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RooferDem Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:41 AM
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Logical fallacies.
Hillary Clinton won West Virginia by 40 points and Kentucky by 35 points. Clearly, Barack Obama cannot win working class white voters in the GE.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:42 AM
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1. No democrat has won that demographic since 1964.
We only need a portion of that group to win.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:43 AM
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3. not to mention that those are only 2 states in which he didn't win white working class votes, plenty
of others in which he did.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:42 AM
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2. do your homework then report back again.
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RooferDem Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:49 AM
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4. Here's another one.
Hillary Clinton is a woman. People who support other candidates are misogynists.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:57 AM
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5. LOL!
comedy gold
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:59 AM
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6. I am white. I support Barack Obama because I hate white people.
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RooferDem Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:59 AM
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7. Hillary Clinton lived in the White House for 8 years.
She has Executive Branch experience.
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:00 PM
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8. Hillary only gets 10% of the black vote. Therefore, she cannot win the black vote in the GE
Oh wait, this one might actually be true. That's what race-baiting gets you.
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RooferDem Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:10 PM
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9. Hillary Clinton won democratic primaries in California and New York.
Clearly, they are red states in November if Obama is the nominee.
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RooferDem Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:53 AM
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10. The vote totals in Florida would look the same even if there had been a campaign there.
We are in the internet age.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:00 AM
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12. Oh, don't worry. We'll win Florida in a landslide!
Because we can always trust the integrity of the Florida election system. :)
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:16 AM
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13. No need to campaign any more.
And we should continue to tell people ahead of time that their votes won't count because their states broke the rules. Well..maybe we can just tell them to go to the polls on the wrong day. Look what happened when Senator Obama campaigned.......



http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=17&num=16150

HILL TROUNCING RIVALS IN N.H. & OHIO
By IAN BISHOP
January 31, 2007 -- WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton has blown past her primary rivals in the 2008 kickoff state of New Hampshire, and bests the field of White House hopefuls in the swing state of Ohio, new polls show.


Clinton's poll bounce comes on the heels of her announcement that she's running, and her much-publicized first campaign foray into Iowa this past weekend.

She had enjoyed a high-tech campaign rollout, featuring a video announcement of her candidacy and three nights of Web chats with supporters.

"We had a great first week and we hope it is a sign of things to come," campaign spokesman Phil Singer told The Post yesterday.

Clinton has jumped out to a 15-point lead in New Hampshire over her leading rival, Barack Obama, 40 percent to 25 percent, the new Survey USA poll shows. Former Sen. John Edwards stands at 23 percent.


Hillary Clinton: Is the Democratic Nomination All Hers?
She doesn’t have the nomination prize wrapped up just yet, but the paper and ribbon are handy.


By Richard Sammon, Senior Associate Editor, The Kiplinger Letter
October 22, 2007
http://www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/forecast/archive/Hillary_Clinton_Is_Democratic_Nomination_Hers_071022.html

Hillary Clinton’s lead over her Democratic rivals is starting to look formidable. The N.Y. senator is overshadowing the other presidential hopefuls, pulling way ahead in the polls, in fundraising and in organization.

The media are starting to refer to her as the presumptive nominee, a characterization that must make the other candidates feel frustrated.



CLINTON HAS 33-POINT LEAD
By GEOFF EARLE

October 4, 2007 -- WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton has jumped to an astounding 33-point lead over Barack Obama, topping her main rival among every major slice of the electorate and widening a dominating advantage she has held all summer.

Clinton got support from a full majority for the first time in any national survey about the Democratic presidential field. She is backed by 53 percent in the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll.

Obama follows far behind, with 20 percent, and John Edwards has 13 percent.

"I think it's pretty well done, don't you? All over but the voting," said Rep. Tom Petri (D-Wis.), when asked about the poll
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10042007/news/nationalnews/clinton_has_33_point_lead.htm


May 8th, 2007 at 13:15:24

Poll: Clinton pulls ahead of Obama

http://rawstory.com/comments/31343.html
Agence France-Presse

Hillary Clinton has taken a 15 percentage-point lead over fellow US Senator Barack Obama in the race for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, according to poll results published Tuesday...


October 3, 2007, 1:45 pm

By Dalia Sussman

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton far outpaces her main Democratic rivals to handle a range of issues, and she is considered the strongest leader and the most electable – forces that have helped her widen her lead in the race for the Democratic nomination, according to a new ABC News/Washington Post poll.

Mrs. Clinton has anywhere from a 30-point lead to a 51-point lead over Senator Barack Obama
to handle health care, the economy, the war in Iraq and the campaign against terrorism, the poll found.


Poll: Hillary Ahead In South Carolina
By Eric Kleefeld - August 22, 2007, 10:35AM
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2007/08/poll_hillary_ahead_in_south_carolina.php
New polling from Rasmussen has Hillary Clinton beating Barack Obama in the South Carolina primary, with 38% for Hillary against 30% for Obama, with John Edwards at a distant third with 13%. Hillary and Obama are even among black voters, a demographic in which Obama needs a strong majority in order to win. Among whites, Hillary leads with Edwards in second, and Obama far behind.


Iowa Poll Shows Clinton Ahead By 29 Percent

http://wap.nbc5.com/detail.jsp?key=251931&rc=ln_ne
10/08/2007 -- There's a new poll out in the all important state of Iowa that shows presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton ahead by 29 percent, with John Edwards and Sen. Barack Obama not far behind.


Clinton leaving Obama in the dust in latest state poll

Friday, August 17, 2007

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2007/08/17/MNG7RJV1E1.DTL&type=politics
New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, bolstered by an aggressive campaign organization in California, has amassed a whopping 30-point lead over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama - and enjoys more support among likely voters in the state Democratic primary than all of her Democratic presidential rivals combined, a Field Poll released today shows.


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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 10:59 AM
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11. What the polls say today in regards to the GE match ups is a good
predictor of what the outcome will be 5 months from now. Proof: Take a look at the poll matchups of the Democratic primaries before they started.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:18 AM
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14. Fallacy is right...
what happened in Oregon?
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RooferDem Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:14 PM
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15. My wife questioned Hillary Clinton's integrity at a dinner party last night.
Barack Obama owes her an apology.
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