"Get over it": a RW Buzz phrase from the 2000 recount.

[Tyler Durden]

"Bush won! Get over it!" resounded from every internet page, TV screen, and OP ED page.

Who spoke it? Who INVENTED IT? Republicans stealing the election from Al Gore.

I think Obama Supporters might want to come up with a new catch phrase, other than "He won! Get over it!" since it is of dubious heritage.

Every time I see that, I think BUSH and the "Brooks Brothers Riot." Not a good connection.

[anonymous171]

1. How about "Learn the rules!" ?

[Tyler Durden]

12. Read them. Obviously YOU haven't.

The "Death Penalty" is not in the rules. Dean and the DLC DNC did it on their own.

[TheWraith]

69. Actually, the rules DO require the DNC to fine FL and MI delegates.

The DNC lawyers came out and said that in fact, it would be impossible for them not to fine the states at LEAST 50% of their delegates. 100% is perfectly acceptable under the rules.

But hey, the rules weren't really your concern, so you just keep spinning.

[Lucky 13]

97. Actually I have...

and the rules REQUIRE at least a 50% penalty to MI and FL.... MORE if they deem necessary.

So... any thoughts on that?

[eridani]

123. It was Clinton's team that insisted on the 100% penalty

--back when they were trying to get everything to be over with by Feb 5th. It was part of their front-loading strategy, favoring name recognition and money.

[Hugabear]

135. Hillary's own campaign advisor Ickes helped write those rules!

And he voted to strip Florida and Michigan of ALL their delegates.

Got an explanation for that?

[JoFerret]

119. How about: Make better rules

Heard of Kohlberg?

[spoony]

139. .

:applause:

[AllentownJake]

2. Yeah well

Where's the Beef was a Wendy's catch phrase but I don't hold it against Mondale for stealing it from the old woman in the commercial.

GET OVER IT.

[woolldog]

3. oh boy

:eyes: are you this bitter IRL?

[Tyler Durden]

Only with pushy bad winners.

Likely he'll win. but you guys just can't stop rubbing salt in the wounds YOU OPENED.

I hope you're having a good time with it. It isn't winning that 1 in 16 you need to win in the fall.

[panhead1961]

4. I am starting to hate "It is what it is"

How about - I told you do and the Nee-Ner dance. Might be a tad childish.

[Tyler Durden]

17. ANY of their "rub it in" comments make me want to vomit.

1 in 16. that's all I have to say.

[LSK]

5. except Obama did not steal anything, he earned it

[Tyler Durden]

19. We have a different opinion in Michigan.

And he hasn't "earned" ANYTHING. I this country, we NOMINATE, we do not AWARD.

See you in Denver

[Occam Bandage]

22. "In this country, we NOMINATE, we do not AWARD. " And we do so by the delegate system.

Which Obama is going to clinch this week. Get over it.

[Tyler Durden]

39. AGAIN, the idiot catch phrase.

Buy a thesaurus, or look one up on line. Expanding the vocabulary is FUN. Really.

[Occam Bandage]

45. All right, if it makes you happy:

Cope with it. Tolerate it. Deal with it. Accept it. Get through it. Manage your disappointment. Handle it. Weather the storm.

[Tyler Durden]

48. VERY good.

Now rotate them so you don't get boring. Actually much better.

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[Tyler Durden]

63. Don't know you, but you sure aren't from Lansing....

Or Flint. Or Saginaw. We are HURTING, and a little consideration would be nice.

AND support for the local rePukes is at an all time high. You might think about that, and the fact that the only Democrats in the last 30 years voted for in this state were Clinton, Gore, and Kerry. This state goes red more than blue.

[TahitiNut]

89. You didn't even bother to read the thread at the link, did you?

Figures. :shrug:

[Tyler Durden]

90. Yep. I read ALL your stuff.

Liked it more before it became so strident, though.

