Send shoes, send oranges to the DNC....protest outside the meeting.

[madfloridian]

The Hillary supporters are fired up and ready to go to DC for that May 31 meeting. They have websites all over the internet organizing it from all states. Not just from Florida. Here is one website.

There was already one protest of about 150 in April. They yelled and screamed and threatened and said "Howard be a man". The LaRouchies were even in attendance.

Her big donors have already been hard at work, damaging the DNC fundraising. They have even threatened Howard Dean with getting their money back. I think a couple have already. Really good for the party during the primary season.

"I've expressed to Dean my feeling that it's critical that this matter be resolved on a timely basis," Patricof says. "The voters in Florida and Michgan cannot be disenfranchised."

"He's got to exercise some leadership, and the sooner, the better," Patricof continued. "This is a party issue. We cannot afford to alienate this large a voting population in two very important states."

....."Pushing to seat the Florida delegates, at least one top Clinton fund-raiser, Paul Cejas, a Miami businessman who has given the Democratic National Committee $63,500 since 2003, has demanded Democratic officials return his 2007 contribution of $28,500, which they have agreed to do.

SO...what about the oranges and shoes to be mailed to the DNC? Clever, huh? Hurting the fundraising, then thinking of ways to tie up the staff so they can not get ready for the general election. Shows a great party spirit.

Project Orange Crush

Project Orange Crush

The Rules & By-laws
Committee will be meeting
May 31st. This meeting is
critical. All voters are
encouraged to join Floridians
in our Orange Crush campaign.

We are asking that each of you
mail an orange to each of the
members of the Rules &
By-laws Committee. You can
download the list of RBC
members by clicking on the
RBC download link. You can
also view the list by clicking
the RBC View link

Here is more about mailing boxes of shoes to the DNC...from the WesPac site.

ACTION ALERT! Walk a Mile in Our Shoes

Feel frustrated about Michigan and Florida and want to DO something that the DNC cannot help but notice? A group has set up a very clever project—you can see details here.
http://www.walkamileinourshoes.org/

Send a pair of shoes to the DNC or gather up a bunch. Include your own message, respectfully asking the DNC to pay attention to us regular people.

The good news is that the DNC will be asked to donate the shoes to an organization that will give them new life, AND if the goal of 10,000 pairs of shoes is reached, the media attention will certainly follow.

The bad news is that you have to act VERY fast! Shoes should be at the DNC by May 30th. Shoes should go out tomorrow or Saturday, but no later than next Tuesday (Monday is Memorial Day) for less expensive postage. (After that, the postage becomes prohibitive if the shoes are to get there in time.)

I have an idea for these folks. Why don't you work for your candidate as hard as you work against the party for two states that openly and defiantly broke the rules. They were even willing to accept the 50% penalty to get their way.

Work for your candidate, quit spreading anger toward Howard Dean and the DNC. They have followed the rules in place. They have tried to build the party throughout the 50 states. For thanks they get screaming and yelling and oranges and shoes to distract them from doing the job.

I guess that shows the priorities of that campaign. NOT to foster unity, but to cause division.

Kind of sad.

[cliffordu]

1. Why don't we do a counter protest with bags of bullshit???

[bridgit]

9. "bags"? Now come on admit it. You guys could marshal & field dump trucks filled with bullshit!

:thumbsup:

[cliffordu]

22. Well...SOME things have to be a surprise.....

[Cha]

67. hilary's supporters already

have bullshit past their stinky eyeballs. Fucking greedy maniacs.

[Oak2004]

92. I have a better mass protest

People send the DNC a donation, whatever they can afford, with a note saying that we know it's important to play by the rules, and we'll support the DNC against intimidation campaigns.

Edited to fix a fleet of typos

[ErinBerin84]

2. wtf at the shoes thing

This is their "clever idea"? I don't get it. Disgusting shoes? Hopefully they're come in pairs. If the shoes are not that raggedy, maybe they can be donated somewhere.

[madfloridian]

5. It is a form of harassment of the party that is following the rules

without favoring anyone.

