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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:18 AM
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Hillary Dangerfield Gets No Respect
Bill Clinton gave a speech in South Dakota on Sunday in which he continued to promote the theory of a media conspiracy against Hillary, and suggested the Democratic Party should nominate his wife "unless we want to lose the election." If that weren’t enough, Bill added that he has "never seen a candidate treated so disrespectfully just for running."

I’m not certain because I wasn’t there, but there must have been a short man in a white suit standing by Bill’s side, pointing to the sky and shouting "the planes boss, the planes". Clearly, Bill has taken up residence on Fantasy Island.

First to the idea of a media conspiracy against Hillary. Would that be the same media that made Hillary the frontrunner before a single vote was cast? The same media that gave the Democratic Primary field the name Hillary and the Seven Dwarfs in the weeks and months before Obama’s upset win in Iowa? That media, Bill? The way I remember it, it was the Mainstream Media that had all but coronated Hillary Clinton since the day she announced her candidacy.

Now to the notion that only Hillary can beat John McCain in the general election. On this point I suspect Bill may have a dyslexia problem as he reads the general election polls. As I interpret the data from RealClearPolitics, in the cumulative results from 7 different pollsters, Obama leads McCain in 4 polls, they are running even in 2, and McCain leads Obama in only one.

On the issue of R-E-S-P-E-C-T, I would contend that the Clintons received undeserved respect for too long in the days following Super Tuesday. Obviously, Hillary and her staff had no plan or strategy for that time. They assumed that the race would be over and they could turn their focus to the general election. And everybody knows the old saying about ASS-U-ME-D.

Hillary was not prepared for a long struggle and did not have the organization in place after Super Tuesday, causing her to lose 11 straight contests. That lack of being able to assess the field and plan accordingly does not speak well of someone who wants to run an effective general election campaign against John McCain, or someone who wants to run the country for that matter.

What has proven to be true is that the support for Hillary was 10 miles wide and 1/4 inch deep. Democrats supported her because they thought she could win. What they saw when Obama starting gaining momentum was a candidate that could win whose last name was not Clinton and did not carry all the baggage that goes along with that name.

It had nothing to do with respect. In my opinion, it was and is, all about CFS (Clinton Fatigue Syndrome). This is an illness not only within the Democratic Party, but one that has spread to the country as a whole.


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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:19 AM
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1. Link please? To any thread you've ever started about Barack Obama?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:30 AM
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:17 AM
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5. Here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6104816&mesg_id=6104816

I've posted 100's of positive Obama threads about my GOTV work for him in PA, recaps and pics of seeing him in person and of literature I received from both campaigns, not to mention 100's of positive articles & Op-Eds I've posted. I've also posted positive articles about Mrs. Clinton. Now it's your turn.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:37 AM
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6. Still Waiting...
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:58 AM
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7. And Waiting...
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:17 PM
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8. And Still Waiting...
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:45 PM
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9. Do You Not Have A Link To Any Positive Posts To Offer? Just Say So
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 04:04 PM
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10. Ever notice how it doesn't WORK when you try that on Obama people?
I know how terribly mollifying and uncomfortable it is when you are asked to back some BS accusation up, but it only works that way because the assertions are almost always BS.

When the Obama people are asked to back something up, like here;
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5748700&mesg_id=5749920
Here;
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5600433&mesg_id=5603097
and of course here;
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6144848#6145482

- It doesn't have the same effect that it does on you because they can actually back it up!
Isn't that fascinating!

Meanwhile, no matter how many times I ask, you guys just run away;
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5896810&mesg_id=5897454

How sad you don't realize how sexist you really are MP.

What? You need me to 'back it up'?

Oh, well here ya' go;
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6000068&mesg_id=6001821


Reality will welcome you back when you're ready.

Good Luck,

Dr. E
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:19 AM
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2. Hillary doesn't deserve respect after the Rovian way she conducted her campaign.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:30 AM
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4. Respect is earned
not given...
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 04:15 PM
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11. Even Rodney is appalled...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 04:23 PM
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12. hilary Dangerfield commands no respect..
If bil clinton is whining 'cause hilary gets no respect then this is first time I've believed that big finger waggin' dog.

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