Bill Clinton: 'my fight was over on April 9th'

[kpete]

Bill Clinton: "On April 7, we also won in Kansas, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. On April 9, Paul Tsongas announced that he would not reenter the race. The fight for the nomination was effectively over."

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When Was the 1992 Presidential Race Over?

Despite Sen. Hillary Clinton's insistence that her husband didn't clinch the Democratic presidential nomination until June 1992, Bill Clinton had a very different recollection in his own memoir, My Life.

He writes: "On April 7, we also won in Kansas, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. On April 9, Paul Tsongas announced that he would not reenter the race. The fight for the nomination was effectively over."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/05/26/when_was_the_1992_presidential_race_over.html

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/26/223028/306/444/523329

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NYT
Check Point
The Trouble With June 1992 as a Case for Pressing On

By JIM RUTENBERG
Published: May 27, 2008

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The news media’s attention focused on Mrs. Clinton’s invocation of the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy after the California primary in June 1968. But she also cited the 1992 contest that ended with Bill Clinton’s nomination.

“My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary,” Mrs. Clinton told the paper’s editorial board, “somewhere in the middle of June.”

But for weeks before that June 2 contest, few doubted that Mr. Clinton would be the party’s nominee, including those involved with the campaign of his remaining challenger, former Gov. Jerry Brown of California.

“Even if it wasn’t technically finished, it was clear to everybody involved that it was over well before June,” Steve McMahon, a media strategist for Mr. Brown in the 1992 race, said Monday in an interview.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/27/us/politics/27checkpoint.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin

[ossman]

1. and the first primary was in Feb, not Jan

[Catherina]

2. I'm gonna be so happy to see them leave the stage. Rec'd n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. You and me both.

[Catherina]

18. Here's a toast to that day

:toast:

[dkf]

3. Seriously, does Hillary not remember stuff or is she misleading us?

But as another poster said, if you are debating dumb or evil, somebody has already lost.

[sandnsea]

4. IN 1968 there were only 15 primaries

We chose candidates at the convention then. Most states chose them through the state party, not any kind of election at all.

The real story is the way she's been just plain old lying about all of this for months.

[cliffordu]

5. Yep. Kicked

[grantcart]

17. lol you were just waiting for this one Clifford

[cliffordu]

19. I am becoming predictable, ain't I??

:rofl:

[FrenchieCat]

6. She lies a lot, thinks its normal, and knows her LIV won't figure it out.....

[City Lights]

7. Funny how they change the facts to suit their current needs.

And think we're too dumb to notice. :eyes:

[Yael]

8. Soooo. They about ready to rescind their endorsement yet?

[OzarkDem]

9. and you want to ask him for his help unifying the party?

:rofl:

[ProSense]

21. Who? The OP? What the hell are you talking about? Why do your nonsensical comments crack you up?

Are you crazy?

[OzarkDem]

26. Keep insulting Bill Clinton

and his wife while your candidate insists Bill help him "unite the party". You're all crazy.

[guruoo]

32. Destroying the Clintons is more important to them, appairently.

[MessiahRp]

27. I find it hilarious that Hillary Supporters on here slander and accuse Obama and his supporters

of everything they can think of and every single time someone hits back they whine about how Obama or his supporters by fighting back will never create "unity" in the party.

It's like you are all preschoolers who wait for teacher to look the other way and smack another kid. Then when the kid smacks back you go bawling to the teacher because they don't get along with you.

Frankly I could care less if the Clintons, the DLCers and those too ignorant to understand that the Democratic Party is not about corporatism or the Clinton Cronies go whining all the way home and never come back.

Frankly that's the problem with our party as it is. Clinton and the DLC moved our party to the right. So far to the right that a right wing nutcase like Bush came off as a compassionate conservative even though he surrounded himself with Neo-Con warhawks and nobody knew any better because they weren't *that different* from the party in power. He caved to every RW demand while in power (Don't Ask, Don't Tell, DOMA, NAFTA, Media and Corporate De-regulation, Welfare Reform) and in doing so found himself and Hillary lined up with corporate special interest money to prep them for 2008.

In the meantime, Gore saw a lot of the left shift to Ralph Nader in 2000 and others just stayed home during many other elections. We need to become the party of the people again and allow the Republicans to redefine themselves at the party of corporate welfare. To do that we need to see the Clintonites/DLCers and their selfish pro-corporatist policies take a long walk off a short pier.

We'll reclaim the left, shrink the Independent base (whom mostly stay independent because they think there is no difference between the parties, because with Clinton and the DLC there isn't) and bring them to our side and we'll win the honorable way. By doing right by the citizens. This is the spine Russ Feingold always wants us to grow quite frankly.

Rp

[Connie_Corleone]

10. Hillary is an habitual liar. What else is new?

[Cha]

15. hilary's an inveterate liar and the m$$$fm would

have a field day pointing out all her lies..if only. They have to make up shit about candiates that don't want and cover up shit for candidates like bush and hilary.

[aaaaaa5a]

11. I'm just curious...

Where the contests in Kansas and Minnesota caucuses?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

16. Don't know about Kansas, but in Minnesota we had caucuses in 1992.

I guess our caucuses counted then, even though they didn't this time. :sarcasm:

[hfojvt]

23. I googled it. Kansas had a primary

This article makes it sound like they did not think it was gonna be over.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE3DD1030F930A35757C0A964958260

The really amazing thing to me from reading one page of that article was that Kansas had a Democratic Governor and a Democratic majority in the state house. Something that was apparently lost in the 1990s.

[Erin Elizabeth]

13. So was Hillary *always* this much of a liar?

[Bread and Circus]

14. Hillary being caught in another falsehood? Oh my, say it aint so!

:scared:

[hfojvt]

24. the same lie I caught her on in February

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/84

Let's not hold our breath waiting for the AP or a TV network to cover it. But now that Huffpo has written about it, it may make its way to Olbermann and get some legs.

[slinkerwink]

20. Ah, thank you for pointing this out, Bill.

[zulchzulu]

22. What? You mean Bill and Hillary were lying again? Really?

:puke:

The Clintons: If their mouths are moving, there is a 90% chance they are lying.

[AZBlue]

25. It was actually in March, but at least he's closer than his wife.

Both are lying however.
No shock.

[gulfcoastliberal]

28. Just like she was named after Edmund Hillary, just like she had to run for cover from sniper fire,

just like she was really *against* NAFTA as 1st lady, etc, ad nauseum.

Crazy *unt.

[onehandle]

29. "effectively over" "Even if it wasn’t technically finished"

A politician made a point using a technical truth. Big deal.

And I'm not a Hillary supporter.

[ladywnch]

30. you gotta wonder if these two are really married......have they ever

lived together......do they even talk to each other.....EVER? Both of them have written memoires and yet neither can keep straight what each other has written as being the "truth" about their life and times. Makes ya wonder.

[Willo]

31. What happens every time someone tries to defend Hillary's BS?

They end up standing alone ass out.