Obama beats McCain in Colorado, Oregon, Iowa, Michigan, and Wisconsin while Hillary does not!

[thewiseguy]

There is Hillary's electability argument for you. Thats a difference of 50 electoral votes.

Colorado head to head data: (Obama consistently wins while Hillary loses in all Colorado polls)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/colorado.html

Oregon RCP average

Obama 49.7 McCain 39.3

Hillary 43.7 McCain 44

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/oregon.html

Washington RCP average

Obama 49.7 McCain 39.7

Hillary 44.3 McCain 42.7

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/washington.html

Iowa RCP average

Obama 47.3 McCain 41.7

Hillary 42.3 McCain 45

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/iowa.html

Michigan RCP average (Where Hillary wants all the votes counted eventhough Obama's name was not on the ballot)

Obama 44.3 McCain 43.7

Hillary 41.7 McCain 44.7

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/michigan.html

Wisconsin RCP average

Obama 46.3 McCain 44.7

Hillary 43.3 McCain 46.7

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/wisconsin.html

So here is the math for the polls that I just posted

Obama wins 50 electoral votes while Hillary loses in states mentioned above.

[redstate_democrat]

1. Thank you for pointing this out.

What more needs to be said?

[NJSecularist]

2. Hillary is not losing Michigan or Washington.

And it's up in the air whether Obama would win Wisconsin. Every since Wisconsin, his numbers with whites have tanked.

[thewiseguy]

3. Yes she is losing Michigan

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/michigan.html

And in my OP or thread title I never said she was losing Washington. Learn to read.

[NJSecularist]

4. No, she isn't.

Hillary would win 85-90% of the black vote and win more white voters in Michigan than Obama. She stands a better chance of winning that state than him.

[thewiseguy]

5. I dont care about your silly reasoning I am looking at the averages

[NJSecularist]

6. You have one poll within the last month where she is tied.

The other polls are hideously outdated.

[thewiseguy]

7. The EPIC-MRA is a local Michigan poll and I trust them more than you

[spyinguatemala]

10. The EPIC-MRA poll was conducted 1 month and a half ago

That does not reflect the current situation.

The poll was conducted April 3-8. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

http://www.mlive.com/elections/index.ssf/2008/04/obama_does_better_against_mcca.html

[spyinguatemala]

9. Misleading

Do you think it's fair to include April 3rd polls into the mix? Only that way Clinton loses to McCain.

In May polls, where only one has conducted, she's tied.

[thewiseguy]

12. Goodbye. I wonder who you were.

[FrenchieCat]

15. Mighty quick they are! hey?

[reggie the dog]

16. what?

Obam wins the pledged delegates, Clinton is nominated, and you think that 85 to 90 percent of blacks will vote Democrat???? I venture to say that in such a scenario most blacks would not vote or vote Green to show the Democratic establishment how pissed off they were.

[cliffordu]

11. Link, please. Prove it or clam up.

[cloudythescribbler]

17. OP left out polls for CO, and WA avg SHOWED Hillary (narrowly) winning ...

In all fairness, it also makes sense to show polls in states where Hillary Clinton OUTPERFORMS Obama (as in Florida), while Krugman in the Tuesday NY Times focuses ONLY on Florida, which is equally misleading.

[Cha]

8. hilary schmilary...she's so

last primary.. By Gawd..I'm betting NOthing happens to Obama.

[napi21]

13. It's too soon to know! No matter what you hear on the MSN

there's no way that ALL the Hillary supporters wouldn't support Obama, nor is there any way that all the Obama supporters wouldn't support Hillary! You're being snookered by the MSN AGAIN!! Those polls are no more accurate that anyone who says because Hillary won NY Obama couldn't! Stop listening to their BS! The primary will be over in less than 2 weeks. THEN we can begin watching national polls about who's winning. the Dem or the Pub!

[thewiseguy]

14. Honestly I dont care much for these polls.

Since some Hillary supporters were so excited about posting polls I felt like doing that just to provide a better picture. :)