The swiftboating of Obama's uncle is the lowest of the low.

[Drunken Irishman]

And I'm ashamed there are members on this board pushing this bullshit attack.

The facts: Concerning the service of Mr. Charles Payne: C.T. Payne was a soldier in the 89th Infantry Division. He served in the 355th Infantry Regiment, Company K. The 355th Infantry Regiment was the unit to liberate Ohrdruf. Mr. Payne was there.

http://www.89infdivww2.org/

And, without calling the poster out, this from their own list, contradicting their entire point:



A despicable attack that has no business being pushed by ANY Democrat, especially toward a man who served his country in such an honorable fashion.

[Spazito]

1. Every time I think they have hit the lowest of the low, they go even lower

It is despicable.

Recommended.

[Name removed]

15. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[BlooInBloo]

33. Lesson learned. :)

[Spazito]

52. Yep, I learned there is no bottom line for them beyond which they will not go

I KNEW that about the repubs but to see so-called Democrats swimming in the same cesspool is an eye-opener.

[Cheap_Trick]

54. they haven't settled for scraping the bottom of the barrell

they took an excavator and tunneled beneath it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. I think it's past time for the mods to step up to the plate...

and nip this in the bud.

[K Gardner]

4. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been BEGGING them to do something.

[Jane Austin]

6. If you'll point me to the offending threads

I will alert (if justified) too.

Thanks.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6160540&mesg_id=6160540

[FSogol]

14. and here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=109&topic_id=33261&mesg_id=33261

[Jane Austin]

57. Thanks..............eom

[TahitiNut]

55. You're not. (It's just one of the reasons I don't use "Ignore.")

Anyone with an 'Ignore' list essentially abdicates keeping the campsite clean.

[JackBeck]

26. Agreed.

:thumbsup:

Plagiarizing right wing smear sites and the repetition of Republican talking points have gotten out of control.

[Forkboy]

48. Very much agree. This shit needs to be dealt with, quickly and firmly.

[BlooInBloo]

51. In the bud? It's in full bloom and the spores are spreading... We need weed repellent....

I'll collect my Best Continuation Of An Analogy award at the front, thanks!

[FSogol]

3. Completely agree. Its always the same 7-8 fanatics.

I'll be glad when they get the pizza delivery.

[Bicoastal]

5. They were telling me that since Ohrdruf wasn't TECHNICALLY Buchenwald, but part of the network...

administered by Buchenwald, Obama was a filthy, greasy, TERRIBLE liar!

Orhdruf was a tentacle of the kraken named Buchenwald. Prisoners were shipped back and forth between the two places, and death and destruction happened everywhere--as General Eisenhower himself said. I'm all for splitting hairs when it's appropriate, but Nazi hair I refuse to split.

[Kutjara]

12. Face it, if Pfc Payne had liberated...

...Birkenau, the bigots would be calling Obama a liar because he said "Auschwitz." They're not interested in substantive truth, just anything they can get some purchase on with their claws to try to pull apart. If Obama drank a Diet Coke and then told the press it was a Coke, the shitstirrers would start screaming "liar" all over again.

[CTyankee]

7. What did I miss here? This wasn't just over the mix up of concentration camp names, was it?

I mean, I thought that was just a minor thing, not a swiftboating.

What else happened?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. That's it.

Somebody found records for a different Charles Payne having enlisted in the Navy, so they're attacking Obama's uncle's military service.

Exactly like they attacked Kerry over his heroic service.

Like I said elsewhere, this is one step away from being holocaust denial.

Oh, and a couple of people have been saying that Buchenwald wasn't that bad of a concentration camp after all.

[Kutjara]

9. I'm actually surprised there's any record of his service.

The Veterans Administration National Personnel Records fire in 1973 destroyed 80% of Army service records covering the period 1912 to 1960. I'm glad there's some documentary proof of Pfc Payne's service, or else the bigots would be screaming from the rafters that the whole thing was a lie. Just like the service of the 80% whose records were lost was a lie.

[scheming daemons]

11. The OP of the other thread needs to be tombstoned.... NOW.

He's a freeper troll.


