haha...David Shuster ripping Clinton advisor right now on MSNBC

[ErinBerin84]

Anyone watching? He is saying "Name ONE media person who said Hillary Clinton should quit?" The advisor avoided the question, and he asked again really loudly "Name ONE PERSON IN THE MEDIA who said that she should quit?" The advisor kept sidestepping and turned it into a generalization of the media. When David Shuster said thank you to her, he added "Actually, Maria. The fact is that no one person that you can point to has asked Hillary Clinton to get out of the race. There is a difference between saying that the math does not favor a candidate and "trying to push a candidate out of the race".


edit: It was with Clinton advisor Maria Cardona. It didn't come off as Shuster was bullying her or anything, she did not handle the questions well at all. And Maria Cardona always interrupts (she did this the other day repeatedly on Dan Abrams when Dan would specifically ask other panelists a question, it was annoying) and comes off as very rude herself, so I have little sympathy for her. She just does not master the spin well. The campaign should have hired Dee Dee Myers (former Clinton staffer) to work on the campaign, she is a Hillary supporer who always frames the debate in reasonable ways that are favorable to Hillary, but comes off as so much more genuine. I'd like to read her book, has anyone read it yet?


second edit: Shuster just shot down a Republican who tried to launch a ridiculous talking point again Obama's advisors just now and corrected her spin. When she shot back something at him, he said again "actually, no, that's not true because, etc" I've honestly always assumed that Shuster was a Republican deep down, what does everyone else think? And everyone, yes, please feel free to say "Shuster is in the tank for Obama", if that's what you think. I'd like everyones opinion. We all know Shuster's history with the Clinton campaign, so I am not saying that he is an entirely unbiased source obviously. He probably relishes the chance to ask the campaign advisors questions that he knows he probably won't get an answer to.

[sniffa]

1. That was a lesser version of Kevin James

:rofl:

[OzarkDem]

2. Nothing new

The media hatefest continues. Sun rises in the east, sets in the west...

[tishaLA]

4. yes, asking direct questions is just hateful

:eyes:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

7. how dare they? And worse base the question on FACT?

how mean! how unfair! how truth based!

[AllentownJake]

18. No candidate has ever been treated

with such disrespect...none ever. :sarcasm:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

27. you know that processed food stuff that exists the end of a bull?

on edit,

Bill should give some thought to the following folks:

Mike Gravel
Dennis Kucinich
Chris Todd
Ron Paul

Agree with them or not, EACH ONE was treated with far more insulting commentary, poor treatment, ignoring their positions, laughing at their physical attributes, attacking them as inconsequential, and worse, than Team Hillary ever received. To deny this is to show just how limited your acquaintance with truth and honesty is. But that seems to be the standard fare from Team HILLARY!, these days at least.

[AllentownJake]

32. Forgot to add Sarcasm

Making fun of Bill :-)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

36. LOL! sorry.

[OzarkDem]

19. Lying is even more hateful

same with intimidating a Clinton staffer because you were revealed as a sexist pig.

[Dinger]

21. Yup

A suspended sexist pig who was welcomed back with open arms!

[ErinBerin84]

in all fairness, Maria never comes off as being intimidated to me.

And this was the case this time as well. She just didn't have an answer to his specific question.

[AllentownJake]

34. Can't take the heat

get out of the kitchen- Right Bill?

I think the President of Iram might be a tad more sexist than MSNBC news personalities.

Just saying :shrug:

[The Doctor.]

37. And you have some way of backing this up, right?

Oh, sorry, I forgot for a moment who I was asking.

[smiley_glad_hands]

46. So asking direct questions is sexism now? If I drink a glass of milk is that sexism too? eom

[endarkenment]

13. In the multiverse sometimes worlds collide.

[AllentownJake]

17. Asking questions of the queen is a well known hate crime

[The Doctor.]

