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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 07:45 AM
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Hill enablers: If she is electable, why are SD's and Senate colleagues abandoning her?
The superdelegates exist and were created to exercise superior judgment as to who would make the best Democratic candidate. Hillary Clinton began this primary season with a seemingly insurmountable advantage among superdelegates: by nearly a 3:1 advantage.

Today, many of those superdelegates have defected from her to Obama. But these were *her* supers. If these supers have the responsibility to choose the right person, shouldn't they have stuck with Hillary? Why would her own supers defect to Obama if they are convinced that Hillary is the better candidate with more experience? if they are convinced that she is the more electable than Obama?

Are the superdelegates simply "stupid" Obamabots like we are here in DU?

Further, Hillary has experience right? She has spent exactly two more years than Obama in the U.S. Senate. Additionally most of her colleagues have known the Clintons for 20, 30+ years. THEY KNOW HER!! So why have more of her Senate colleagues endorsed Obama, a political neophyte who Hill enablers argue is unelectable, to be the Democratic nominee?

These are the primary issues that Hillary enablers have failed to address:

1. Why have the superdelegates abandoned Hillary to support Obama if she is the best candidate?

and...

2. Why have more of Hillary's own colleagues in the Senate chosen Obama over her? (I believe that Obama is beating Hillary in terms of U.S. Senate endorsements.)
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 07:55 AM
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1. You'll have to wait a few minutes....
to get some replies. The three resident hill supporters that dwell here 24/7 have gone over to hillaryis44 to alert the troops. They'll trickle in shortly.

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:07 AM
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2. She has been roundly rejected by her Democratic colleagues in the senate
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:12 AM
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3. You heard Billy, it's a conspiracy against his lovely wife...that's why!
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:16 AM
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4. It's a coverup I tell you! What a freakin' joke the Clintons have become.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:21 AM
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6. It's now a vast Left Wing Conspiracy! LOL..they are unreal
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:21 AM
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5. The majority of SD's are men, so that means....
they must all be misogynist, sexists pigs. Oh, that's coming, count on it.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:13 AM
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17. The irony of their sexist/misogynist claims: Bill treat women like disposable toiletpaper. n/t
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:23 AM
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19. Is there another kind of toilet paper?
Blech. :puke:
:P
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:27 AM
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22. Nope. It's always disposable , just like Bill's women. n/t
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:25 AM
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7. Very interesting how they don't respond to facts. Cognitive dissonance at its finest...
But they know how to project their hatred for Obama onto Obama and his supporters. None of their arguments are based on irrefutable facts, just innuendo and misstatements. The "popular vote" argument is their last hope. But even that is a fallacious argument: she is NOT winning the popular vote. Sadly the media pundits have bought into this argument without doing their own homework.

The only scenario in which she is winning the popular vote is if you discount the caucuses and award her with all the votes from FL and MI. It's so disingenuous and I can't understand how the Hill enablers are able to sleep at night.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:32 AM
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8. The Democratic Party has a history of losing elections it should have won.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:33 AM
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10. You didn't answer the question.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:35 AM
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11. The reason for that? Three simple words...
DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP COUNCIL
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:54 AM
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14. Nope. Two words:
No balls.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:57 AM
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15. No balls DemoCRAPS = Democratic Leadership Council
The DLC is the outfit that capitulated to Bush and the Republicans time and time again on everything from the IWR, to the Patriot Act, to Kyl-LIEberman. Only the progressive Democrats, the TRUE Democrats stood up for truth and they were maligned and demonized for it.

DemoCRAPS = Democratic Leadership Council

Democrats = Democrats who are true to traditional progressive principles.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:11 AM
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16. Uh huh...
...the Democratic Party also has a history of "eating it's own." This is a typical example.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:21 AM
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18. another myth. The myth that DLC is the Democrats' "own," when in reality they are repukes
The DLCers are nothing but Trojan Horse DINOs, repuke infiltrators who buy into the neocon wet dream of war profiteering, global plundering, offshoring to third-world sweatshops, good ole boy backroom deals, death squad security for agribusiness, and election manipulation. So I'm sure you'd be more comfortable voting for McSame, since the latest DLC front person is NOT going to be president or vice president in any way, shape, or form. Not this time.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:32 AM
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9. Why are you looking for logic?
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:43 AM
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12. Because the congressional democrats have the utmost fortitude in the face
of adversity, never wavering from their fight for democratic principles, and have the highest integrity.... as we read about every day in the pages of DU.

:eyes:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:44 AM
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13. They're all sexist
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:25 AM
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20. You need a calendar
"She has spent exactly two more years than Obama in the U.S. Senate"


Hillary was elected to the Senate in 2000
Obama was elected in 2004
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:26 AM
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21. Oh, please..........
Politicians are by and large people who will go against their own mother if it were to benefit them politically. They are siding with Obama because he has the majority of the pledged delegates. If it were the other way around, they would have dropped him like a hot potato.

BTW, Hillary has more than 2 years US senate experience than Obama. She entered the senate in 2001 and Obama in 2005.
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