[TahitiNut]

101. Then get a clue. There is no legitimate basis for ANY delegate from Michigan.

None. Zip. Nada. NOT for Clinton. NOT for Obama. Not for Edwards. None.

That barn burned down in January. All the window dressing, Kabuki, melodrama, and other bullshit hasn't changed a fucking thing.

The Michigan 'primary' was a FUBAR. It is a FUBAR. It will forever be a FUBAR.

The 'colonialism' pretense of having ANY 'delegation' from Michigan is illegitimate. It matters not whehter it's 50/50, 100/0, 0/100, or ANYTHING else. It's bullshit to claim a 'delegation' from People who never had a legitimate opportunity to 'delegate' ANYONE!

That's the situation created by a cast of characters that DIDN'T include the People of the state of Michigan themselves.

There is absolutely NO undoing that.

The question is now SOLELY whether the blithering ASSHOLES in the Democratic Party, states and national, have the remaining integrity and courage to come to this state and EARN support for November. (I somehow doubt it.)

It has very little to do with Clinton or Obama ... some, but very little. It has to do with the people of this state. It seems OBVIOUS that the "Democrats" think they can piss in the faces of the people of this state and then tell them to "vote or else." Well, that's a guaranteed path to "Lose-Lose."

[Tyler Durden]

128. We actually agree in a lot of ways.

just disagree on the implementation.

I can live with that.

But the "get a clue" cliche is unnecessary; provocative.

[Alcibiades]

121. That's confusing

I had thought that only those states that are vote consistently for the Democratic nominee are the ones we need to win in the general election. After all, isn't that why North Carolina doesn't matter?

[Tyler Durden]

64. And you're rude. Shame on you.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

120. I'm from Michigan as well, Tyler Durden.

And we all knew what we were doing. We knew the threats, and we rolled the dice. Our point was to make a point. We didn't think we'd actually count, that it would be this close. Our point was YOUR point: that we're tired of being shat upon, that Michigan matters a hell of a lot more (even symbolically) than New Hampshire (sorry, my friends from New Hampshire) and certainly more than South Carolina (o.k., now I'm just being mean :evilgrin:). Our point is that Michigan is a microcosm of what's wrong with this country in manifold ways. We WERE a manufacturing monster: Ford, GM--see every Michael Moore documentary out there. What's wrong with Michigan is what's wrong with the values of the politicians. We're both rural and urban (Detroit has one of the highest--if not the highest--democratic turn-out rates out there). So we decided to push back this year; we decided to cut off our noses to spite our face. And we did. We can't ask for plastic surgery now.

I think you're a good, solid, loyal Clinton supporter, and you should be applauded for this. But I just ain't buying what you're selling--not from a logical, logistical, and tactical (meaning that we were ready not to have our votes counted) standpoint.

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[LSK]

113. Your states party violated DEMOCRATIC PARTY RULES

And therefore candidate Obama was not allowed to campaign in Michigan because he is the candidate of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

So why the hell are you MAD at Obama??? Are you mad at Edwards also???

How did Obama STEAL the election??? HOW?

[marmar]

137. I guess it depends on who the "we" is in Michigan, n'est-ce pas?

:shrug:

[AspenRose]

6. Quit it

.

[Tyler Durden]

21. NO. I want the BLAME to STOP.

when you people stop, so will I, and I STUDIED debate and logic, and won contests at it.

wanna roll those dice?

[AspenRose]

112. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6144806

We're tired. Quit it. Your anger is misguided and destructive.

BTW, Obama was my 3rd choice. I'm going to support the nominee. So I don't understand where the "you people" broadbrush is coming from, except out of bitterness.

[Renew Deal]

7. How about: Would you like some cheese with all that whine?

:9

[Tyler Durden]

23. How about: "I'm a CHILD, and NEENER NEENER NEENER."

I'm at the point where I don't CARE too much who wins. I just want you Obama Supporters to SHUT UP about it.