[ErinBerin84]

8. heh

The Rules and Bylaws committee should save the oranges so when this is all done, they can get together, put the oranges in a juicer and mix with vodka to make screwdrivers. What theatrical ridiculousness. Plus, the word disenfranchised gets thrown around way too casually.


edited bc I keep getting confused as to whether the oranges and shoes are being sent to the DNC or Rules and Bylaws specifically.

[madfloridian]

16. To the RBC, I think. They have already been harassing them by phone and letters

Very endearing.

[anigbrowl]

11. Hmm, donate to campaign, or spend money to mail box of shoes?

I presume the message is that they'll take a walk if they don't gt what they want. Walk - shoes - gettit?!?!!?! I take this as an indication that Hillary's movement is beginning to splinter and break down this is a really lame idea. Argh - I didn't mean to pick 'lame', but they made me do it.

I was going to say that at least they could eat the oranges, but on reflection that's probably not a good idea. At all.

[rebel with a cause]

76. they can pretend they are republicans

and throw the oranges at the protestors. Just being silly........tornado sightings.... tunder storms.....late at night.

[ButterflyBlood]

3. If only these people were so vigorous before the frontloading was done

I don't recall this type of protest against the Florida and Michigan state governments and party leaders when they took the actions that caused their disenfranchisement. The warnings were given, but the response was a giant snooze.

[SwampG8r]

13. no it wasnt a giant snooze

it was a big laugh to them
they were reported in papers here as cracking jokes as they went to vote with the GOP
115-1

and a hillary supporter will say something abou paper trails being why they voted with the GOP
in 5...4..3..2..1

[madfloridian]

4. They should that energy into working for their candidate.

Instead of harassing the DNC.

[Tatiana]

6. The orange thing is cute. But the shoes thing, I don't get.

Let them have their day in the sun, I guess.

I only wish these people had joined the rest of us in protesting the Iraq war with the same fervor and zeal.

[anigbrowl]

12. Sorta...but no way would I eat any of them.

[AtomicKitten]

7. these people are really starting to creep me out

their wrong-headed fury reminds me of this:

:scared:

[Catherina]

10. Me too. Your pic reminded me

Recount is on HBO tomorrow, http://www.hbo.com/films/recount/

[VolcanoJen]

14. Perfect timing, eh?

We need a new name for the forthcoming "Brooks Brothers Riot" at the DNC. :-)

[Catherina]

15. I'm surprised they dropped the pots and pans

That would have been a classic for the history books!

:hi:

[Ken Burch]

57. Maybe somebody remembered that "pots and pans protests" were devised by rich women in Chile

To overthrow the democratically elected left government and impose a brutal police state that put the rich first.

[AtomicKitten]

31. thanks for the heads up

DVR set!

:hi:

[AZBlue]

64. And they're pissing me off too.

I'd like to make a suggestion of what they should do with their oranges and shoes.....


:hi:

[VolcanoJen]

17. It's nothing but a stunt to keep Hillary in the news somehow.

That's what's so utterly pathetic about this silly exercise.

Next time I go to DC, it'll be to march in yet another Iraq War protest. So many of us have widely varying priorities, don't we?

[CreekDog]

18. those people are scary

[madfloridian]

19. Dean won't be at this meeting either, I gather. He will be at the Gore fundraiser

in Manhattan.

http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/sunday/nation/ny-uscamp5691202may18,0,3122680.story

"We're all thinking about November," said Robert Zimmerman, a New York public relations expert and top Clinton fundraiser. "We are starting a dialogue together. I've made it clear (Obama backers) will be welcome to come on board. They've said the same to me." Zimmerman, a Democratic national committeeman, said DNC chairman Howard Dean has been a central figure in starting to bring the camps together.

Dean is organizing a May 31 fundraiser in Manhattan honoring Al Gore. The event is being chaired by Orin Kramer, one of Obama's top fundraisers, and by Maureen White, a longtime party fundraiser who has been assisting Clinton.

Last week, the Democratic National Committee announced both campaigns had signed a "joint fundraising agreement" creating a fund in which donations to each candidate could be pooled with contributions to the party and then used during the general election."

