OUTRAGED RFK KIN SAY HILL'S NOW TOAST

[livingmadness]

The New York Post is reporting that not all members of Robert Kennedy's family have excused Clinton's recent 'mis-speak'. According to one Kennedy relative "That comment may be the last nail in her (Hillary's) campaign's coffin". Interestingly the family members are not named, so make of that what you will.

Full story here.

Updated to add: Thread title is the same of as the story title following the link.

[Johnny__Motown]

1. The coffin is already nailed shut, dirt has been thrown upon it. This is the tombstone

[livingmadness]

2. I imagine at the Clinton campaign they're praying the

big-named Kennedy's don't start talking. If they do ... well, big, BIG trouble. Actually I hope they don't. This un-named piece is probably enough to send the campaign the message. Stay in if you must, but clean up your act! Oops, ok that's my message. Capiche?

[hokies4ever]

8. Good point!

Ted Kennedy could single-handedly end Hillary's political career if he wanted to, so she better hope he wasn't offended by his statement. Could you imagine the scene of him leaving the hospital after a follow-up visit wearily walking toward a press conference to condemn Hillary's statement?

[Tellurian]

24. The un named sources trick...and you fall for it like a 2yr old.

wow...quantity is never a substitute for quality..

[hokies4ever]

26. Never said that I believe the story

Reading comprehension is your friend. The fact still remains that Hillary's political outcome of this gaffe rests in the hands of the Kennedys. She's lucky that they have decided to pardon her on this gaffe or remain silent.

[Tellurian]

29. Ted's problems far outweigh any campaign rhetoric Obama's campaign cares to generate

from "unnamed sources"..

[hokies4ever]

34. Where's the proof that Obama's campaign is making this claim?

Or do you just enjoy leveling unsupported charges against the frontrunner for the Dem Party? Why isn't Hillary mulling over V.P. picks right now if she's going to win? :rofl:

[Johnny__Motown]

41. That is the un named source trick again.. you were supposed to fall for it

[roguevalley]

62. your lack of decency is now complete.

[me b zola]

85. If this story is false, the Kennedys' will make a statement

refuting the facts of this article.

[H2O Man]

40. Obama supporters,

including some of the Kennedy Clan, do not have to say anything. The comment spoke for itself.

[crickets]

46. Succint and correct. -nt

.

[yardwork]

53. Thank you for making this point.

There are too many straw men dancing around here today.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

92. FYI - DU allows you to share up to 4 paragraphs of a news item

It helps discussion if you provide more of the story for contextual purpose.

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[dkf]

3. The Kennedy's have so much to worry about and Hillary throws this in their face.

RFK, Jr. can't make everything all nice. I'm sure this isn't something he enjoys either. I bet he is beginning to regret his endorsement big time.

[hokies4ever]

5. Would RFK Jr. get Hillary's Senate seat

if she becomes the V.P.? I want to know if he supports a 'dream' ticket.

[Cha]

88. I hope he regrets the shit out of it as he should..that's what

he gets for endorsing something built on quicksand.

[hokies4ever]

4. "Here lies a disruptor. She disrupted poorly."

May this be a lesson to all future presidential candidates. :rofl:

[NightWatcher]

6. I wonder if RFK Jr. is still a Hillary supporter

[livingmadness]

10. RFK Jr responded on the same day, saying he saw no

menace in her comments (or words to that effect), however he hadn't actually heard them himself. Given that was his initial response, I can't see him abandoning his support of Clinton. Its the Obama backing Kennedy's that would worry the Clinton's more. But their hands are full, so I imagine they'll keep silent on this one.

[JVS]

12. He sure does want his dad's senate seat.

[garybeck]

101. Why not is Uncle's instead? n/t

[FourScore]

61. That's a beautiful photograph you got there, livingmadness.

And thanks for posting what RFK said. I was wondering that myself. n/t

[roguevalley]

63. what a great picture. what a sweet little boy. I love kids that age.

[DFW]

7. The New York Post is a Murdoch paper

Same news slant as Fox. Always to be kept in mind when reading their stuff.

Even when they're right, you gotta watch them!

[alwysdrunk]

11. Yeah screw NY POST

I never liked NY Post ever since Public Enemy made a song dissing them. I never knew what they printed but I was a PE fan.

