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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:17 AM
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Hillary Clinton is a victim of herself. (Please Read)
Edited on Tue May-27-08 09:14 AM by stratomagi
I wrote this as a response to another post, though it got long enough that I thought it might be worthy of being an OP since I usually write mostly one liners here and there.

Even before this primary started it was a foregone conclusion that she would be the nominee at the end of it all and most democrats were ready to align behind her. However despite her claims of being vetted and ready on day one she continuously mismanaged her campaign throughout the primaries, including having no strategy after Super Tuesday, and also committed numerous gaffes including outright lying about NAFTA and Bosnia, as well as having conflicts of interest between what she said on the trail and what her campaign staff did a la the Columbian Trade deal.

I'll be honest, I never really liked Clinton from the beginning. Mainly because I knew from the start she was more about self promotion, rather than doing anything for the country. That being said when this all began I assumed I'd be pulling the lever for her in November no matter what happened in the primary. Fortunately I now have an alternative.

I have always thought that Hillary was a very intelligent person, then again I also think Condoleezza Rice is very intelligent too, though I would never in a million years vote for her for president.

I'm honestly a little surprised at how some of her supporters are reacting to her defeat. Instead of examining where she went wrong, they spout the campaigns own talking points about sexism and unfairness. These same people were of course silent when the media was drilling us with Jeramiah Wright for weeks on end. But look, Barack Obama survived all that. Hillary Clinton has proven unable to handle a situation like that.

What did Obama do that she did not? Well when it all came out about Wright Obama engaged the public directly about Wright and about the broader issues that topic entailed through live press conferences. What did Clinton do? After alluding to RFK's assassination as a reason to continue on in a primary where she is virtually defeated she wrote an op-ed snark (worthy of GD-P I might add)about how she is right and everyone else is wrong. If you compare the two flaps and the candidates subsequent reactions you can see why Clinton is behind. If anything the reason she has remained within around 150 delegates behind is only because people keep giving her the benefit of the doubt!

I think in the end most Clinton supporters will have to come to terms with the fact that they were sold a bill of goods on Clinton and she did not deliver. You will have to face facts, Hillary Clinton was a poor and disappointing candidate which is the ONLY reason she is losing, and it is just another reason she wouldn't have made a good POTUS!

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:19 AM
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1. K & R! n/t
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:20 AM
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2. Her eyes fixed blindly on the prize, she ignores reality.
Edited on Tue May-27-08 08:33 AM by marylanddem
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:29 AM
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4. Reminds me of the current president to be honest.
We don't need the left wing version of the last 8 years!
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:22 AM
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3. Excellent. k&r
:thumbsup:
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:50 AM
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5. Welp!
Like the Post I was responding to I guess I'll try one good and shameless self kick before I let my pretty strings of words die.

what I was responding to:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6143099&mesg_id=6143099
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:37 AM
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6. K/R.
:kick:
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:40 PM
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7. Bingo!
"Hillary Clinton was a poor and disappointing candidate..."

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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:53 PM
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8. Actually, has been very formidable as a candidate, but lost due to poor early campaign strategy.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:23 AM
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15. Poor strategy and also a poor candidate.
A candidate who cannot honestly explain why she voted for the Iraq War, because she approved it for cynical, self-serving reasons. A candidate who petulantly complains that she always gets the first question, a candidate who coyly implies that her opponent might be a Muslim, a candidate who just does not connect, who lacks talent. Her campaign organization was a disaster but even had it been impeccable I don't know that she had what it takes to win over voters.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:01 PM
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9. Excellent post!
You should beak the one-liner habit. Good job!
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:12 PM
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11. Its hard for me.
I get all worked up and bury myself in points I want to make before I even write the first line, then I get frustrated and give up and just K&R! or snark on someone else's post. Getting better at it by participating on here. I'm still at maybe 20% substance, 80% fluff.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:30 PM
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12. I completely understand!
I am more likely to respond with "K&R" or "BINGO!" than anything else myself! LOL! But you done good, so if the mood strikes you again, GO WITH IT! :pals:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:11 PM
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10. Great post!
Nice photo too!! K&R
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:53 AM
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13. Sorry, not buying
and your sig doesn't help much either to promote the "Great Uniter."
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 02:29 AM
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16. Where there is doubt there is liberty?
Didn't know that was so divisive. :shrug:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:04 AM
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21. Actually, now that I look at it closer, I meant the train wreck pic.
You people want to unite the party? Then start practicing what your guy preaches.
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:41 AM
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22. I wrote about this sort of thing a few days ago.
I'm not voting for Obama because he acts the same way I do, I'm voting for him because he's way more even tempered than I am which is why he would make a good president and I would not. And besides 1. the pic goes well with the theme of the post, my opinion on the matter is that Hillary did this to herself and has no one else to blame. 2. I don't think its beneficial to start getting holier than thou when you probably don't go on threads similar or worse than mine started by Hillary supporters advocating that they take the higher ground. 3. Uniting the party doesn't have anything to do with blindly ignoring the fact that at the end of the day Hillary failed herself and most of all her supporters.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:57 AM
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14. ....
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 02:48 AM
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17. Recommended. Good read.
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coyotespaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 02:53 AM
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18. In spite of your damnable avatar, I have to give this a K&R n/t
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:00 AM
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19. LOL!
Fortunately it's the off season otherwise you might not be saying that. :evilgrin:
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coyotespaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:13 AM
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20. I'd still give you the K&R...
but it'd be out of sympathy for the losses that are coming your way.

:headbang:
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