You're giving me a headache.

[panhead1961]

8. Theodore Roosevelt

Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.

[rucky]

9. Who invented "Waaaaamublance?"

[Tyler Durden]

25. Some asshole.

[Arrowhead2k1]

10. "We're propping up the worst administration in US history. Get over it!"

:eyes:

[panhead1961]

11. One should always play fairly when one has the winning cards.

Oscar Wilde

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. You might want to pick a better analogy besides Brooks Brothers Riot.

Especially since known Hillary people tried to pass themselves off as supporters of other candidates at a protest in FL.

[Tyler Durden]

28. If you choose slogans....

Better not choose anti semetic ones at a Bnai Brith meeting.

It's an ANALOGY, so be smart and don't lose your mind.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

32. Wow, you managed to be both offensive and obtuse in one post. Good going. nt

[Tyler Durden]

36. I warned you.

But kids will be kids.

and you're misusing OBTUSE. Mine was a VERY pointed comment.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

42. Too bad it was pointed in the wrong direction. nt

[Tyler Durden]

46. Beg Pardon?

Quit while you're behind.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

52. You should quit allowing yourself to be embarrassed on behalf of your losing candidate. nt

[Tyler Durden]

58. And you should learn some manners.

And some respect might be nice.

Being a gracious winner is also polite and respectful. Kicking someone while they are down..? Not exactly "Hoyle," is it?

[VolcanoJen]

14. "Sore Loserman" was an even bigger catchphrase.

Don't make me whip that one out.

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[VolcanoJen]

34. Actually, I'm not going to kiss your ass.

Vote for whomever you like. I could really give a damn.

Every Hillary supporter I know, in real-life in my local activism, is voting proudly for Obama in November. Every single one of them.

[Tyler Durden]

37. You don't live in Michigan, do you?

Didn't think so.

I have no idea how old you are, but us over 40's in Michigan are REALLY PISSED OFF and NOT at Hillary Clinton.

[VolcanoJen]

67. Good gawd. Of COURSE I don't live in Michigan!!

GO BUCKEYES!!! }(

Ohio's a swing-state too, you know. And as far as my demographic, it's certainly none of your business, but let it be said that a lot of Hillaryland folks are surprised when Obama supporters don't fit neatly into your stereotypes and preconceptions. :patriot:

[Tyler Durden]

74. And Michigan has gone Republican more than Democratic.

In 30 years, only Clinton, Gore, and Kerry. This is much more of a swing state this time.

But it doesn't really matter. If this keeps up, he'll lose more than the 1 in 16 Clinton supporters that's his margin of victory.

Tick tock.

[VolcanoJen]

83. You're going to be pretty disappointed if he wins the presidency, huh?

I mean, seriously, what do you want me to do, buy you a drink or something? Give you some walking-around money?

If you don't want to vote for him, don't. Go ahead and help elect McCain and then you can point and laugh at everyone and feel really smart. Wasn't McCain the one who told Michigan folk, "You're jobs aren't ever coming back"?

[Tyler Durden]

88. None of the above.

Just quit acting like, you should excuse the word, ASSHOLES about winning.

Most people don't like a sore loser, but EVERYONE HATES a sore winner.

[VolcanoJen]

108. Oh please.

I've been more than patient and kind about this. I have many Hillary supporters here who are my friends, and I really don't think there are very many here who would call me one of the "noxious" Obama supporters.

But after the way she's behaved the last few weeks, with this bogus popular vote comment, with the RFK comment, with Bill now saying the whole thing is a cover-up.... I'm just done. This thing wraps up on Tuesday. No more contests. And it's not my responsibility to kiss anyone's ass for their vote. I'll work like hell, as I always do, to get the word out there about Obama. But what you decide to do is personal and none of my business.

[JVS]

15. OK. How about we just use the D-generation-X slogan from WWE?

[AllentownJake]

26. I'm all for it

however I'm sure the Alert buttons would go crazy.