And his name is a misnomer.... there's nothing "truth"-ful about him.

[Forkboy]

13. Oh, you mean 2trhiness2pwr.

He's fucking scum who needs the boot asap.

[AllentownJake]

17. Seconded

I want to have a party like Jackson_Dem again.

[apocalypsehow]

23. Thirded. And the smarmy guttersnipe just doubles-down when his lies are pointed out. n/t.

[K Gardner]

24. Fourthed and fifthed.

[SoonerPride]

28. 6thed. I thought that poster was TS'd.

I''ve had them on ignore so long, i never knew they were still here.

[Forkboy]

30. Considering his last post links to material straight from FreeRepublic the fuck should be TSed.

I defend the mods and admins all the time. But they need to remove this piece of shit from DU.

[JackBeck]

50. And the one before that

to both Michelle Malkin and Ace of Spades

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6147846#6148105

[TahitiNut]

35. Seventhed.

... or whatever. :shrug:

[jsmirman]

64. This just has to happen

it has become hard to feel that this "poster" is anything other than a concerted attempt to shit stir.

[SoxFan]

42. Tell him to take his mini-me Papau with him

[Forkboy]

46. Yeah, another cowardly piece of shit.

[thewiseguy]

76. The mods are dropping the ball IMO. This is DU for pete's sake not FR.

[Forkboy]

77. I've defended the mods and admins here a lot, but on this one I agree.

This poster is a disgrace, plain and simple.

[high density]

16. I must have them all on ignore

Because I have not seen much at all of this "controversy," except for rebuttal threads like this one.

[stillcool]

21. I have both of the authors of those threads..

on Ignore. I never used the Ignore function before this primary season, but I don't think I would even bother venturing into GDP if I had to read all the bullshit some of these "Democrats" post.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

27. take them off ignore and hit alert.

Holocaust denial's got no business at DU.

[Skidmore]

18. There are about 8 or 10 of these so-called Hillary supoorters on this

board who I will not even address and I do not consider to be anything but Republican/Freeper disruptors. They tend to have joined DU during 2007 and do nothing but engage in vile attacks and flamebaiting.

[K Gardner]

19. And are given absolute free rein to do so.

[Skidmore]

49. Mystifying, isn't it since it is so obvious.

[FSogol]

20. I'm guessing they'll get the boot when the nomination is official, but

in the mean time, I'm hitting alert so much, I think the mods will start called me: FSogol the boy who cried "Alert."

[ForeignSpectator]

22. So what the Fxxx is all this about? He was in a different division?

He helped liberate a different concentration camp than Obama said? What?

Don't have the nerve to threads of those "you know who" "DUers" so what's the deal this time?

[apocalypsehow]

25. This is why I only have *ONE* HRC booster on ignore (and she was a stalker with issues):

their lies simply cannot be allowed to float around this forum unchallenged.

Now, you Obama supporters with large *ignore* lists, I'm not criticizing you at all: I well understand not wanting to wade through the filthy lies and slanders the HRC boosters peddle here on a daily basis. It often makes me want to vomit, too. But I just feel I'm more comfortable challenging it than ignoring it, though it gets tough at times.

[frickaline]

29. I agree, I mean check out the guy's source link

riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm so whatcha doing there? :puke:

[Forkboy]

31. Shit right from FreeRepublic.

The worm needs to be shitcanned.

[2rth2pwr]

34. I read everything, including your posts.

[frickaline]

38. I'm so honored, next time read your own thread before you post it!

If you had, you might have noticed the proper middle initial.

[2rth2pwr]

53. My question was -what is his middle name or initial?

How would you have guessed it was C.T. and not Charles W ?