[WeDidIt]

16. Murdoch and Faux have been PRO=CLINTON

so if they are turning on Hillary now, this is really bad.

[DFW]

25. I give Murdoch/Faux zero credibility whatsoever

If they have been making pro-Clinton noises, it wouldn't surprise me to
hear that they have been doing it at the behest of the RNC whose calculations
at the time told them she would be the weakest Democratic candidate. If they
now turn on her, it just means they have changed their minds. Murdoch would
sooner return to the Outback and commune with the kangaroos than see a Democrat
in the White House.

[WeDidIt]

44. Typical Hillary style take on things

Murdoch is all wonderful until one of his popers reports something bad for Hillary.

:eyes:

[DFW]

45. Typical jerkoff style take on things

I am not a Hillary supporter, and have hated Murdoch since before he ever
took over Fox in the 1990s. As far as I am concerned, he has always been evil
trash, and if he suddenly says either Obama or Hillary is God, my opinion of
him will not change.

My opinion of Murdoch has remained constant for nearly two decades, and is has
nothing to do with the current campaign.

Good thing "get a life" is not enforceable in a court of law, or there would be
a lot felons hanging around this board. Go attack your enemies and leave your
friends alone.

[roguevalley]

64. Murdoch supports shillery.

[DFW]

86. Murdoch has no such allegiance

He supports his own accumulation of wealth and power,
and cares exactly zero for anyone or anything else.

[Maraya1969]

9. It would be wonderful if one of them spoke in front of a camera. and get

it on the news.

[livingmadness]

15. Can't see it. They have too much class for that.

As Obama has also demonstrated with his dignified and restrained response. The other Kennedys will likely join Michelle Obama in fuming silently.

[MH1]

21. I disagree.

I think the issue is better dropped.

Seriously, it was a tasteless remark, but the larger issue is that some whackjob might think "hey great idea". Continuing to talk about it just keeps reminding the whackjobs.

I'd rather see lots of stories about how excellent and impenetrable Obama's security detail is.

And I'm sure the Kennedy's are already aware of who Clinton is. They don't need to wallow in this crap. But I wouldn't be surprised if there are some heavy discussions with superdelegates going on.

The supers is what I don't get. There have been too many foot-in-mouth moments for Clinton. There must be some serious fear of the Clintons in certain quarters, if they aren't all moving as fast as possible to shut down her campaign.

[roguevalley]

67. the remark is only 'tasteless' if it isn't acted upon. I think that is why

everyone is holding their breath, thanks to her.

[ruby slippers]

13. "Hill's now toast"....is that a veiled reference to something sinister....(just kidding)

[livingmadness]

17. If not sinister Ruby, then SURELY its sexist!!!

[ruby slippers]

18. so there is male toast and female toast? Amazing

:rofl:

[livingmadness]

19. Hmmm ... OTOH perhaps it would have been sexist had they

said 'crumpet' ... or 'muffin' ... then there's crust, which would of course bring in McCain ... the mind boggles!!

[ruby slippers]

22. clever...more cleverer than mine....crust, I love it!

well, really not crust.....I usually spit it out...

[QueenOfCalifornia]

70. Mom

would not like that.

Or Auntie Em. :rofl:

[TheCowsCameHome]

28. It depends on how you've been bred...............

:rofl:

[livingmadness]

35. LOL

Well if the Clinton campaign had known which side their TOAST was buttered on, they wouldn't be watching it all crumble away ... OMG I need COFFEE!!

[ruby slippers]

38. good luck...I keep spitting mine all over the keyboard this morning.

[Pisces]

100. Well woman who don't cook a lot tend to burn things, therefore you were calling her a bad

cook with the burnt toast reference, therefore saying she should spend more time in the kitchen, which can be perceived as sexist by the crazies.

[geiger]

20. Seeing that the comment about Mr. Clinton's campaign was also inaccurate,

it is difficult to know what she's thinking, except I read in a book by Dick Morris once (not that I particularly care for his antics either) that "Hillary has a way of creating her own reality (to fit her ambition and view of her own importance).

So, it comes down to character, which sounds trite but which is true, in the end.

[DemVet]

23. The only one that needs to "excuse" her is Bobby Jr...and he has.

"All members" don't have shit to say about it.

[marions ghost]

33. sure they do get to have a say

"it takes a village" y'know?