[JVS]

27. I know what I'm posting at the beginning of gloat and gnash week!

[Tyler Durden]

41. Boy you guys just aren't getting the message, are you?

One Clinton board I know started ONE MONTH ago has topped 75,000 posts. Took about 2 months to happen here, and that was in January 2000.

There's a lot of pissed off Clinton Supporters out there who didn't like being tarred with your "It's fun to paint broad strokes" brush.

1 in 16 chum.

[Tyler Durden]

30. How about we ALL GROW UP?

I would sure love that.

[sniffa]

38. HA!

:rofl:

[Tyler Durden]

44. More one-hit wisdom from the 20 something wonder.

I wish I could see you at 55. Remember me and what I said.

[AllentownJake]

53. My mother is 63

and she says worse things about Clinton than I could even imagine.

Age has nothing to do with anything.

[Tyler Durden]

55. But I'll bet she wouldn't bore me to tears...

With the same tired cliches, like so many of you do.

[AllentownJake]

56. No

She would be tombstoned rather quickly.

[Tyler Durden]

79. Shame. We could use INTELLIGENT rowdy opposition.

Right now it's just rude people.

[JVS]

62. Tell her what Triple H and Shawn Michaels have to say about the nomination

"Obama is going to be the Democratic nominee, and if you're not down with that, then we got two words for ya."

[AllentownJake]

I liked

when it was the Road Dawg and Jesse James better

[Tyler Durden]

66. You are quoting WWF WRESTLERS?

this is too weird to believe.

[JVS]

72. First of all, it's WWE because the world wildlife foundation won a lawsuit or something.

Secondly, what's the matter with wrasslin? Not elitist enough? ;-)

[Tyler Durden]

76. Naw.

Just come from the era of Dick the Bruiser and Rowdy Roddy Piper.

When did that change?

[JVS]

82. I don't remember when the name change was exactly, but here is the moment that wrestling changed...

forever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLZTDHwuwCA

On edit: wait no, that wasn't the first one. This is when it all changed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXTagE7BtRU&feature=related

[sniffa]

95. Eh, I'm flattered

I'm gonna start going with that age.

Now, don't let me hold you back - I believe you were in melt-down mode. :popcorn:

[Tyler Durden]

129. Pointless to respond.

Provocative with no good reason.

[Bake]

59. Don't hold your breath, TD ...

Ain't gonna happen. Over in the Mt. Rushmore thread, they're joyously making fun of Sen. Clinton's APPEARANCE. We're just supposed to ... uh ... "get over it."

Like you, I'd think they'd avoid the obvious freeperism ... but nooooooooo! They don't need us; didn't you get the memo?

Bake

[Tyler Durden]

68. If they don't need us, then they won't WIN.

1 of 16, friend.

[Bake]

91. It seems that every time I've made up my mind to hold my nose and vote for Obama

(assuming he actually winds up the nominee), I come in here and get pissed off at his arrogant, idiot supporters, or told that my vote's not needed. Sigh.

Bake

[Forkboy]

104. You first.

[Tyler Durden]

130. Boring, one hit provocation.

NEXT?

[Forkboy]

138. And yet right on the mark.

NEXT?

[Jersey Devil]

16. Oh my, it's only Wednesday - what will you be like by Tuesday night?

[Tyler Durden]

31. I don't even turn this on over the weekend.

except to send messages to friends, of which I have fewer and fewer here.

[americanstranger]

18. Yeah, just like 'Kitchen Sink' was invented by a RW commentator.

You mentioned that yesterday, but most news reports attribute it to a clinton staffer.

Maybe you ought to push away from the computer and go for a walk. This obsessing and raging can't be good for your health.

- as

[Occam Bandage]

20. It's a pretty common phrase to hear when someone is still screaming and crying

half an hour after the final buzzer. Republicans misused the phrase after stealing the election; Obama supporters are deploying it while Clintonites are whining about not being allowed to steal the election.

