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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:40 PM Original message |
I wish the Hillaryists realized how much they are harming the true feminist movement |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yep. K&R |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. I agree with you 100%. |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you for this. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. Why do you hate men? |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. agreed. |
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Darth_Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. LOL |
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Darth_Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Also, when men do something kinda icky and stuff, does a whole....... |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. If a large block of vocal men did "kinda icky and stuff" things... |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Conservatism being a prime example. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
37. Correct. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. Not |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. It think it is more of |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. No I'm a man who supports Obama and has supported women for other offices |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. No, some people realize it's not about one or the other extreme. n/t |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
32. One needn't scream to avoid being a doormat |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. Oh, PUHleeze!. HRC stays w/ her serial adulterer husband - that's no feminist role model! |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. I agree. All the whining about sexism plays right into female stereotypes. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
11. bitter, hard working white feminist here, glad to give you that 5th Rec |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
13. The victim role is just played out. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
47. Paglia? Camille Paglia? Uh, no, I don't think she is a feminist at all. |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
14. She's presenting herself as a strong woman.... |
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DogPoundPup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. You can't be a strong WOMAN when you |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
43. Her fall back position when she screws up is the victimized woman. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
15. I think of them as "yuppie feminists" who don't know a damn thing about genuine political struggle. |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
16. Don't forget how women are no longer allowed to decide for themselves who they prefer |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. And if you are a strong women you win a nomination because |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Yep. A womb is no reason to exclude someone from office, but no reason to put them in office either |
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stratomagi (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
19. A friend of mine made an interesting point the other day.... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. That actually is a really good point. Clinton did come into this with a past, |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Interesting... |
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stratomagi (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I don't know if you can say they haven't broken through. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
24. 'true feminists' |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. The reason I use the term is advancing women is not their issue |
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justinaforjustice (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
27. Hillory Is Not A Feminist, She's an Opportunist. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Great post, well said! "Hillary Clinton is morally unfit to be president." Exactly! |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
28. I'll define true feminism for myself. It's working for me and so is HRC n/t |
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PerpetuallyDazed (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I admire your ability to do that |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. I stood up to the Lubavitcher Rebbe's brother and argued for |
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PerpetuallyDazed (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
29. Yes! Hillary has hijacked the movement! |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Most young women support Obama |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
33. Dworkin is great mind. For you to dismiss her as a "kill joy" is shortsighted. |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Third Wave Feminism |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
34. Happy to K&R |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
38. As someone who was involved in the feminist movement - you are so wrong. |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. No progress |
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cjsmom44 (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. RE:Wrong |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
39. K&R |
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RooferDem (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
44. Victim feminism: |
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hardtoport (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
46. I think the danger in HRC's claims of sexism |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
48. They don't have a clue......but they will in the future....... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Au contraire. I think many of them know and just don't care. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-25-08 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
50. Bunk. |
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