Rosa Parks!

They it was 'like the Holocaust!!!' OK, THAT was WAY over the line. I have yet to read about millions of Hillary supporters being sent to death camps and slaughtered when they could no longer work. That one actually make me vomit. The hubris of equating a campaign loss to the greatest mass murder in the history of mankind shows there is a level of mental illness at work with some of those rabid supporters.

No real sense of history
No real sense of perspective
No real sense of themselves and their idol in relation to the rest of humanity
No real sense of justice, honor, honest

Face it, no real sense period.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:42 PM
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6. Feelin' a little bit irritable sweetie?
Normally I wouldn't feel comfortable calling a grown woman "sweetie" as it seems dismissive, but I'm working hard to fit in with the Obama style.
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:47 PM
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7. It's one of the signs of being an addict....
The denial of reality...

when you blame everyone else for your failures,
when you won't/can't listen to reason because it doesn't fit
into your reality,
when everyone else is wrong...

someone's got a problem.

Isn't there a forum here for recovering Clinton addicts?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:55 PM
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9. Erica Jung!
The violence of the political dialogue lately has made me understand how desperate the electorate is after nearly eight years of Repugnicans and three stolen elections. I totally understand Obamamania--and I also get the frustration of voters who wanted this to be the year we broke through the glass ceiling for women.

But let's get real. It's time for Democrats to put all personal bias aside and unite behind the things we believe in: a planet we can live on, reproductive choice, workers rights, health care for all, education for poor and middle class students, fair taxes, a Constitution made whole, rescuing America from war profiteers -- if indeed there is still time.

It's already very late. It's too late for quarrels about whether race or gender is more restricting. It's too late for prognostications about a future presidency we won't know until it has unfolded. Remember so-called compassionate conservatism? It turned out to be neither compassionate nor conservative. Why anybody believes election slogans mystifies me. But we do know this: a landslide for Democrats will change the direction of this country. So let's join forces to make it happen--and let's start now.

I don't believe that passionate Hillary supporters will vote for McCain in fits of pique. I sure won't. The truth is that Obama and Clinton are so similar politically that without generational and gender differences they'd be indistinguishable. Perhaps the passion for or against these two Democrats was revved up by how very close they are in vision. Sometimes people need to disagree for the sake of disagreeing.

Obama is right to offer his applause for Hillary's tenacity. He is right to take the high road. I doubt that she will be remembered for taking the low road. In politics as in life, tenacity is all. Where is Chappaquiddick now that Teddy Kennedy has honorably served decade after decade in the Senate?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erica-jong/democrats-unite_b_102850.html
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