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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:50 PM
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People are leaving?
Why?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:51 PM
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1. Maybe they are tired of hanging out at Free Republic II.
Can't say that I blame them. This place really has become a toilet in recent months. I've been here since 2001 and have never seen it like this.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:39 PM
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22. Some people swear that it has been this bad before but no way not even close.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:42 PM
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35. No, 2004, as bad as it was at times, wasn't near this bad.
I blame the administration. They have basically suspended the rules and let people do as they please. The result is that the forum is now being run by potty-mouthed, drama junky newbies and veterans who should know better, while decent posters who actually contribute something to this place are drifting away.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:44 PM
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38. This is true
as far I can remember.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:51 PM
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41. Not even close
Edited on Sat May-24-08 07:52 PM by depakid
There has been more rude behavior and utterly vacuous content here than I've ever seen on the board.

People acting like childish little freepers with half decent grammer.

One can only hope that they're staying far away from ANY Democratic political campaign IRL this year.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:51 PM
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29. I also have been here since 2001 and I must say I concur, QC.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 06:52 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:45 PM
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39. Absolutely and I agree.
I don't recognise this as DU anymore.

DemEx
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:48 PM
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40. It does have more in common with FR
than it does with the DU of the early years.
The drama, the hate, the manufactured media driven outrage, the polarization. The sense of self-righteous certainty.

And...let's not forget - the (now) common hatred of anything Clinton.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:11 PM
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48. One forum. GD:P. EVERYONE'S home smells like shit if the only place you sit is on the toilet.
:shrug:

Even the toilet should be flushed from time to time.

Sadly, not all the turds voluntarily swim away. :eyes:
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Buck Rabbit Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:51 PM
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2. The cylce of life?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:51 PM
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3. Who's leaving?
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:52 PM
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4. I have no Idea
.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:52 PM
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5. Same shit different day.
Might have something to do with posts like this "The BIG DAWG should have dumped that skank decades ago."
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:53 PM
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7. Saw that one didn't go in
came back 10 mins later and it was locked as I expected it would be.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:55 PM
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12. Nope that one is still up- check the vulture thread
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:52 PM
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31. Note how many Obama supporters objected though
I know I wasn't the only one. I alerted the mods about that thread, btw.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:37 PM
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34. I'm really glad you did
Today has been awful here and nerves are frayed on all sides. I keep trying to tell myself we are all on the same side. Some posts just hit a nerve.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:54 PM
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10. Or like this:
"I repeat: animal tranquilizer, blow dart and a net."
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:42 PM
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26. GAH....someone actually posted that?
:eyes:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:53 PM
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6. because they couldn't defend Hillary's outrageous comments
or at least they don't want to keep trying.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:56 PM
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13. It must hurt to begin to come to terms that the candidate you have loyally supported is a ...
narcisistic sociopath. :(

I think the truth is finally hitting home with many of HRC's supporters like it did for many of us earlier this year.

Coming to terms with such an "unfortunate concept" hurts one's psyche for a while. :shrug:
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:12 PM
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18. Narcissistic sociopath? LOL
Edited on Sat May-24-08 05:13 PM by Darth_Kitten
I think Obamabots think a little too highly of themselves.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:40 PM
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24. That is so not true, they left because the smell became unbearable..
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:53 PM
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8. Maybe they like the feel of a screen door slapping their asses.
Mostly hysteria, from what I've seen.

But this place do get ugly at times.
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:54 PM
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9. To build a better life across the ocean, free of John Bull's tyrany...
going to a place where the streets are paved with gold!

Or not...
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:55 PM
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11. This post is absolutely the last straw!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:56 PM
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14. They couldn't take the "heat" so they
took Hillary's advice about getting out of the "kitchen". They had defended Hillary throwing the "kitchen sink" at Obama but karma ended up biting all of them in the ass.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:03 PM
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15. Karma cuts both ways, Raine, as the viscious, perpetually outraged Obama fans might soon learn.
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Lady-Damai Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:10 PM
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20. Ooooooo.. so scary......

:popcorn:

What are we gonna learn? That most Hillary supporters will vote for McCain or sit home? The polls for months have been showing that...nothing new.


:popcorn:
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:45 PM
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28. yea all 310 of them
at Hillary-is-44
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:43 PM
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36. Over there they may be only 310 but over here the same people are 930 accts.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 07:43 PM by kenny blankenship
So you have to consider the big loss it would be for us. Force multiplying and so forth.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:59 PM
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33. Heh I see "ignored" answered me above
apparently threatening to take their "marbles and go home" well...WHATEVER. :shrug:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:56 PM
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43. Best drive them out of DU now
before they contaminate your beautiful mind.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:41 PM
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25. They they we we, are "we" not all here to vote Dem??????
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:05 PM
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16. I don't remember people leaving during "Bittergate"
When the airwaves were jammed 24/7 for nearly two weeks with the "awfulness" of Obama's remark in San Francisco. And when people here were screaming "elitist" and "can't win white voters" nonstop for weeks on end. No amount of contextualizing seemed to satisfy the Clinton supporters then.