[davidpdx]

20. I have a feeling the hearing on the 31st is going to turn out

to rival that of the debacle after the 2000 elections. Brace for some very ugly things to happen.

Personally I wouldn't want to be anywhere near where that is going on.

[Beregond2]

21. And this is what the party gets for not

squelching Hillary months ago, WHEN SHE LOST.

[GalleryGod]

29. Well said, Indeed ! Maybe they can storm the Hotel with torches,too.

And they are WELCOME to FORM the CLINTONISTA PARTY, any damn time they want !

[defendandprotect]

60. Or, simply tracking her deceptive actions --- saying she'd remove her name from ballot + then NOT-

[ruby slippers]

23. I'll send them "mustard seeds" instead.....like the one I gave Barack

[Raine]

24. Yech smelly old shoes

their whole plan stinks! x( :puke:

[left is right]

25. please don't flame me but I don't understand the animosity toward MI & FL

It seems to me that both of these states were absolutely right. Why should New Hampshire and Iowa and the Super Tuesday states be given the privilege of voting first in the nation? They are both small states with very little diversity. They each have at most only one large urban area. Why should they be granted the ability to set viability over any candidate? I live in Indiana, just a stone's throw away from Kentucky, neither have much say in the nomination (except for this year). This year, like most election years, my candidate was out before we ever got to cast a vote. I would love to see Indiana move its date to early January.
I know most responses will say they broke the rules and I would grant that but the rule was stupid and unfair to begin with. It should have been broken from the very beginning. My sincere hope is that after this year's mess we initiate national policies that set up 5 primary dates with the nominee being unable to claim the prize until every one has had the opportunity to vote.

[Irishonly]

37. Florida and Michigan Agreed

to the rules set by the rules committee. Whether people agree with it or not doesn't matter. If the states wanted to go sooner, they could have fought when the rules committee was meeting. Instead the states moved the primaries without asking. Iowa and New Hampshire weren't punished because they went to the committee for permission to move their caucus and primary.

Iowa and New Hampshire are small states and inexpensive to run a campaign. If the MSM did their jobs correctly all candidates should receive coverage. I wish someone could explain to me why the Iowa and New Hampshire voted have so much influence. Had the other candidates received contributions from their supporters it may have not been necessary for them to drop. As it was I voted for Edwards even though he had suspended. The primary season shouldn't be a contest of which state gets to go first. If the rules were not enforced the result would have been disastrous.

Hillary's campaign manager set the rule when he was head of the DNC. There has to be some order or chaos will come. I was surprised the Iowa caucus didn't end up on Christmas day the way it was going. The problem was Senator Clinton thought she would be the presumptive nominee after Super Tuesday and she wasn't. That's when Florida and Michigan became important, not before. Clinton wants to completely rewrite rules and IMHO she is unreasonable. You know, I can't even call her behavior as acting like a spoiled child or I will be accused of being sexist and I am a woman.

BTW, I would recommend you read Madfloridian's journals. She discusses Florida more than Michigan but I learned a great deal from reading her journals.

[left is right]

42. I agree whole-heartedly with your assessment of HRC's manipulations

What I have trouble with is why the rule was set in the first place. Why give those two states such clout? Why shouldn't MI or FL have first dibs on the candidates, at least they are large racially diverse states with large urban areas? I personally would like to see 5 national primary days with each region having at least two states voting on each of the dates and as much as possible both large populous states and smaller states evenly spread throughout. No candidate could claim the nomination until after the final primary date. Give all states some say in the nomination. Take away some of the power has in selecting the candidate.

[Robyn66]

45. I live in NH and I agree with you

I don't get the big deal either. I don't know why they don't just pick at random what state votes when. And then have maybe three Super Duper mega Tuesdays maybe one for East Coast one for West Coast and one for the Middle. The whole things just seems kind of wierd to me.