[frickaline]

65. Quite honestly I wouldn't have cared. The Holocaust Museum verification

was good enough for me. They would be better able to verify this than some random genealogy web sites. If you are concerned, call the guy up. He lives in Chicago according to CNN.

http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/27/obama-campaign-acknowledges-concentration-camp-name-mistake/

[Forkboy]

39. Yeah, we can tell which sites you love.

[Tippy]

32. This is going to backfire on those posing about this stuff......

Obama misspoke....but almost immediately said he had done so...Not really a big deal to anyone but the Clinton camp...but look and the coverage of this in the media....he has loads of it....Now remember what transpired with the Clintons after the Bobby Kennedy issue....Everyone of their talking heads on the Sunday morning shows screaming their heads off .....There is really no way the two can be compared...at least by sane people..when the truth came out people really began to look at who this man was, he is now considered a hero to many...Obama has benefited a lot from this story, I am not saying it was a deliberate act by any stretch but a lot of people are reading the story of this a real W.W.2 Hero.....

[Cha]

36. I would think they ones crying "Uncle" are

actually dino agitators.

[Perry Logan]

37. 10,000,000,000,000 more lies about Obama will equal the number of lies about Hillary.

Speaking of despicable.

[scheming daemons]

40. So you admit that 2th2pwr lied about Obama... thanks, I guess...

[Forkboy]

41. You would defend this.

[apocalypsehow]

43. Don't you have some racists to go keep your mouth shut around?

:shrug:

[NorthernSpy]

68. zing! -- you nailed it...

:thumbsup:

[TahitiNut]

69. It helps to keep the sparks and smoke out of one's mouth ...

... when burning crosses. :shrug:

[Bucky]

44. Don't ever call a Republican smear "the lowest of the low." You *know* how competitive they are.

Impeaching a president for having a quickie was bad. Couldn't get any sillier.

Saying Democrats who wanted Homeland Security employees to have full workers' rights "don't care about protecting America" was slimy. Couldn't get any worse.

Accusing a medalled war hero of faking his injuries and being a coward was disgusting. Couldn't sink any lower.

Equating another war hero with massive disabilities with Osama bin Laden because he supported the Bill of Rights was putrid. How is getting lower than that even possible?

Trust me, it's possible. Republicans always sink to the challenge.

[NC_Nurse]

45. I was just thinking that. Let's not challenge the Clinton camp or the Repubs

to find the bottom of the barrel - they'll be only too happy to.

[Life Long Dem]

47. I'm opposed to our opposing team more "right now" than i am about Hillary.

Who are these people who continue to push this garbage? They are not Democrats.

[Freida5]

56. May be the case but BO still exaggerated.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

58. Exaggerated how?

[Bicoastal]

59. You think that saying one concentration camp instead of another is an exaggeration?

NO--it was a mistake. Buchenwald was no less horrific than Auschwitz. How do you even quantify these things?

And before you start, Ohrdruf WAS part of Buchenwald, if much less well-known by that name.

[Vinca]

60. It wasn't an exaggeration, it was a mistake in the name of the death camp.

I doubt one death camp was better than the next, but I suppose you will dispute that for whatever reason. Exaggeration is landing in Bosnia and being met by a little girl with a poem and flowers and then, when relating the incident at a later date, saying that you were under sniper fire.

[onenote]

61. because this place wouldn't give someone nightmares?

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/photographs/displayimage.php?pointer=3907

Shame. Shame on you.

[Forkboy]

62. Do tell.

[DevonRex]

63. Got a profile? Hmmmm????? nt

[jsmirman]

66. Someone doesn't quite know what the word "exaggerate" means

his mistake fails in every way to meet the standards of that word.

[NorthernSpy]

67. if YOU had been locked up in that "mere" satellite camp of Buchenwald

... I wonder whether you'd be shrieking about "exaggerations".


:eyes:

[galledgoblin]

71. Morbo says:

EXAGGERATION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

[Forkboy]

73. Another coward hit and run. You and papau married by any chance?

Fucking pathetic losers.

[sniffa]

70. But, will that ignored show up on this thread?

:shrug:

[galledgoblin]

72. it's disgusting, it's disrespectful to veterans

and it misses the entire frigging point of the speech!

[JackBeck]

74. Republicans own that end of the market.

They did it with Gore (he was just a journalist over in Vietnam).

Then with Kerry (aren't our purple band-aids adorable?)

And now they are scrambling any which way they can to distract from Obama's message.

You'd think some Democrats would have learned something over the last 8 years.

[Douglas Carpenter]

75. agree and recommend

[Forkboy]

78. Kick

:kick: