I don't think Hillary is trying to destroy the Dem party...

[CoffeeCat]

I think she's trying to win---but if she destroys the Democratic
party in the process--she considers that unfortunate consequence a small price to pay
for pursuing her lifelong, personal dream.

[MannyGoldstein]

1. She's Trying To Destroy Obama So She Has A Shot At 2012

The Party is just a accidental bystander.

[WeDidIt]

2. Nope, I think she wants to destroy the party now

She knows there's no way for her to win, so if she can't have it she'll destroy the aprty so nobody can have it.

[stray cat]

3. She wants to win and will try to do so at all costs

[shraby]

5. No matter how you stack it up, she's wrong on all

counts.

[Perry Logan]

4. And I think Obama has destroyed the Democratic Party.

[SoFlaJet]

so who YOU voting for for president in November Perry?

oh I know you won't answer either right? Just like the rest of your ilk

[TornadoTN]

19. Isn't that the truth

None of these Hillary-bots will own up to that question, but they sure as hell can yell and scream to us that we have to vote for her if she was the nominee.

[SoFlaJet]

25. TT

they ain't even democrats half of them-like we're frigging idiots around here-fuck them all

[Mme. Defarge]

40. So does that mean that I have helped destroy the party

because I voted for him. Are you suggesting that anyone who votes for the wrong candidate is guilty of destroying the party? Is voting, and receiving the most votes, the problem in your view?

[lojasmo]

54. By running a clean, effective campaign?

You're a dolt.

[Max_powers94]

6. Not all dreams come true.

[NC_Nurse]

7. Collateral Damage, no biggie.

[Junkdrawer]

8. Just killing the last vestiges of the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party...

DLC Forever!

[cliffordu]

9. Collateral damage, you know, like civilian deaths from cluster bombs..

[Skidmore]

10. She's trying to own the party.

[CoffeeCat]

11. Isn't that a lot like...

...the designer of the Edsel, trying to own the entire auto industry?

[Skidmore]

15. Kinda irrational, isn't it?

TS, how are you doing? How did you make out during those storms over the weekend? We had a funnel cloud on the ground about 8 miles south of us. That was too close for comfort for me. Those poor people in Parkersburg and New Hampton...prayers for them from all of us.

[CoffeeCat]

27. Hey Skidmore...

I can't complain. The worst of the storms seemed to go around
Des Moines. We got some heavy rain, and golf-ball sized hail,
but nothing Parkersburg. The pictures from those little towns
are just mind blowing and heartbreaking.

I'm glad you are going ok. :)

[Skidmore]

32. It was pretty much the same here,

minus the hail. Lots of wind and lightning--really close up and personal lightning. I'm glad you pulled through the storms okay. I was thinking of you and your family while we sat in the basement and listened to the radio.

I wish it would warm up a bit. The flower beds can't decide what season we're in, and we still don't have the vegetable garden tilled. Too muddy.

[Cha]

29. Yes, the dlc is and she's their head honcho.

Seems it's not pretty when the dlc has lost and they won't admit it.

[SoFlaJet]

12. What I'm starting to believe

is this whole thing is one big God smack in the faces to the Clintons. Payback for NOT being there in 2000 and 2004 just so they could have this nice little run at it in '08...best laid plans and all...too bad your attempt at playing God didn't work out and all now go away...

[2rth2pwr]

13. Just because Obama loses and she gets the nomination doesn't mean the party is destroyed.

You people are quite dramatic when it comes to Obama.

[WeDidIt]

14. The only way Obama loses is to change the rules after the fact

If you don't believe that will destroy the Democratic Party, you're an idiot.

[SoFlaJet]

16. and you actually have the nerve

to put truth in your screename...friggin laughable

[JVS]

20. Not truth, 2rth. A totally different thing, and pronounced too-rth

[SoFlaJet]

24. hmmm

because there not much truth in half of these people disguising themselves as Hillary supporters-wait until next week JVS, so many of us are gonna be saying "I friggin' TOLD you I thought that guy/girl was no democrat"

[2rth2pwr]

30. Are you calling me a troll?

[SoFlaJet]

38. I guess we'll find out for sure whether you are or not

in about a week won't we? so who are YOU voting for for president in November? you know, just for conversation's sake...

[2rth2pwr]

42. You are fine with implying it, but don't have the "huevos" to say it out loud? Coward.

[SoFlaJet]

44. SEXIST !!!!!!

how do you know how big my huevos are...or are NOT? So answer me this and I'll answer you; Who will YOU vote for for president in November?

[2rth2pwr]

47. I will vote for whoever our nominee is.

[SoFlaJet]

48. thank you

...wait you mean whoever the DEMOCRATIC nominee is right?

[2rth2pwr]

51. Oh jeezuz. yes.

[2rth2pwr]

52. I knew it. Coward.

[JVS]

49. Not everyone has the three testicles that James Carville attributes to Hillary Clinton

[shomino]

And you are obviously quite delusional when it comes to Hillary -n/t

[dionysus]

23. except she already lost... finis...done... the fridge light is off and the butter's getting hard...