[Irishonly]

51. You Would Have To Ask Someone

who is much more knowledgeable than I am. I only know that the smaller states were chosen because it's much cheaper to campaign and the whole country is supposed to get to look at the candidates. I think the rules committee will probably take a good, long, hard look at how the democratic primaries are run. I was more for a national primary but there are a couple of points that must be taken into consideration. Unless campaign finance was changed dramatically, only big name candidates would ever get to run. It seems as if candidates that cannot raise millions drop out quickly. Since I was an Edwards supporter I would like to see more of an equal playing field. It's a mess.

[madfloridian]

52. FL could have been on Feb. 5 instead of moving up to Jan 29

Only one week later, and their full slate of delegates would have counted.

But they HAD to move to January. They were warned. But they did it anyway.

Here is an explanation I wrote today, but it is way back on page 3 already.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6122987&mesg_id=6122987

[defendandprotect]

63. HRC won in Mich + Fla because Obama obeyed DNC rules + didn't put his name on ballot -!!!

[Irishonly]

84. I hear you

amd she didn't give a rat's patootie either until she realized she wouldn't have the nomination on Super Tuesday. For as much as I defended them in the 90s I can't stand to listen to either of them now.

[Warren DeMontague]

55. So, basically, any state should be able to schedule it's primary whenever they feel like it?

California has the most people in the US, we have several major urban areas, we have great diversity- so I think California should hold it's 2012 primary in January of 2009.

:crazy:

[stillcool]

80. Well I live in Massachusetts...

and my state is very important..we have loads of universities, and really smart people..if your state votes in January than my state will be voting in December of this year!!

[Warren DeMontague]

83. Oh yeah? Well my state is going to invent a time machine

and go back in time to ancient Greece, when democracy was invented, and have our primary THEN!

Muahahahahahahaaha!




:crazy:

[Vinca]

26. Let's send them some marking pens to inscribe their oranges -

"My candidate signed the agreement to disenfranchise Florida and all I got was this stupid citrus."

[beac]

69. Orange you a clever one!

Thanks for the laugh. Much needed. :)

[frickaline]

27. "Howard be a man"

from "feministists"?

:puke:

[GalleryGod]

28. Very,Very,Sad: Instead of the Brooks Brothers Riot,it'll be the Pantsuit Riot

If only Winchell were alive to cover this, "stuff"

[DFW]

30. Leave Howard out of this

He's got enough people banging on his door as it is.

I have nothing against Hillary, think she would have made a good president, but
I also think that our nominee (and next president) will be Obama (unless there
is a rabbit in some hat somewhere that none of us have spotted so far), and that
theatrics of this sort are counter-productive at best. It'll be what it'll be.

One thing I'm curious about. I have to be in the States on May 31, and am supposed
to be seeing Howard in New York that evening. If they think they'll be making any
kind of splash with him in D.C. on the 31st, they had better do it nice and early
in the morning, or they'll miss him.

[madfloridian]

33. Amen DFW. Enjoy your evening with him.

I think that is also the evening of the Gore fundraiser, isn't it?

Dean deserves better treatment and more respect from the party than this kind of stuff.

:hi:

[DFW]

35. That's it. I get to meet up with Al Gore again, too.

Heady stuff!!!!

:hi:

[madfloridian]

36. Seeing Dean and Gore at the same time....you lucky guy!

Have a great evening with them.

That last rally Dean managed to be in CT.

I envy you.

[DFW]

38. I intend to, thanks!

I just wish it were an inaugural ball with the two of them as
president and vice-president, but that will have to remain a
dream of mine, I fear.

[madfloridian]

40. Ah, many would share that dream.

I have had a very hard time this primary seeing my state Democrats set out to harm his chairmanship at the DNC.

It was so organized, so planned that the emails came to us right away to hurt fundraising for the DNC, and the divisiveness started.

Even the Florida bloggers worked with the state party, and not a one stood up for what they knew was the truth. We actually have people in our DFA group here that we find hard to talk to anymore.

It is a sad time in our state's history. Bill Nelson, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Corinne Brown, and the state legislators like Steve Geller have earned a place in the hall of shame for their behavior.