But now that it is she who has "misspoken" (though she hasn't admitted to that) and has been called to the carpet for it, the wilting lilies are asking for the smelling salts to be passed, and are taking to their beds, in fits of unfairness.

C'mon people, toughen up. Hillary would want it that way. She made the gaffe; the media's attention to it is fair game (for Democrats, that is: Republicans can say anything). This is how the game is being played this year: you have to answer for every remark you make when you are the candidate. She blew it big time. Accept it. It will pass. But I think a week or two is fair time for discussion of it.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:09 PM
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17. It has been an eye opener for me this year
just how ugly some Democratic grassroots activists can act. And yes from all sides, it doesn't matter whether we all agree on who the individual worst offenders have been, the fact that such behavior is tolerated and even cheered on is disturbing to me. We can be just as mean spirited as any Freeper, we grab clubs to use for "our side" against "their side" within the Democratic side with just as much enthusiasm. And we are willing to utilize any weapon handy to win our battles with a concern for precision targeting akin to a high altitude carpet bombing of enemy positions.

We spin like Rovian tops, we parrot slick talking points as well as the Right Wing Noise machine, we cut and splice as well as Drudge. We can bully, intimidate and harass with the menace and volume of any crowd of bigots. And we make jokes about the discomfort that creates.

But that to me is all the more reason to stay engaged in netroots communities like this one. There is much work to be done.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:03 PM
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19. I left for a few hours,,,
and came back to see post after post of people "making fun" of DUers leaving. What happened??
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:38 PM
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21. ENOUGH!!! I resign from this thread!
And where is my pony?!?!?!

(you know, the one I rode in on?)
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:39 PM
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23. Because Obama is our nominee but there is still a GD:P, thats why. n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:44 PM
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27. Ohhhh....I get it...this is a DUZY FUNNIES Post & Thread...No one's leaving...
silly me for clicking on...I thought it might be "serious." Shoulda' learned! :rofl:
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:52 PM
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30. I have a question.
There are other sites that have taken your position and support Obama as the defacto candidate. This owners of this particular site have chosen to not take that path. They have decided that until there is just one person in the race, this will be a forum where supporters of the two remaining candidates are welcome.

My question is, knowing that this is the case, why do so many strictly Obama supporters choose this site?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:54 PM
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:51 PM
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42. Bingo!
Short, Sweet, and to the point..

Thank You!
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:57 PM
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44. Regan Democrats at best
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:01 PM
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45. because of posts like this
closed minded people who pretend to be progressive while attacking progressive democrats.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:44 PM
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37. Hello Writer
I'm not. For whatever that's worth. (Not a lot.)
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:05 PM
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46. I'd say because useful discussion doesn't happen here as much as it should
People seem to have forgotten something very important around here. You must never lose the ability to criticize your candidate of choice. Unfortunately, here at DU, you cannot criticize Clinton without alienating the Clinton supporters for emotional and not factual reasons. And you cannot criticize Obama without creating a mindless mob scene where the possibility of fault is never even given consideration.

These candidates are just people. They make decisions every day to try and further their campaign. We don't have to agree with every detail of someone's campaign in order to support them. They are after all, merely human and they will make mistakes. However, having the inability to have a reasonable, rational discussion of these candidates will remove all point to posting on this board.

I know that I personally refrain from posting anything critical of either candidate for the most part. I wonder how many others follow this rule, doing us all a great disservice and depriving us of a higher level of discourse. As things stand, Clinton criticism will receive fingers-in-the-ears treatment and Obama criticism will receive complete and total denial regardless of factual content. Not to mention that you are then 'branded' as a supporter of one or the other when if fact you support both or neither. Its just gotten to be a no-win situation to post in a place where thinking and discussion are trumped by a weird kind of devotion and worship.

I guess I'll have to wait for the flying spaghetti monster to run in 2012.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:07 PM
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47. It's ugly but
I've been here since 2001 and am not going anywhere. OPs that are really divisive I try to ignore. No point in fanning the flame wars, though I do put my two cents in on occasion.

I think I have been pretty respectful, all in all, of Hillary and her supporters. This 'assassination' remark bothered me mostly because Hillary expects her comments to be dismissed while she and her supporters really piled on Obama for the misspoken words he's uttered.

Well, I guess this is what politics looks like. Historically there have been some pretty nasty elections. What makes this one so bad is that every goddamn thing gets spread around on the internet and blown out of proportion.

So it goes.
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