[Perry Logan]

17. Read Sean Wilentz, "Barack Obama and the Unmaking of the Democratic Party"

" Teixeira and Abramowitz estimate that the Democratic candidate will need to cut Kerry's deficit of 23 percent in 2004 to around 10 percent if he or she is "to achieve a solid popular vote victory." By those lights, Obama, if nominated, is almost certainly destined to lose unless he can suddenly reverse the trend that his own dismissive language and his supporters' contemptuous tone has accelerated during the primaries.

In every presidential election they have won, the Democrats have solidified their historic link to white workers, not dismissed them. Obama and the champions of a new party coalition appear to think that everything has suddenly changed, simply because of the force of their own desires. In any event, Obama had shown no ability thus far to attract the one constituency that has always spelled the difference between victory and defeat for the Democratic Party. The party must now decide whether to go along with Obama and renounce its own heritage -- and tempt the political fates."

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fsean-wilentz%2Fbarack-obama-and-the-unma_b_103353.html&ei=zo89SID0MYio8ASp6Ni3BA&usg=AFQjCNGHJ1Uh_waqUbhiP97UXsInPbmvoA&sig2=Hb6UwF3QJ__yi3ruEgWB2A

[SoFlaJet]

18. So Perry

who you voting for for president?

[TornadoTN]

21. Riiiiiiggghhhhhttt - you can't be serious

This is quite possibly the silliest thing I've read on the internet. Obama just doesn't have any union support, right? No support from whites, right?

I guess that's all there is to it, I guess we should all ignore common sense and abandon logic and reason, all is lost and we have to vote for McCain.

You guys are pathetic. All you are doing now is throwing a Hillary tantrum and trying to destroy the party so she can have another shot at her dream in 2012.

[CoffeeCat]

28. I can't see what he's written...

...because I have him on ignore.

He's the only person in my time at DU that I put on ignore.

I had no idea that when you put someone on ignore--you see "ignore" as a response, so
you know that someone you have "ignored" has responded.

Interesting.

Sorry I have to miss his drivel. It was so bad, my neurons screamed in pain, whenever
I read his stuff. So, for health reasons, he's on ignore.

[SoFlaJet]

36. I just saw a video of him TS and excuse my language and all

but he is what we from New Jersey refer to as a fucking JERK off

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

22. I disagree...

According to Lanny Davis, the Clintons believe that their colleagues in the Senate, other superdelegates, and black Americans have betrayed them. Listen to Carville and his outrageous statement against Richardson. They don't give a damn about the Democratic party. They don't even give a damn about the country. This is about their personal ambition and their lust for power. And you're right: if it just so happens that the Democratic party is dragged down with them, they would feel justified. The problem with the Clintons and their Enablers is that they believe that they are entitled to the presidency. They believe that the presidency is rightfully theirs. The strong-arming of the superdelegates, the threatening of the DNC and party leaders demonstrate that they care nothing of the party.

[ccharles000]

26. She loves this party.

[WeDidIt]

34. Then she should prove it on June 4

or else she'll destroy it.

[atufal1c]

39. She gives not a damn about this party.

She thinks the party has betrayed her.

She thinks she is owed.

She thinks that this is her party and she can do what she wants to with it.

No more games.

[ccharles000]

41. I disagree but respect your opinion.

[barb162]

31. One person can't destroy the party

plain and simple.

[VWolf]

33. I don't think she's destroying anything yet.

Let all the states have their say.

But after Obama gets 2026 or whatever the number is, she needs to pack it up.

[backscatter712]

35. Hide your bunnies and your cutlery!

Bring your donkey! I love animals. I'm a great cook!

[atufal1c]

37. She has to know that if she wins the nom, she won't win the general.

Not now. Not after all of this.

Obama has rarely gone after Hillary Clinton in this primary.

He's rarely gone after Bill Clinton.

If she somehow wrests the nomination from Obama, do you think the Republicans won't use her hijinks in this primary against her? Against the party?

Do you think they won't play the race card? The gender card? The adultery card? The "First Philanderer" card? The lesbian card? Any other cards that they can pull out of their asses?

Do you think that they won't make this entire election about the character of the Clinton's?

Do you think, if she steals this nomination, she will get all of the Obama voters?

Will she get ANY Republican votes?

Do you know how many Republicans will get up off of their couches JUST to vote against her?

Do you think that a campaign that was reduced to stealing the Democratic nomination has a chance against the Republicans, who have built their entire party on stealing?

We have to stop pretending that she is doing ANYTHING other than trying to deceive the American people and steal this nomination. Or to guarantee Obama's loss in November so that she can try to steal it again in 2012.

She, Bill, and her campaign, have been depending on our silence as they attempt the most outrageous theft since 2000. That is why they have gotten this far.

Enough.

[GoesTo11]

43. Narcissistic personality disorder

From Wikipedia

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:<1>

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement
6. is interpersonally exploitative
7. lacks empathy
8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

[depakid]

45. Quite a few of those characteristics CLEARLY apply to Obama too

anyone denying that is either deluded (i.e. fails to see the world objectively) or is dishonest.

Neither one of them lack empathy, however, which psychologists will tell you is the key criteria here.

[SoFlaJet]

46. I don't think Hillary is trying to destroy the Dem party...

as far as I know...

[Zavulon]

50. I don't think she CARES about the Dem party.

She cares about herself, period. The only reason she'd bother to wish the rest of us luck is so that she could govern with a majority.

[nichomachus]

53. No -- she and Bill are trying to destroy the DNC, so they can run the party