Wikileaks: McCain plants operating at hillaryis44 and other sites to supress Dem vote if it's Obama

[DS1]

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_McCain_US_Presidential_election_Clinton_astroturfing_strategy_(2008)


The document, dated May 15, 2008, and disowned by the McCain campaign team, presents a memorandum by 'S. Schmidt', likely Steven Schmidt, McCain's senior campaign advisor. It outlines a strategy designed increase rivalry between followers of the Democratic Party candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Several specific techniques are described including organizing Clinton "meet-ups" (http://hrclinton.meetup.com/).

The memo appears to have been sent to a wider McCain campaign team group which focussed on internet based campaigning.

According to the memo, conflict between Clinton and Obama has created the possibility, on the event of an Obama nomination, to 'depress the turnout of key Democratic demographics in November'.

To reach voters consisting mainly of 'white, female voters over the age of 40', a strategy has been worked out, based on newly tested 'lines of attack through independent pro-Clinton communities on the Internet', 'local "meet-ups"', and similar means.

The document identifies three messages believed to 'resonate well' with the demographic and which it hopes will weaken Obama's growth following Clinton's loss of the nomination.

1. Sen. Obama’s connection to Rev. Wright
2. His inexperience
3. His links to the corrupt Chicago political machine

The memo calls for a 'greater commitment on the part of McCain’s fundraisers and our various media partners' to help in the alienation effort.

An example, pushing 'Clinton campaign’s narrative about the unfair treatment that some networks, specifically MSNBC, have given her camp' is given.

[Bicoastal]

1. Come out, come out, where ever you are!!

[Perry Logan]

2. Come November, the Republicans will be welcoming millions of ex-Democrats with open arms.

So THAT'S what Obamer meant by unity!

[Name removed]

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[Yael]

11. Good point

I'll take it!

[anonymous171]

12. We're trading our low information voters for smart repugs

[The Doctor.]

62. I"m in...

and I'm bringin' me ma with me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5486047

[PoliticalAmazon]

16. Don't forget Bob Barr. I think he is going to have a big role...

in the GE because he will give millions of Republicans who cannot vote for McCain an alternative.

Barr is basically a Goldwater Republican. It's the GOP that's changed, especially in privacy rights and states' rights.

There are many Republican voters who are horrified and disgusted at what Bush and the neocons have done to their party and to America. Barr will be a good fit for them.

This gives Obama a good-sized buffer, IMO, for the Hillary voters who won't be able to cross over and support Obama. In fact, those Hillary supporters may find many things to like in Bob Barr.

[Cheap_Trick]

17. according to one poll in Virginia

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/22/114749/521/263/520443

10% of Democrats will vote for McCain over Obama

but

17% of Republicans will vote for Obama over McCain


that's a net of +7%...


so yeah, fuck the pissy little twits that will vote against their best interests because they didn't get their way.

[movonne]

31. The people (dem) that say they would vote for mc cain over Obama

are trolls in dem clothing...

[VolcanoJen]

25. I'll take it, too!!

I'm with you. I know what's good and what is despicable, and I want to be on the side of good.

[corkhead]

35. what will they do if Condi gets the VP nod?

[workinclasszero]

60. The remaining mouth-breathing racists in the Democratic party are FINALLY making the switch to the R

I think you are right! The racist DLC neocon free traitor warmongers have no place left in the democratic party!

They can go to McWar and their hero Rush!

Progressives and independents will give Obama the victory in the GE.



The movement=people power!

[anonymous171]

6. Leave already then.

[Yael]

9. You have been played

[Forkboy]

10. You won't have far to go.

[Bicoastal]

14. I'm sure you'll be one of them...except I'm not so sure you ever left.

[madrchsod]

18. millions?..really..millions?

millions of democrats are going to vote for john...interesting.

[DerekJ]

19. Relax Perry. I liked your "Why I like John McCain” video btw (he's making fun of McCain)...You seem

aware of the great dangers of the McCain presidency. Yet you have an equal hate to Obama. Am I right?!

[Name removed]

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[Max_powers94]

23. If they go vote for McBush they are going to be crying

[Lerkfish]

33. maybe mccain isn't paying you enough?

