Lanny Davis' solution for Michigan: Give Hillary 101 pledged delegates to Obama's 27

[TeamJordan23]

So basically punish Obama for taking his name off the ballot by giving Hillary 101 of Michigan's 128 Delegates.

:rofl: :rofl:

A possible solution

So what is the fairest solution for the Rules Committee, taking into account Michigan's and Florida's willingness to revote but for the failure of the Obama campaign to sit down and work out details to solve their "concerns"?

It is rather simple. Go back, in effect, to the status quo ante and make some reasonable and fair adjustments.

In Michigan, Clinton received 55 percent of the vote. According to Thegreenpapers.com, she thus should receive 73 pledged delegates based on that percentage.

What about the 50 remaining uncommitted delegates, and 7 collectively cast for Sen. Chris Dodd and Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich, who were also on the ballot?

Some of those 50 delegates might have been for Clinton as a second choice to candidates other than Obama, so it would be totally unfair to award all 50 delegates to Obama.

One little known fact: Clinton complied with party rules by allowing her name to remain on the ballot, as did Dodd and Kucinich. Obama was not forced by party rules to remove his name — he chose to do so.

The Rules Committee has several options. The fairest would be to allocate those 57 pledged delegates, to Clinton and Obama by the same ratio of their standing to one another in the average of the most recent Michigan statewide polls prior to the Jan. 15 primary. Or perhaps one Solomonic compromise, more generous to Obama than to Clinton, would be to divide the remaining delegates approximately 50-50 between the two of them, 28-27 (giving Clinton the extra delegate since she led in all the latest statewide polls prior to Jan. 15).

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10614_Page2.html

[Swamp Rat]

1. That is an improbable solution.

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[Hola]

23. No logic

Even Hillary will be hard pressed to understand why she should get uncommitted delegates since her name was on the ballot. What's next give Kucinich and Gravel uncommitted delegates too?

[saltpoint]

2. You could empty a State hospital's pharmacy shelves and still fall well

short of an efficacious dose to quell Lanny Davis' refractory psychosis.

[DJ13]

3. The Clinton camp has determined they need to make untrealistic demands

......so they have an excuse to try and keep it going until the convention.

[KittyWampus]

8. If FL & MI Democratic party accept DNC compromise, Hillary has no case

[DJ13]

11. True...... but Hillary's supporters are in control of those state's party

They can stall if Hillary wants them too.

[Window]

14. But, are they nuts??

[RooferDem]

4. Lanny Davis broke my heart in the fall of 1983.

He told me what the real meaning of the word "crapulent" was. It broke my heart.

Also, he has very many fine pinstriped suits and a fantastic haircut!

[panader0]

7. And the meaning is???

[WeDidIt]

5. Actually, the DNC did request names be removed

By requesting candidates neither campaign or particiapte, the request to remove names was made.

Lanny Davis is another one I'll never look at as anything other than another Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh type, along with all Clintons, Carville, Bartcop, and a ton of other assholes.

[TexasObserver]

6. Hillary will not get more than 55% of the Michigan delegates, if that.

Lanny Davis suffers from the lack of oxygen which naturally results from having his head stuck up Bill or Hillary's ass.

[anigbrowl]

9. What a 'tard.

People in MI who wanted to vote for Clinton already had the option to do so. Could you imagine Kerry arguing that since Bush has become less popular since his re-election, we should switch presidents?

[DanTex]

10. "some reasonable and fair adjustments"

Wow. This might be the silliest example of "Clinton math" yet. The chain of twisted logic is two whole pages long!

Don't these people realize that you can't propose 10 different ways of counting the votes, and then claim that each one of them is the "fairest"?

[dbmk]

12. Id say you should split them as they have split "stragglers" so far

Which would be 80-20 in Obamas favour, give or take.

IF it were to go along those lines that is.

[Johnny__Motown]

13. The 69-59 split seems to be the most likely outcome

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/05/fl-mi-by-numbers.html

[pansypoo53219]

15. more than what she actually earned?

what is this? affirmative action candidate?

[grantcart]

16. Your wrong on the name removal it was part of the pledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Democratic_primary,_2008

The decision of the DNC diminished the significance of the Michigan primary.<5> On October 9, 2007, following Michigan's breach of DNC rules, Barack Obama, Bill Richardson, Joe Biden, and John Edwards withdrew from the Michigan Democratic Primary ballot.<6> Dennis Kucinich unsuccessfully sought to remove his name from the ballot.<7> Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd decided to remain on the ballot.<8> Although Clinton said she would honor a pledge that she and the other Democratic candidates had earlier made to refrain from campaigning or participating in Michigan,<8> Clinton and Dodd drew sharp criticism from Biden, who stated that the two candidates had "chosen to hedge their bets" and had "abandoned Democrats in Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, and South Carolina" by staying on the ballot.<8><9>


Here is what the pledge said

... I _______________, Democratic Candidate for President, pledge

I shall not campaign or participate in any state

which schedules a presidential election primary or caucus before Feb. 5, 2008, except for the states of Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina, as “campaigning” is defined by rules and regulations of the DNC.

The only way to not participate is to remove your name.

[BobbyVan]

17. This seems fair to me

[Doityourself]

21. Why?

[haymakeragain]

24. hehehe, good one.

You're joking right? If there were ever a flawed primary election it was that one. The whole thing should be thrown out and re-voted with Obama on the ballot and campaigning allowed. If no re-vote, then shit can it all together.

[BobbyVan]

25. Hillary and her people were pushing for a revote months ago

Obama killed the idea

[yourguide]

18. Lanny Davis is a friggin crack head.

[butterfly77]

19. These people are fucking crazy...

she is sounding more and more like Bush everyday..

[Doityourself]

20. Lanny is a vile, creepy little leprechaun..ugh

[americanstranger]

22. They take a lot of acid in the Clinton campaign, don't they?

That's one of the most tortured, twisted rationales for awarding bad behavior ever.

You don't get to that level of incoherence without the aid of good drugs.

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