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miles 2 go (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:36 AM Original message |
Does anyone know the circumstances of Mcsames pow capture? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
1. He wasn't doing something stupid; he was doing something immoral |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:43 AM Original message |
Great. Another "soldiers are baby-killers" opinion. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
21. John McCain was a relatively privileged Naval officer |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. That's war, baby! Kill a commie for mommy! |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Didn't piss me off at all, actually |
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chknltl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Yeah, I got that impression too out of this one. |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. We *did bomb civilian areas and it *was an agressive |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. It's a mistake to apply the moral standards of 2008 to actions carried out in 1965 |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. It's a mistake to apply the moral standards of ______ to actions carried out in ______ |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Right...because nobody in 1965 considered bombing Vietnam morally dubious |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Isn't that called "moral relativism?" |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. Bombing civilian infrastructure, a prima facie war crime. nt |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Fucking pacifists. |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. and it always has, and always will be, IMMORAL /nt |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 07:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. War is sometimes necessary. |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. doesn't change the morality on the ground though... /nt |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Do I look like a fucking pacifist? I'd have bombed every nursery school in Iran in '79 |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. a pacifist is somebody who wont hit back |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. What's your opinion on the current war? |
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chknltl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. mCcain would agree whole heartedly with this position. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. You are unable to distinguish between wars of necessity and wars of choice? |
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chknltl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. Not exactly what you asked for...but related and entertaining. |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. You ever serve? |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 07:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. I'm wih you, DemVet |
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chknltl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. See my response to DemVet post #27. It applies to you as well. |
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chknltl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. WTF???? |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Yeah we all know everything on the net is so true |
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chknltl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Sure it taught me the silliness that my fellow Americans can buy into if they want. |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. No, it does not. |
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chknltl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. No, it does not WHAT? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. Did you? |
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miles 2 go (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. thanks for the link/ n/t |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
8. I think he was just shot down flying a routine mission |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
9. Please don't go this route |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I haven't looked into this at all |
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miles 2 go (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. I doubt that's the case |
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mamalone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 07:46 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Well said! |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
10. He was a partier and so-so pilot. His name is what allowed him to be a pilot. |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. Thanks for the link, although, I don't know anything about it's validity. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
13. He was dropping bombs to protect Amurikkens from godless communists |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
15. DU is better than this. Isn't it? |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
18. Please don't bring John McCain's military service or POW status into the debate. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
20. Beating McSame on the merits will be easy. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
26. We gain NOTHING by attacking someone who is perceived as a war hero.... |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
39. We should not go there |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
41. Yeah.....Torture doesn't work and it is immoral |
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miles 2 go (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
42. I wasn't actually trying to make a campaign issue out of anything |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
45. Oh for fuck's sake. The guy served, and served honorably and with distinction. No one disputes that. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
47. Stay away from this one. This is best one of those things completely left alone. |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
49. Personally, I've no desire to pursue this type of discussion |
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