[Misskittycat]

36. RFK has a widow and 8 other surviving children; not just RFK, Jr.

The RFK family is split on the endorsements between Clinton and Obama.

[livingmadness]

39. But don't you see kittykat???

They're just like those damn States that don't support Hillary, THEY JUST DON'T COUNT!!!

Get with the program!! *snark*

[DemVet]

49. Bobby Jr is the head of the family and therefore the official spokesman.

Besides, there is nothing to apologize for. Hillary was just stating the obvious...something COULD happen to Obama.

[Hippo_Tron]

54. Head of the family? What the fuck does that mean?

[Swamp Rat]

57. Lord of the Castle

Women are chattel; children are equity.

[gabby garcia]

60. what a sexist thing to say!

and as far as the "something" that COULD happen to Obama - just what are you hoping for exactly? please illuminate us!

[BlooInBloo]

66. Dude - it's not The Godfather.

[roguevalley]

72. head of the family? TEDDY is head of that family. You sure don't

know patriarchal Irish family set ups do you. RFK, Jr. can have his feelings but they don't trump other siblings and cousins and they certainly don't trump David, who saw his father killed on TV and died years later from drug abuse they attribute directly to that moment. I doubt he would be forgiving.

[Misskittycat]

79. I think Kathleen Townsend or Joe Kennedy III might have something to say about who i

to say about who is head of the family. Many of his children are accomplished adults who are entitled to their own opinions.

[Catherina]

82. Oh the irony! "Head of the Family"?

:rofl: Hillary's campaign REALLY has been bad for feminism.

[Garbo 2004]

96. Ethel Kennedy supports Obama as 2 of her other kids. RFK Jr doesn't speak for them in all things.

[roguevalley]

69. you're full of shit. that entire family can say what they will. unlike you,

they earned it.

[Catherina]

81. The Kennedy Family too now dead to you I take it? n/t

[marions ghost]

27. interesting

the effect on the Kennedys who seem to be of different minds. Obama didn't get an apology but gave her a break on it, to his credit.

What about the insult to the rest of us who have been battered by the Rethuglican regime and are sensitive to --and sick of--the use of sly wording to convey veiled messages? No apologies.:(

[ruby slippers]

30. The "I take him/her at his word" defense.....

remember when Hillary said this....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/2/19235/02786/275/467539

and now Barack says he will take Hillary at her word that she didn't mean anything.

In other words, he doesn't really believe her when he knows what she was really meaning....

[marions ghost]

37. LOL right

"as far as he knows" she didn't mean anything by it....:)

[Catherina]

83. Axelrod repeated that today. "We take her at her word"

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4926658

Try to overlook the idiocy of that little shill George Stephanopoulos.

[Cha]

89. Not like hilary when she fabricates a crisis and says..

Meet me in Ohio Obama and we'll DEBATE YOUR BEHAVIOR IN THIS CAMPAIGN:silly:

Obama and all his supporters will deserve a big celebration Inaugertion time.

[Catherina]

91. Someone REALLY needs to write a book about these primaries

The sooner the better too because so much happens that we forget. I'd forgotten that one!

[Cha]

95. There will be some very interesting books

that have come from all the analysis during this primary season.

I'm sure there are some very powerful dlc people who are crushed that their inevitable candidate didn't secure power for them in our white house.

[marions ghost]

97. Im sure

somebody is already writing them....

This is one for the books all right...so many implications for the future.

[DainBramaged]

31. The NY Post

Rupert Murdrecck's personal toilet paper.

The ONLY thing you beliueve from them is the Stock Market reports.

[WillyWonton]

32. Oh the irony!!!

Kind of ironic that this whole thing started with Clinton's assisination comment, and now those offeneded by her words are discussing her coffin and tombstone in this topic!

[livingmadness]

42. One comment based on a line in the article referring to the CAMPAIGN.

Not the person. Exaggerate much?

[WillyWonton]

43. Try reading the posts in this thread,

there are a few that reference Hillary's coffin and here tombstone. And no, I don't exaggerate much, just call it like I see it.

[slinkerwink]

50. you clearly don't understand metaphors, sockpuppet

[WillyWonton]

98. Blatant disregard for DU forum rules...

"Do not post personal attacks or engage in name-calling against other individual members of this discussion board. Even very mild personal attacks are forbidden."