[Tyler Durden]

33. You want to IMPRESS an "Old Coot?"

Be BIG about winning. Goes a long way toward healing.

[Occam Bandage]

49. If I wanted to impress someone, I'd show off my juggling skills.

[Tyler Durden]

78. Try juggling the election if you lose more than 1 in 16 Clinton Supporters.

That's the magic number.

[Occam Bandage]

87. While I can understand the confusion, I am not actually

Secretary of Cajoling. If you feel like Bush's policies would be better than Obama's, then vote your heart.

[frylock]

99. the time for that passed weeks ago

[apocalypsehow]

24. Bullshit - that phrase has been in use since about forever regarding any number of topics. BTW:

HE WON, SHE LOST, GET OVER IT.

[Tyler Durden]

35. Been here since FEBRUARY and you know the history of this board?

I think not.

Adults win more arguments. People take them seriously.

[apocalypsehow]

70. This isn't anything about the "history of this board," pal. It's about your phony crap

regarding "get over it" being exclusively a right-wing phrase. You need to grow up and quit whining - she lost, get over it.

[apocalypsehow]

75. And BTW, chest-thumping about how long you've been here is the height of childishness. Grow up. n/t

[casus belli]

40. How about: RTFM? Better? n/t

[Tyler Durden]

51. Don't know it, but it beats "Get over it."

Thanks.

[WeDidIt]

43. Freaky Deaky n/t

[CaptJasHook]

47. FAIL "get over it" was first used by my mom in 1968 after she took my binky away.

[Tyler Durden]

54. Don't know your mom.

And "FAIL" has FAILED. Cliches are SO cliche.

[CaptJasHook]

77. Cliches like "Candidate X is a closet Republican"

[Tyler Durden]

80. HEY an Obam Cliche!

You win a cookie.

[CaptJasHook]

84. Molasses?

BTW "You win a cookie" is cliche.

Oh, and BTW, I am being an a-hole right now. So I will go no further.

[Tyler Durden]

116. I make great molasses cookies.

You want it with or without sugar on top?

Congratulations, you have out-matured most of the posters on this thread. Maybe there's hope.

[VolcanoJen]

86. ROFL

:rofl:

[AtomicKitten]

50. The Brooks Bros reference is to the Clinton campaign storming the Rules & Bylaws Committee

Nice swerve, but no sale.



Proof is in the pudding. Now who is acting all Brooks Brothery: In this thread HRC supporter talks about TAKING the nomination: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6160296&mesg_id=6160296

[Lilith Velkor]

85. Yeah, those Republicans sure wanted all the votes counted in Florida

[AtomicKitten]

94. Yep, just like Hillary wants all the delegates in a giant pile delivered to her front door.

[polmaven]

106. I DO NOT agree!

Cats fail at NOTHING! 'Specially ones cute as that!

It was their intent to fall to get ATTENTION! They probably had not had any for 3 or 4 minutes!

[Bluebear]

60. I *loathe* that phrase.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

61. This time the good guys won.

So get over it.

[Bright Eyes]

65. Are you suggesting that Obama stole the election?

If you are, please say it on the record.

[Tyler Durden]

81. Nope.

Just tired of having my face rubbed in it.

Especially with Republican Cliches. Learn some NEW way to pee on Clinton Supporters, will you?

Oh yeah, it's PRIMARY until November. THEN it's an ELECTION.

[Warren DeMontague]

71. And every time I read the list of Senators who voted for the IWR, I think of Bush, too.

:shrug:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

73. Tyler McDurden.

:hi:

[panhead1961]

92. People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.

Haven't we suffered enough?

[Cha]

93. Your thoughts are moot. n/t

[sniffa]

96. Too bad they're not mute

[2rth2pwr]

98. They are acting like right wing tools. k&r.

[smiley_glad_hands]

110. You are a rightwing tool. lol

[M_Demo_M]

102. NO!

That's all that needs to be said.

