Virginia (13) + Iowa (7) = Ohio (20)

[BluegrassDem]

Just one of the examples how Obama will be changing the electoral math like never before in November. The CW would say that he needs Ohio to win. Ohio would be fine and dandy to turn blue in the fall, but unlike Hillary whose only chance of winning a GE would be to win Ohio, Obama can win other states that equal to or surpass the Buckeye State in EV's. Throw in Colorado and New Mexico and maybe North Carolina, and you're looking at a man that will throw the political playbook out of the window.

[saltpoint]

1. Agree. This is a turning-point election. Registration is way, way up,

and on our side, not theirs.

Obama is a sturdy vehicle for long-awaited meaningful reform in people's relationship with government.

McCain is a walking corpse.

Agree with you on the states you list and might even throw in a couple more. I think it's worth all our toil and trouble to run up the score on this one.

[thewiseguy]

2. He has a better chance of winning Colorado than the two states you have mentioned

He has never trailed McCain in Colorado polls and Hillary has never led McCain in Colorado polls.

[BluegrassDem]

6. McCain has never campaigned in Iowa, even in 2000

Obama basically camped out there for months. Chuck Todd on MSNBC even said Iowa should be the easiest state to flip for Obama. McCain has never campaigned there, so Iowans don't even know the guy. And New Mexico and Virginia will flip as well.

[PM7nj]

8. Why are you so confident about VA?

I think it might be easier to get Ohio than Virginia.

[BluegrassDem]

9. African-American turnout plus northern VA should do the trick this time

The stars are aligning for Obama in VA. VA is already tilting blue with Webb and Kaine winning statewide. Obama already has state establishment behind him. Northern VA and a high number of African-Americans should be the key to victory there.

[dempartisan23]

18. MARK WARNER is why obama will win VA

warner will win in va by 20+ and that should help obama win.

[MadBadger]

3. Colorado will go blue

[PM7nj]

4. I am so sick of Ohio.

Thank god we have a plan B this year.

[BluegrassDem]

7. I'm with you...I'd love for Obama to win the presidency w/out Ohio

Just so we can all give a big fat FU to the media who thinks he can't win without Ohio. And that would finally put a nail in the coffin to the notion of "Reagan Democrats" controlling who wins elections.

[smalll]

13. Yes, Ohio: so frightfully down-market. We're going to find "new and better" Democrats -

("new and better Democrats" as I saw some Obamatron post here recently.) -- :eyes:

[PM7nj]

15. Thanks for putting words in my mouth.

What I am saying is that I am so sick of the mentality that we MUST win Ohio to win the White House. I think we should try hard to win there and I think we will win Ohio if we have a unified party, but I don't think it has to be top priority.

[flor de jasmim]

16. Yes.--let's get rid of the idea that some states are more important than others!! PLEASE

[Firespirit]

17. I'd love to win Ohio just to thumb our noses at the crooks

The state I am sick of is Florida. Can't it just break off from the mainland or something? :P

But with Obama, Ohio and the state-that-must-not-be-named are insurance. Padding. Not essential to win. And I like that.

[The River]

5. I'll Do What I Can

to help Virginia go Blue(er).
Webb was a good start. Electing Obama
and defeating Virgil Goode (R-reptile)
is a priority.

[gmudem]

10. Plus New Mexico and Colorado at the least

And I think he will win Ohio anyway. And Nevada and North Carolina could happen as well.

[smalll]

11. Um, but Democrats win Iowa anyway. Gore did and Kerry did, didn't they? /nt

[PM7nj]

12. Kerry didn't.

:(

[smalll]

14. Thanks! Sorry, I really forgot about that. I thought Kerry took Iowa. /nt

[Zynx]

19. I personally rather doubt we will be winning Virginia while losing Ohio.

The states' dynamics are not that fundamentally different, if anything Virginia is harder to win. My guess is that if we're carrying Virginia we have already won Ohio.