"Do not publicly accuse another member of this message board of being a disruptor, conservative, Republican, FReeper, or troll, or do not otherwise imply they are not welcome on Democratic Underground."

"Do not draw negative attention to the fact that someone is new, has a low post count, or recently became a member of Democratic Underground. Do not insinuate that because someone is new, they are a troll or disruptor."

[roguevalley]

74. 3 posts. you must have taken a left turn at freeperville to get here.

go back. they miss their sock puppet.

[Moochy]

76. it will be getting its pizza in under 30 minutes

[WillyWonton]

99. Another blatant disregard of the forum rules...

"Do not post personal attacks or engage in name-calling against other individual members of this discussion board. Even very mild personal attacks are forbidden."

"Do not publicly accuse another member of this message board of being a disruptor, conservative, Republican, FReeper, or troll, or do not otherwise imply they are not welcome on Democratic Underground."

"Do not draw negative attention to the fact that someone is new, has a low post count, or recently became a member of Democratic Underground. Do not insinuate that because someone is new, they are a troll or disruptor."

[Catherina]

84. ! Talking about coffins and tombstones

[Darth_Kitten]

47. LOL The New York Post?

Funny. :rofl:

[Skidmore]

52. I thought Murdoch was Hillary's publisher of choice?

And Scaife was her publicist. Wow! Have we been snookered?

[Darth_Kitten]

48. Now toast? Is that a THREAT? LOL

n/t

[cliffordu]

51. GAME. SET. MATCH.

TOAST!!!

[Tatiana]

55. Hillary should realize this is the price you pay for opening pandora's box.

After cozying up to the likes of Richard Mellon Scaiffe and Rupert Murdoch, today we have the NY Post continuing to roast her and Chris Wallace, of the Faux News channel that Clinton and her surrogates thinks is so "fair and balanced," handing Terry MacAuliffe's ass to him.

Clinton is only reaping what she has sown. There is a price to pay for dancing with the devil and a zebra doesn't change its stripes.

[Cha]

90. chris wallace handed terry mccauliffe's

ass to him?

[Tatiana]

93. Well, maybe that's not a good choice of words.

But Terry clearly came on Faux to spout the Clinton campaign's talking points freely without rebuttal and seemed stunned when smirky Chris Wallace began to challenge him on all his ridiculous claims.

This is all a game to these wing-nuts and Hillary really thinks she can buy their support and loyalty.

[BlooInBloo]

56. I wonder if her "I really meant what I said" op-ed today had something to do with their speaking out

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6120820

[OzarkDem]

58. "Not named" = more bs from Axelrod

if only he disliked Republicans as much as he hates other Dems.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

68. "if only he disliked Republicans as much as he hates other Dems."

This is priceless coming from you. Oh, the irony... :rofl:

[chascarrillo]

71. I wasn't aware that Axelrod was related to RFK. I learn something new every day!

Maps are more important than math.

Caucus states don't count.

Etc.

[crankychatter]

59. somehow "kennedy" and "kinfolk" are incongruous

but I like your post

k/r

:-)

[PBS Poll-435]

65. I bet Mrs. Arnold Schwarzenegger

Is PISSED.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

77. Here in

Kal-eee-forn-ya we call her the Termanatrix.
:rofl:

[PBS Poll-435]

80. That is awesome.

And truth-be-told.

She FREAKING rocks.

(Like the overwhelmingly vast majority of the Kennedy family.)

[QC]

73. More right wing sources in DU.

Not so long ago posting fascists got people thrown out of here.

[wvbygod]

75. yet more faux outrage

If only there had been a metaphor it.

[Barack_America]

78. I LOVE your sig pic! It was taken in my neighborhood!

Just 4 blocks from my house! :D

[Cha]

87. I'm glad the new york post

wrote down all the reasons bringing up RFK's assassination in JUNE had fuck all to do with why she's dragging her ass.

I bet this pissed off hilary..

"In a radio interview yesterday in Puerto Rico, Obama said that he had accepted the apology Clinton issued Friday and that her comment about RFK was just "careless."

Yeah, hilary's CARELESS all right.

[BellaLuna]

94. What does the Enquirer and Globe say?

It would carry as much weight as this gossip rag.


The Post???? :rofl:

[Blondiegrrl]

102. OT: I *love* the photo in your signature.

How sweet!