Bill Clinton used SAME TACTIC in 1992 campaign against Jerry Brown

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It's really becoming a living testament of truth & facts that we are currently witnessing throughout this Democratic nomination campaign between Obama and Hillary. What bothers me the most about the Clinton's selective strategy of continued attacks of twisted distortions of truth against Obama is that BOTH BILL & HILLARY KNOW BETTER. They know exactly what the score is in this campaign and if the shoe were on the other foot, THEY WOULD HAVE APPLIED EXACTLY THE SAME STRATEGY they are accusing Obama of doing......ooh, wait a minute, THEY DID!


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" “My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary,” Mrs. Clinton told the paper’s editorial board, “somewhere in the middle of June.”

But for weeks before that June 2 contest, few doubted that Mr. Clinton would be the party’s nominee, including those involved with the campaign of his remaining challenger, former Gov. Jerry Brown of California.

“Even if it wasn’t technically finished, it was clear to everybody involved that it was over well before June,” Steve McMahon, a media strategist for Mr. Brown in the 1992 race, said Monday in an interview."



“Senator Obama’s supporters in the media began calling on Senator Clinton to drop out as early as February,” Mr. Wolfson said. “This is one of the closest nominating contests in American history, and the constant calls for Senator Clinton to quit are unwarranted and inappropriate.”

Yet the Clinton campaign in 1992 used some of the same tactics that Mrs. Clinton and her supporters now decry, like declaring the nomination secure early and encouraging party leaders and the news media to climb on board.

In the weeks before the California primary that year, much of the attention was already focused on the general election, with Mr. Clinton treated as the presumed Democratic nominee challenging President George Bush. Sights were set on November, with speculation about how Ross Perot, a well-financed independent candidate, would affect the prospects of the two men.

Recalling the race on The Huffington Post over the weekend, William Bradley, a California political strategist-turned-writer, said he had personally delivered a message to the Clinton campaign before the California primary that Mr. Brown “would run no TV ads in the California primary and would pull back from the sharp attacks,” in recognition of Mr. Clinton’s strength.


When will we see Hillary Clinton give Barack Obama the SAME LEVEL of RESPECT of recognition that Bill Clinton received from Jerry Brown back in 92' campaign?


When hell freezes over.



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/27/us/politics/27checkpoint.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin

[tularetom]

1. Nothin to worry about here

Obama knows he's got her by the ovaries. He doesn't have to rub it in. Right now he's letting her destroy herself and Bill is stupidly rushing in and making things even worse. Nobody's buying this shit and it's only demeaning to the clintons.

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2. It really bothers me to see Bill Clinton, a former President, stoop down to this level and promote

outright distortions against Obama knowingly using the SAME strategy back in 92' against Brown. The thing that rubs me the most is that Bill & Hillary outright lie & distort truths & facts thinking that the majority of the voting public at large are dumb slope heads and asleep at the wheel and will jump to the sound of BOTH their piped-piper tune every time they use control polarizing trigger words such as " sexism or white people ". It has become so sad indeed.

[LiberalArkie]

3. Bill Clinton is a politician. This is just a game, nothing personal.

Just look at what the congress critters say to each other and then kissy kissy afterwards. So it is only our jobs, our money, our children, to them it is just a game. None of them ever got over "cops and Robbers" or "Cowboys and Indians", just a game. No politician ever reliases what they say and do have consequences in real peoples lives.

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5. I understand the mindless political games LiberalArkie but its really an insult to voters & quite

frankly, very ' elitist and looking-down-their-nose at us intellectual snobbery '. Its no wonder these so called ' public servants ' are tripping over each other trying to crush each other's opposition all-in-the-name of getting elected into office just to serve no other masters but their own circle of influence. And then they want to hold the respectful title of being called ' Honorable members '....ya right!

[Crunchy Frog]

4. IOKIYAC

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6. And they also stake a claim to that also. Nothing is sacred anymore and we are as much to blame for

allowing them to define politics as we know it today.

[JuniperLea]

7. LOL

Hardly. Politics was pretty fucked up before the Clintons hit the scene. You can be pissed at them for going with the flow, but the river was flowing in that direction before they every got to it.

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8. Shit runs upstream and the Clinton's have been paddling up this river for the last 25 years.

[JuniperLea]

9. You have no clue...

Seriously. The Clintons barely made a mark in the grand scheme of political bullshit. You should really do some reading on history and political science.

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10. I don't need to do any homework or brush up on my history Juniperx, you're entitled to your opinion

since one doesn't need to dig up old political bones to gage the bullshit that has been streaming from BOTH these bloodlines, the Clintons & the Bushes. We don't need to go to far back in time and history to best understand how we arrived at today's political climate and where we find ourselves today that has allowed ourselves to become complacent.

[JuniperLea]

11. Spewing bullshit isn't good

Sticking to the truth here is always a better way to go. Do not confuse opinions with facts.

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12. Thanks for the tip Lanny.

[JuniperLea]

13. Insults don't prove your point

Quite the opposite, actually, since that's all you have.

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14. Maybe you should re-read your second post & stop telling others (who's opinion differs from yours)

that they " don't have a clue and they should really do some reading on history and political science. "

This is a discussion forum and the nature of your initial comments are nothing more than a blind attempt to try to insult the basis of one's post.

Let me pose a question for you, ....do you think Bill Clinton's attack on Obama regarding the FL & MI delegate positions is nothing more than political grandstanding and hypocrisy on his part promoting a cheap position to control the media and frame the FL & MI delegate discussion when in fact, he used the exact same strategy against Brown back in 92'?

BTW and FWIW, I would rather play fair with others on these boards and respect their opinions even if I disagree with the content of their posts......

[JuniperLea]

15. Jesus... do you pay attention at all?

Still, you confuse facts with opinions... you cannot opine that the sky is green and the grass is blue when the facts prove otherwise. If you say the grass feels warm, and I think it feels cool, we have a difference of opinion based on something subjective. Facts are not subjective.

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16. Brown had 20% of the delegates. What's her percentage?