22. Hmmm... there are another set of folks who hate when the media does it's JOB...

When journalists ask tough questions, when people like Helen Thomas express their opinion.... it's at the tip of my brain, a phrase those people use when their beloved leader is raked over the coals.... Oh! Now I remember what they say!

"WHY DO YOU HATE BUSH?!!?"

I knew I heard that somewhere before.

[Crunchy Frog]

41. Ohhhh. Victimization.

:nopity:

[Hope And Change]

3. ..

[Major Hogwash]

5. The ol' "put up or shut up" trick, eh?

Missed it by 'that' much.

~ poor imitation of Maxwell Smart.

[The Doctor.]

40. "Would you believe it wasn't a trick at all but a cunning ploy to make you

think that I thought that I was tricking you?"

Hehehe... I heard Don Adams' voice the moment I read your subject line.

I'm thrilled at the choice of Steve Correl.

[Bensthename]

6. Clintons get called on their bs again.. Just another day for them..

Whining babies make stuff up to lie about.. And the supers respond by going for Obama, thank you supers for being intelligent in this matter.

[MadBadger]

8. He and Tweety have been pushing the same talking point

That the media wants this to continue, so the Clinton argument is complete bullshit


They both are right.

[The_Casual_Observer]

9. And Rove was going to be indicted, it was a fact.

[grantcart]

10. There comes a point when the media gets fed up with it and then they will really turn on a candidate

[PoliticalAmazon]

11. More hosts will pin down the BSers now that Matthews became a hero....

over pinning down Kevin James.

[SeaLyons]

12. Jonathan Alter, Richardson just to name two...

Jonathan said it on Olbermann couple of months ago, and Richardson said it on CNN. The general commentary about Hillary is NEGATIVE, and often insinuates that she should get out. Who can deny that? Shuster must be feeling guilty about his completely unprofessional comments that cost him a couple of weeks off the air.

[asjr]

26. This is payback time for Shuster.

He and his hero, Chris Matthews, think they can do no wrong.

[SeaLyons]

31. I know....just glad their audience is not that large...

[ChairmanAgnostic]

30. any negative commentary or coverage has been earned.

Fairly, squarely and fully deserved. She and her gaggle of liars did it to themselves

[The_Counsel]

49. Alter & Richardson

Alter has been saying for weeks that the numbers simply doesn't favor Hillary. So has Chuck Tood, and just about anyone who's looking past how great this slugfest has been for ratings. I don't remember Alter actually saying the words "Hillary should get out," though. I DO remember him saying "this campaign is over" on Olbermann on Friday evening. Not the same thing, really. But, if you can provide a link to him actually telling Hillary to get out I'll be happy to concede the point.

Now, if you're talking about Bill Richardson, he's not a member of the media, so that really doesn't answer the question, does it?

Of course, none of this addresses the point that if it was Obama who'd taken 12 straight losses, and was behind in every possible reasonable metric, he would have been laughed out of this race some time ago. But Hillary's last name is Clinton, and she has a vagina, so she gets to stick around as long as she wants to. Party and country be damned. :eyes:

One thing for which I give the Clintons credit: They have that "playing the victim" thing down pat.

[wileedog]

51. Because clearly those two represent "The Media" at large

You know, the "most disrepectful coverage ever"...

THe closest a major figure has come was Timmy declaring it over after NC. And there was no push for her to leave or call to get out, there was a simple statement of fact that by all mathmatical considerations the race was over.

Which it was. And it is.

[JimGinPA]

14. Then He Put The Clip Of Carter Saying It's Time For Her To Get Out...

He is on a roll. :rofl:

[tokenlib]

15. Based on Hillogical math--we should all go buy lottery tickets....

The sun is shining--maybe I'll go out and get hit with lightning...

[Debi]

16. Oh, wait...it's okay to like Schuster now? I can't keep this forum straight

:crazy:

ftr I always have liked him, just so many here ... well ...