Hubby and I will probably never work again with the Democrats locally. It has gone too far with no one being honest. That's sad. We will vote Democratic, but we won't have the enthusiasm to get out do the boots on the ground stuff, the database stuff we did before.

[MaineDem]

32. I wish this same energy was going into electing a Democrat in November

Any Democrat, doesn't have to be for President. We need state Legislatures to be Democratic majorities. I hope people don't forget how important this is.

We need pick ups in the US Senate and House. I hope everyone so concerned with the FL/MI issues will work as hard for our candidates in the fall. Sadly, I think a lot of this is a cause celebre and no one will care once it's resolved.

[madfloridian]

41. You are so right. It just seems like a way to harass the party.

.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

34. Eat us! Hey, it's Thanksgiving Day! Eat us, we make a nice buffet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIufyg09WnQ

Eat us, we make a nice buffet!
We lost the race with Farmer Ed,
eat us 'cause we're good and dead.
White man or red man from east, north or south,
chop off our legs, and put 'em in your mouth!

Eat me!
Sautéed or barbecued!
Eat me!
We once were pets but now we're food!
We won't stay fresh for very long!
So eat us before we finish this song!
Eat us before we finish this song!

[thewiseguy]

39. Send your oranges to me. I can open up a small grocery store!

[grantcart]

43. Hmmm well if they are fans of the film Godfather it isn't going to go over very well lol

Symbolic significance of oranges
See also: The Godfather Part II and The Godfather Part III
Some film scholars and fans of the Godfather movies note what they believe is the symbolic significance of oranges in the films, suggesting that after the appearance of an orange in the film an important "death scene" follows.<22> In the first film, Tom Hagen and Woltz negotiate Johnny's movie status at a dinner table with a plate of oranges on it, and Woltz soon discovers his horse's severed head; Don Vito Corleone is buying oranges from a fruit seller when he is attacked; Sonny drives past a billboard promoting Florida Oranges before he is attacked at the toll booth; Michael is seen eating an orange while discussing his plans of revenge for his father's assassination attempt with Tom Hagen; oranges are placed on the table at the meeting of the Mafia bosses (and specifically in front of those who will be assassinated at the film's climax); and Don Vito Corleone dies while eating an orange, as he plays with his young grandson. Tessio is also seen peeling an orange at Connie's wedding. Carlo, who is responsible for Sonny's death, is wearing an orange suit when Sonny beats him up. In Part II, Fanucci grabs an orange from a stand just before he is murdered by Vito in the hallway of his apartment building. Johnny Ola brings Michael an orange from Miami and is later killed. Michael is also seen eating an orange while in a meeting with Tom Hagen and Rocco Lampone, as they are planning the assassination of Hyman Roth, who is killed in the final scene. In Part III, before they are murdered by assassins in a helicopter, an orange rolls off the table. Finally, as Michael Corleone dies at the end of part III, he drops an orange and it rolls away.

[SoFlaJet]

44. very cool Grant

I have wondered about the oranges and their significance. You think about the little things like that after you've seen a movie dozens of times

[Bensthename]

46. Oh my gawd, talk about a bunch of whiny sore losers.. Pathetic...

GO away Hillary for the good of the party and country.

[amelia]

47. It's about COUNTING all the votes, remember, the same ones you fought to count in 2000?

[housewolf]

48. The thing is... primary elections are about DELEGATE counts, not popular votes

Maybe the should be about popular votes, but up to this point in time, they are not. They are about delegate counts. Trying to win the nomination with claims of "more popular votes" is trying to change the rules in at the end of the process.

If Hillary wants the primary elections to be about the popular vote, she can work on getting that changed for future elections. In 2008, the primary elections are about delegate counts.

[amelia]

50. Bullshit! The delegates should vote according to the wishes of their constituents,

[madfloridian]

53. No, that is not what Hillary is claiming. The nominee is chosen by delegates.

She is just not telling the truth. There really is no popular vote count that does not exclude caucus states.

The nominee is not chosen by popular vote count. Not by electoral votes. She is not being honest.