[ClassWarrior]

105. The only one I see around here saying "get over it" is OPERATIONMINDCRIME...

...and s/he's a Hilly fan, as far as I can tell.

NGU.

[Tyler Durden]

117. Then you've missed 90% of them.

Look harder.

[NeedleCast]

107. This Reminds me of Corporate Meetings

Sitting in a room with a dozen idiot federal employees listening to them argue about whether we should use the phrase "value added" or "added value."

Get over it has been around a lot longer than the 2000 recount. I don't think I've used that particular phrase, but it's just as valid as any other phrase which has the essential meaning of "Obama won."

(P.S. Didn't you say you were leaving (again) yesterday? Why are you back here flicking gasoline on the fire over a petty non-issue?)

[smiley_glad_hands]

109. "Get over it" was not invented by republicans.

Now get over it already.

[Perry Logan]

111. Hell--the Bammers act more like Republicans than Republicans.

[Alcibiades]

122. Is that a slur against Alabamans?

[ladjf]

114. They need a new "cute quip". That is totally worn out. Doesn't

even make me mad any more.

[ladjf]

115. They need a new "cute quip". That is totally worn out. Doesn't

even make me mad any more.

[lojasmo]

118. A hilllary supporter posted just those words today. EOM

"He won, get over it" was the exact quote.

[stevietheman]

124. Enough. n/t

n/t

[chascarrillo]

125. Get over it.

[theboss]

126. I was saying "Get Over It" in the early 80s to people dealing with the loss of MASH

It's not exactly a new phrase.

[scarletwoman]

127. Good point! Thanks for posting this. I also think that "Get over it!" is just plain rude no matter

what the context. Resorting to rudeness in an argument is very poor form, and counterproductive to boot. It immediately shifts the gears into emotionality and away from rationality.

There is no long term strategic advantage in such behavior. It satisfies the ego and the lizard brain in the moment -- but then what?

Sorry for rambling, it's just that your post got me thinking.

Peace,
sw

on edit: I want to clarify that I have no objection to the use of the phrase in a humorous, non-taunting manner.

[Tyler Durden]

131. Thinking is very good.

A lot of folks here have decided that it's optional.

DU: land of the one-line wonders.

[Doityourself]

132. Hillary is going to lose, Get Over It! Great phrase...true too!

[Tyler Durden]

133. ANOTHER one line hit job.

Boring, provocative, and silly.

The Obama Campaign has pissed off a ton of Clinton Supporters to his own detriment, and nobody in that camp is building bridges.

Try getting over THAT in November.

[Doityourself]

134. Oh another threat..I'm not going to vote for Obama because you are pissed off at words on msg board

talk about redundant and boring too, and more than anything, SHORT SIGHTED!

Hello, news flash Einstein, if the Dem nominee loses in November, then all true Dems lose, or don't you realize that.

You try getting over 4 more years of Republican rule..I'll survive, I've done very well financially under Bush, so I won't starve or get hurt in the pocket, but I'm not selfish enough to only think of myself, that's why I vote Democratic instead of thinking solely of my bottom line.

What's your bottom line, Sherlock?

[Hugabear]

136. BULLSHIT. That phrase was around well before the 2000 election

I am not going to let you dictate what we can and cannot say, and I am not going to idly sit by while you accuse us of using "RW buzz phrases". The term "Get over it" did not originate with the 2000 election.

"Get over it" seems quite adequate, because people like you and your candidate simply refuse to acknowledge reality.

[cboy4]

140. Yup.....it's the buzz phase of Republics.

There's absolutely no question about it.

[goletian]

141. lol, get over it is old. get over it. hillary is the one takin arguments from karl rove himself.

this thread is a failure.

[VotesForWomen]

142. agreed; but in this case it ain't even over (despite what they think) so there's nothing to get ove

over.