[papau]

20. Name one week when when David Shuster has not screamed "Why will she not quit"

[Dinger]

23. He Should Have Been Fired, Not Suspended (nt)

[jenmito]

24. Name ONE TIME that he DID! Quote, please. Nobody has been able to provide any quote YET. n/t

[ChairmanAgnostic]

35. there you go again. Asking for facts and truth.

Don't you know that Team HILLARY! is allergic to facts and truth, and asking them to meet that standard is no different than a personal attack on their queen?


for shame! Facts have no place in her campaign! Why would she or her supporters change now?

[jenmito]

39. I can't help it. However, I'm not surprised that I got no response so far. I've asked quite

a few questions of Hillary supporters and always get the sound of crickets.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

44. at certain times, the sound of crickets

when sitting with your honey, in front of a dying fire, with beautiful red and black embers, a totally black sky dotted with thousands of stars, can be wonderful, peaceful and profound.

When a serious factual question to the Hillaryans is greeted with the same sound, their pathetic attacks and positions become all the more obvious.

[jenmito]

48. Very nice picture you painted there...

unfortunately, it's the second instance I'm now being greeted with.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

52. whereas I am blessed with great honey. which

makes it easier to think of good in most folks. But then I see the crap from Hillaryan Aryans, and I just shrug the shoulders.

[ErinBerin84]

25. if you think that's true, then Maria should have called him out on it.

[ClassWarrior]

28. Actually, I think Dee Dee supports Obama. She was very careful to be...

...impartial throughout her TV book tour. And no, I haven't read it yet.

NGU.

[ErinBerin84]

38. she used to be introduced as a Hillary supporter I think

In fact, I think she was introduced on Dan Abrams a couple of weeks ago as a Hillary supporter as well. Yet, she always presents the argument in a really reasonable way that keeps me listening. And even though her book is called "Why women Should Rule the World", she was very careful to specify that she doesn't mean that "women should rule the world and men shouldn't", but that the political process would benefit from more female politicians at higher level positions.

[Blue_Roses]

47. DeeDee made it very clear to Chris Matthews that she supported

no one through this race-or her words were, "she was neutral." Chris introduced her as former Clinton employee and supporter and she stopped Chris dead in his sentence and said, "she has made it clear she is neutral in this race."

[ErinBerin84]

50. maybe I'm mistaken then

Maybe I'm just projecting my assumptions based on what she says, I could have sworn that I had seen her speaking as a Hillary supporter in the past. Oh well, in any case...she always makes a really good case for Hillary Clinton, the campaign should have hired her!

[jenmito]

29. Yes. That was beautiful. She (and others) have made that claim and not ONE of them have been

able to name names-changing it to saying people in the media have said the math doesn't add up for her. That's NOT the same. Not to mention, when Tim Russert said the same thing about BILL Clinton-that he has an insurmountable lead, they considered him a "mathemetical genius." :D

[Cha]

33. But, there goes the latest Whining talking point.

Where would the hilarys be without Whine talking point # 1968?

snip>

"Yet the assassination reference wasn't Clinton's only mistake. In the same breath, she maintained that her husband had not wrapped up the nomination until June. In truth, he did so in March with the Illinois primary. While California made his victory a mathematical fact, the outcome had not been in doubt for months."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080524/ap_on_el_pr/clinton... ;_ylt=AkZR3NoSD3_U45IdK85Mksis0NUE

[Hamlette]

42. Which show? Is he filling in for Mathews or on Race for the WH? n/t

[Tarheel_Dem]

43. If you get them off their talking points, they are useless. Oh, woe is me...

the poor damsel in distress, being beaten by a scary black man, and the media won't collectively tell the world I've won. I agree with Camille Paglia, that Hillary and her surrogates have set the women's movement back a couple of decades.

[ErinBerin84]

45. oh yeah

I forgot to say that he also said "The fact is that there is nothing that the media would like more than for the democratic race and primaries to continue, because it is so good for ratings" or something like that. Yes, he's probably channeling Chris Matthews and trying to get a youtube moment as well.