[housewolf]

78. Maybe you think so... but there are no rules about that

and one of the things we Americans have always prided ourselves on is being a nation of rules & laws, not individuals.

There is an argument to be made about that, but it has to be an argument for the next election. It's just wrong to try to change the rules or implement new rules at the end of an electoral process. That's called coercion and manipulation.

[Ken Burch]

58. That's not what its about. It's about stopping a progressive comeback

And keeping the DLC in control of the party.

HRC is the candidate of the conservative wing of the party, remember.

[Gore1FL]

49. Shoes?

If they bought Birkenstocks maybe it would be a sign of unity....

[2rth2pwr]

54. Why can't Obama use some of his unity skills to solve this?

If he can unite us with Iran and North Korea, he should be able to handle his own party, right?

[greenbriar]

56. shows her true colors she doesnt' give a SHIT about the US

just herself

[defendandprotect]

59. I think by Tuesday, Howard Dean is going to have to deal with this fantasy issue . . .

[Time for change]

61. Well said

I wonder how many of these people are really Democrats?

[RBInMaine]

62. Dems can't act like RePukes in FL in 2000. I hope Team-Obama plans to have monitors there.

[defendandprotect]

65. Have to also say that I think Howard Dean unestimated HRC's obsession to win . . .

and maybe if he had this to do over again, he would have dealt with this more forcefully???

[madfloridian]

66. Well, they stripped all the delegates. That's pretty forceful.

I think Obama and the DNC have been letting them do themselves in. Maybe that's the best way. :shrug:

[defendandprotect]

74. No -- they should have ensured that when HRC said she'd take her name off the ballot ...

that she actually followed thru and did that!!!

Letting talk continue on of HRC financing a new vote in Florida, for instance --
a privately financed vote??? Just nonsense ---

All inspired by HRC's obsession with getting the nomination ---
LOTS OF MONEY INVOLVED HERE ---!!!

There wasn't sufficient follow thru by Dean to ENSURE that HRC followed the rules ---

[madfloridian]

75. So you are saying Hillary's behavior is Dean's fault?

Okay.

[stillcool]

81. How can you deal more forcefully?

stripping delegates because of breaking the rules was voted on by the entire committee. Howard Dean has no power to waive the rules. The committee has to vote on it. The DNC gave Florida and Michigan plenty of time to move their primary date so they would be in compliance with DNC rules. They said fuck you. I say fuck them.

[proud2BlibKansan]

68. Why don't these idiots focus their energy on ending the war?

We need this kind of passion in the streets speaking out against the president and the war.

[madrchsod]

70. this is their war....

the other war does`t

[proud2BlibKansan]

77. I know - that was a dumb suggestion on my part

since their candidate voted FOR the war.

[LaStrega]

71. per your usual ...

:kick: & bigass rec

[libnnc]

72. Shoes. OMG.....

Shoes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HjIljJd-o0

Let's get some fucking SHOES!!!11111

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

73. Only one person can stop this nonsence, but she is too busy

giving talking points to Fox News commentators.

[whistle]

79. Why shoes? Michigan wasn't the home of Florsheim shoes, Chicago IL was

<snip>
In 1892, Milton Florsheim began producing shoes in a small factory located in Chicago, Illinois. The first pairs of Florsheim shoes made by Milton and his father, Sigmund, were a remarkable combination of style, comfort and high quality workmanship. <MORE>

http://www.florsheim.com/shop-fl/about-us.ep

[windbreeze]

82. This situation is becoming sickening...

to find this being proposed on WesPac absolutely blew me away...

I wonder how many have read the following thread on DU?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6127661

I think I will go post it somewhere appropriate...it might make people think a little.

Someone needs to get hold of this situation and say enough is enough...it ends now...I can't believe how far some are willing to take the bullshit...omg...we are all DEMOCRATS aren't we??? aren't we supposed to be beating up the Republican?? what the hell is going on here..????I never took it serious that her supporters wouldn't vote for the nominee...but it sure looks like that is what they intend...OMG...unbelievable!!!Better to have a Rep in the WH...than to back the Democrat...is that possible???Tell me it isn't so!!!