I you charge per post, I'd up my fee, if I were you.

:)

[Doityourself]

37. I'm going to light a candle for you.. Your pain must be unbearable.,.

[newmajority]

45. If you DLC'ers would rather go back where you came from than vote for our nominee

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya :hi:

[Warren DeMontague]

54. riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Yes, particularly impressive will be the millions upon millions of women :eyes: who rush out to vote for an anti-choice goober like McCain: who promises to uphold the HLA plank in the GOP convention and appoint knuckle-dragging troglodytes to the SCOTUS...

...because, you know, it was supposed to be Hillary's TURN, DAMMIT!

[WillyT]

55. Put Down That Joint My Friend...

:wtf:

[Name removed]

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[Ian_rd]

67. There Perry goes again!

So beautiful. Like a train wreck. I can't look away.

[racaulk]

74. You are such a joke.

[ekwhite]

77. Don't let the door hit you where nature split you N/T

[sniffa]

3. I can tell u r on to something

[Forkboy]

26. LOL

:spank:

[Yael]

4. This does not surprise me in the least

kAr

[GoesTo11]

7. Hey, it's ok with Hillary

Rush, McCain, Rove. There's room for everyone in Camp Hillary.

[me b zola]

63. Room for everyone...except progressives. (n/t)

[NC_Nurse]

8. I've been thinking that all along.

I think a lot of these posters who like to stir up shit about Hillary winning are really working for them.

[flvegan]

13. Nobody on that site is sane to begin with.

Is there a :notshocked: smiley?

[The Doctor.]

64. Maybe one of these;

:shrug:

[crispini]

15. .

Niiiiiiiiiice find. :kick:

[Thrill]

20. JUDGES JUDGES JUDGES JUDGES

one more Alito and this country will never be the same. Everything Democrats have fought for will be gone. THINK

[anonymous171]

21. I KNEW IT! Democrats could simply not be THAT hateful!

[Catherina]

27. You're right. If you pay close attention at DU

you'll notice a BIG difference between Democrats who support Clinton and whatever those other things pretending to support her are.

[DS1]

57. YES

[The Doctor.]

65. What I can't figure out...

is what's wrong with the long-time DUers that have apparently gone batshit insane.

[Catherina]

24. This was noticed earlier

There was an earlier thread about this http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6141745

Here's a screenshot of one of their sites

[sniffa]

32. What fucking lunatics

[Zachstar]

28. Wikileaks is breaking the back of the secretive shit that empowers assholes.

[zulchzulu]

29. Sounds like a perfect script for a YouTube video

[WeDidIt]

30. i can think of at least a dozen right here at DU

Ans that would be just off the top of my head.

[izzybeans]

34. .

I see this thread brought out at least one of them.

[bvar22]

36. Oh-oh!

There are some bare asses hanging out at DU.
:rofl:

The document identifies three messages believed to 'resonate well' with the demographic and which it hopes will weaken Obama's growth following Clinton's loss of the nomination.

1. Sen. Obama’s connection to Rev. Wright
2. His inexperience
3. His links to the corrupt Chicago political machine

The memo calls for a 'greater commitment on the part of McCain’s fundraisers and our various media partners' to help in the alienation effort.

An example, pushing 'Clinton campaign’s narrative about the unfair treatment that some networks, specifically MSNBC, have given her camp' is given.

I would add one more Republican talking point:
That Obama has disenfranchized the voters of Mi and Fla.

[AspenRose]

61. Yep

*nodding*

It all makes sense.

[CreekDog]

38. this would explain why posts are so often cut and pasted, don't fit into context

because so many posts against Obama aren't merely expressions of a thought relating back to a thread, but calculated cut and pastes designed not to express, but to forment arguments, and spread negative memes/talking points as far and wide as possible.

you definetely see that type of behavior here.

what i have noticed is that many anti Obama posts simply have a quote and a link and require relatively little effort to post which would fit with the pattern at hillaryis44 of few posters with tons of posts. the obama posts here (the positive ones) run the gamut but are much less a cut and paste job.

so, yes, i think we are being played when we see this type of behavior and think it is the genuine feelings of Hillary supporters. i have yet to meet one that will vote McCain in November and relatively few I know even dislike Obama despite being diehard Hillary fans.

so i just don't buy into the sincerity of those posts, unless I see some original thoughts or at least original wording and not just a cut and paste job.

