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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:40 PM
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Crazy About Barack - Obamamania Infects Germany, Der Spiegel

CRAZY ABOUT BARACK
Obamamania Infects Germany

www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,druck-555437,00.html

Berlin political circles -- both liberal and conservative -- are fawning over US presidential candidate Barack Obama. Many in Germany see him as a cross between John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr., but expectations may be exaggerated.

Prost, Barack! Germans are intoxicated by Barack Obama's political message.

Frank-Walter Steinmeier had hoped to meet personally, but Barack Obama has a lot on his plate at the moment and Germany's foreign minister had to make do with a telephone conversation with the presidential candidate during his recent visit to Washington. Still, that's all it took to stir Steinmeier's enthusiasm for the candidate.

The American may be deep in the midst of a campaign, but members of Steinmeier's entourage told SPIEGEL that Obama's foreign policy questions were very engaged, and he peppered his conversation with questions about the German foreign minister's views on Russia, Iran and Afghanistan.

The conversation lasted about 15 minutes and was very focused. Obama's rhetorical "cruising altitude," was apparently quite high, an advisor to Steinmeier said. At the end of the conversation, the Democratic presidential candidate promised to come to Germany as soon as possible.

The few minutes spent on the telephone gave Steinmeier the impression that Obama is prepared to fundamentally reconsider the course of US foreign policy. Steinmeier was impressed, and only a day later he publicly outed himself as the senator's latest fan. "Yes we can," the minister, not known for his emotional outbursts, chanted, evoking Obama's campaign slogan during a speech at Harvard University. Steinmeier used the term to express his desire for a renewal of trans-Atlantic relations.

'Germany Is Obamaland'
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:41 PM
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1. aww
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:42 PM
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2. Germans are usually more levelheaded about political leaders.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 05:00 PM
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13. !
You packed a punch on that one!

:rofl:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:40 AM
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41. OMG
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:43 PM
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3. Great! I will fit right in during my visit in July!!! :)
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 05:20 PM
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16. Really? Where will you be going? n/t
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 07:15 PM
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24. Most of my time will be spent in Garmisch. I will also be in
Edited on Mon May-26-08 07:15 PM by my3boyz
Stuttgart. We don't have a final iteniary yet. I'm very excited about our trip though. :)
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:33 AM
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36. I am very close to you then. Here's where I live
the mountains are Garmisch-P.

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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 04:43 AM
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48. It is soooooooooooooo beautiful!!!!!! You are blessed to live
in such a beautiful place! Seeing that picture really makes me excited for our trip.......... :)
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:00 PM
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52. Sounds like the "classic area" to visit for Americans, the south of Germany...
not where I am unfortunately... ;) hope you enjoy your stay!! Be sure to try the chocolate, if you haven't before, "Milka" is MY favorite. :9
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:44 PM
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4. Not to say anything bad
but should we really be touting German support?

(I'm of German Heritage by the way)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 07:19 PM
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25. Why not? I think the point is mostly that
Anybody who cares about a better Planet is really excited about our candidate..as it should be!!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:45 PM
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5. While traveling the length of Italy last Spring, I discovered the Italians already knew more about
him than I did. Europeans for the most part are extremely well-informed.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:45 PM
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6. Oberhammer!
:D
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 07:20 PM
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26. Obamawurst!
B-)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 07:28 PM
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32. Barackheit
:rofl:
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 07:57 PM
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34. Obamafernugen...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 08:05 PM
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35. Fahr out!
:rofl:
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:07 AM
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51. OberObamaGau
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:51 PM
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7. I have a german sister-in-law
Big fan!
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:51 PM
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8. We're going to see more of this world-wide
after 8 years of George Bush the whole freakin' world wants CHANGE.
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livingmadness Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 05:28 PM
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21. As an ex-pat its amazing how much excitement Obama generates GLOBALLY!
Truly amazing!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 07:21 PM
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27. Got that right...it's not just our little
isolated country that cares for Change!
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:51 PM
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9. Obviously they are misogynist and therefore support the MALE candidate.
Like that Merkel fellow running Germany now.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:55 PM
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11. OMG, duzy.
:rofl:
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:41 AM
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42. LOL seconded n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 07:22 PM
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28. Good POINT!
:7
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 07:28 PM
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33. Totally! They LOVED it when gw gave their leader a shoulder rub!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:55 PM
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10. The "Cult" is spreading like wildfire..
Resistance is futile!}(
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 07:24 PM
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30. Never thought I'd be part
of World Wide Cult}(
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pdxmike Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:56 PM
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12. all snark aside...
This is (for me) the most intriguing thing about the Obama candidacy. I wanted Gore to get in the race, was an early supporter of Edwards, but have also been intrigued by other candidates (I have to admit that HRC never did appeal to me- but that's another matter).
The fact that a President Obama would present an entirely different American face to the world is very important. Very few Americans realize the iconic role that JFK played around the world. He was the young, energetic, forward looking face of the "new America". Our current "brand" is the sclerotic visages of Bush and Cheney. I am so looking forward to the front pages of Der Spiegel etc having the smiling faces of Barack and Michele(sp?) Obama. Talk about rebranding!
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OneDemsConscience Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 05:16 PM
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14. Well said
Its clear that any Democratic president would have the advantage of worldwide popularity and the United States would get a 'clean slate'. This factor is even more significant for Obama--he represents America as a diverse and human nation--he is everything Bush and Cheney are not.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 05:19 PM
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15. Took the "Spiegel" magazine long enough...
not too long ago you could read there about what a dreamy illusion Obama is and how Clinton is all substance. The author who wrote that saw his error by now though ( not the author the piece above ).
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 07:26 PM
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31. Wow, I remember that article..
Give her enough time and rope and they can see it as far away as Germany.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:35 AM
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37. yes, the Washington correspondent was a real Clinton lover
I remember him well. Maybe someone served him a pizza? :rofl:
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:43 PM
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55. "Gabor Steingart", a self-absorbed
ass. Met Clinton years ago for an interview and was sooo tremendously impressed with her that he wouldn't open his eyes to reality.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:02 PM
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53. I noticed that too n/t
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 05:21 PM
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17. Add Germany to the list of countries that prefer Obama.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 05:23 PM
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18. send forth the buses.
germany is dead to me.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:50 AM
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45. LOL
:rofl: :rofl:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 05:24 PM
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19. I will be in Germany in a month
YAY!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:36 AM
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38. Where you headed?
We've got some DU'ers over here. Meet up?

Paging MHC! :applause:
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 05:27 PM
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20. I just don't see what the followers see in Obama
Some apparently are immune.
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:36 AM
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39. eyes wide shut?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 05:32 PM
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22. Compared to Bush I would imagine most of the world is estactic at the possiblity
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 06:49 PM
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23. K/R.
:kick:
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 07:22 PM
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29. I suspect germans will just be grateful
that the US elects a president that doesn't grope their Chancellor...
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:39 AM
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40. I can't help it: WOOT! (nt)
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:45 AM
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43. He repeated YES WE CAN?
:woohoo:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:48 AM
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44. I guess so, Germans are VERY psyched for Barack.
I love wearing my shirt over here, I get tons of looks. :D
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:56 AM
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46. Are there any German Obama trinkets?
:woohoo:

I wish I could come visit!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 04:29 AM
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47. Not that I have seen, only the ones I have brought
back with me from the USA. Buttons, bumperstickers, t-shirts. Everyone WANTS them here too!
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 04:45 AM
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49. Wow...that is so awesome! Sounds like my kind of place for sure...nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:02 PM
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54. Ja, koennen Wir!
:thumbsup:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:40 AM
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50. Echo, echo!!
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:54 PM
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56. I was in Dresden earlier this month
and everyone is excited about Obama. Went out one night after work wearing my Obama T-shirt, and didn't have to buy a drink the rest of the night! I was born in Germany (military brat), so I understand the culture better than some, and the anticipation of a new America is palpable.
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jordi_fanclub Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 04:20 PM
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57. Yes, they are "crazy"... here's a picture from last Carnival in Germany...
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