I went in a little local store tonight, I hadn't been in for quite a while...I know the owner..and we've discussed politics before, he says to me...soooo, I suppose you are supporting Obama now...I told him, actually, I haven't supported anyone just yet...I am kinda sitting back and watching..3 other men in the store jumped into the conversation...and I gotta tell you...they all expressed how flabbergasted they are at the way Hillary has run her campaign, and how she's acting...ALL 3 of them said...NOT PRESIDENTIAL, in their estimation, AT ALL...They were laughing at her, for crying out loud...and these weren't kids...they were all WHITE WORKING MEN, ranging in age from 40 to 60 I'd say...shaking their heads and saying she's too emotional, no way is she fit to be President, she'd be a danger in the WH..and NO WAY would they ever vote for her..it was my turn to be flabbergasted...the whole conversation took me by surprise..I thought omg...people really are talking about this stuff...it isn't just me and my neighbor discussing it...

This thing needs to end soon...I worry that the damage being done, is not going to heal...a house divided against itself cannot stand...and out there in the distance is Karl Rove...Robertson and whomever else...rubbing their hands gleefully as they watch the Democrats self destruct once more...damn it, damn it!! some of us never learn...
wb

[Sam Ervin jret]

85. Patricoff wants Dean to show LEADERSHIP - so long as it agrees with the Patricof Doctrine.

If you want the man to lead, step back out of his face and let him do his job.

But we all know that is not what is wanted here. What is wanted here is not leadership. It's capitulation.

Me thinks there are too many roosters in the barnyard. (I said roosters because I was being polite)

[OzarkDem]

86. I'm going to DC with Rep Tubbs Jones

She has a bus going to DC on Friday for the Rules Committee Meeting...

Come join Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones and thousands of others in Washington DC to rally outside the National Democratic Committee Rules and By-Laws meeting to demand that ALL OUR STATES AND DEMOCRATIC VOTERS be fully included in choosing our Democratic Candidate for president.

Bring a friend, ride the bus, email this to friends. Below are the bus details:



The COUNT EVERY VOTE BUS will leave at 11:00 PM on Friday May 30th from Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones' office at 3645 Warrensville Center Road. There is secure parking in front to leave your cars.

It will drive though the night to arrive by 7:00 AM for the Rally, stopping for breakfast. It will return from Washington DC at 4 PM when the Rules and By-Laws Committee is scheduled to end. You may bring snacks or food if you do not wish to eat at the highway stops.

To secure your reservation call in immediately (even if you have emailed initially with your intention) to Gloria Nance at 216-751-9022. It will be on a first come, first serve basis and the seats are limited to 45. We have had 30 inquiries in 1 day!

The cost is $49 round trip. Your check or money must be in at the latest by 5 PM on Thursday May 29th. It is made out to Stephanie Tubbs Jones for US Congress Campaign Committee, and sent/ brought to 3645 Warrensville Center Road, Shaker Heights OH 44122.



Participants are asked to wear RED WHITE and BLUE ! Make and bring your own signs. If you wish to go inside the meeting you must secure a ticket ahead of time as outlined below. *

Should the bus fill, we will continue to organize car trips and van trips. We will be heard. COUNT EVERY VOTE !!!

[madfloridian]

87. It is so sickening to see Hillary supporters doing this.

It is not cute, it is not funny. It is just sad now.

Hillary has lost, and she can't admit it. She can't let go of her dream.

[OzarkDem]

89. We're serious and believe in the party

and the principles it stands for.

[madfloridian]

90. She has lost. She is hurting my state with her divisiveness.

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[OzarkDem]

91. Talk to Dean and Obama

They're the ones refusing to let Florida Dems votes be counted, not Clinton.

[muryan]

88. If you honestly think MI/FL wont be included

you're as delusional as Hillary's campaign. It'll be included, but penalized as it should be for breaking the rules. Its still not going to help her out any

[Gman]

93. No, for disenfranchising Democrats and telling them "who cares what you think"

"they get screaming and yelling and oranges and shoes to distract them from doing the job."