[IndianaGreen]

39. Some of the Hillaryis44 movers and shakers have expressed neocon views

when they posted in DU, together with an intense dislike of liberals and progressives.

[JackBeck]

42. Can't wait until I bump into one now that this has been brought to the surface.

:evilgrin:

[blogslut]

40. Makes sense

I wonder which nasty little advisor suggested the tactic?

[DS1]

41. Steven Schmidt

[blogslut]

46. Duh, sorry

It says that right in your OP. I'm a goon.

So, that would be this Steven Schmidt, correct?

...During the 2006 election cycle, Schmidt served as campaign manager for California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's reelection bid, and prior to that was a member of the Bush political inner circle. He handled the strategic communications efforts during the Supreme Court confirmation hearings of Samuel A. Alito Jr. and John G. Roberts Jr., and during the 2004 presidential election he was a member of the "breakfast club" -- a small gathering of top level Bush advisers who met regularly at the home of senior strategist Karl Rove. Schmidt will remain an adviser to Schwarzenegger...

link: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2006/12/mccain_hires_another_bushie.html?nav=rss_blog

[and-justice-for-all]

43. My hunch was correct...

I knew there was something fishy going on with these "If Clinton does get the nom, I voting for McCain" clowns.

[Melinda]

44. Link's not working for me... this is what I get:

John McCain US Presidential election Clinton astroturfing strategy

From Wikileaks

Jump to: navigation, search

There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page.

:shrug:

[ELY08]

51. Here ya go

https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/John_McCain_US_Presidential_election_Clinton_strategy_%282008%29

fixed link

[Melinda]

52. Hey thanks, (and welcome to DU!) but it's still showing as having no text. :-(

Rats!

[blogslut]

47. kick

:)

[slinkerwink]

48. Makes sense

[mcctatas]

49. duerleaks,com

NO SHIT.....

What pisses me off even more is the pollution of DU with thier divisive bullshit. A few pink site peckerheads would start shit, other Hillary supporters would jump in to defend them against the backlash from Obama folks and suddenly, people who are really not that far apart on the issues that matter are at each others throats....
:nuke:

[merh]

50. I just went over to a mixed site, lefties, centrists and righties post there.

All of the anti-Obama threads posted by the righties look exactly like the anti-Obama threads posted by folks here. The same damn titles, the same subjects.

Where do they go for their talking points?

[muryan]

53. Funny, I dont see any of them denying this

Which leads me to believe that some tombstones will be in order very soon.

[libnnc]

56. To quote Shirley Wilhelmina Feeney

"Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well...well...WELL!"




How INteresting! :think:

[drm604]

58. Where did you find the link to hillaryis44?

I don't see it mentioned on wikileaks. I'm trying to see what I can track down in regards to this.

[barack the house]

66. Probably been doing it already. Ferraro is more for mccain than even Hillary.

[CaptJasHook]

68. I sensed this all along, just waiting for the proof.

Hillaryis44 and Hillary propagandists are being played. Too bad they don't get it.

[NotThisTime]

69. All Democrats should GOTV & not forget what's happened in the past and even during this primary

GET OUT THE VOTE

[Greyskye]

70. Gee, I don't see our resident pink button His44 poster in this thread

I wonder why... maybe (s)he is embarrassed at having been played? :shrug:


Naw. That poster proved long ago that they have no shame.

[wowimthere]

71. Neo-CONS will do anything to win Everyone should expect this...

DO YOUR HOMEWORK and this will trump any McCain job.

[glitch]

72. Watch for efforts to create some kind of explanation for a McCain "win"

to cover the inevitable rampant election fraud. The explanation doesn't even have to be all that believable, just needs to be something the corporate media can spew without that sick look they get when they realize they look like complete morons.

That Americans are still too racist/sexist are the freebees, no doubt they'll need backup stories.

[JPZenger]

73. k and r. nt

[Oilwellian]

75. Great find

K&R

[Fox Mulder]

76. Why does this not surprise me?