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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:44 PM
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"The Clintons recognize the skill Rove has brought to politics and admire his craft..."
Photo of Hillary's hero/savior:



What is with the Clintons and Rove?

From a 2007 article:

The Clintons recognize the skill Rove has brought to politics and admire his craft, if not his ideology. Just days after the November 2004 election, Bill Clinton pulled Rove aside at the dedication of the William J. Clinton Presidential Library in Arkansas. "Hey, you did a marvelous job, it was just marvelous what you did," Clinton told Rove, according to the book "The Way to Win: Taking the White House in 2008," by John F. Harris and Mark Halperin. "I want to get you down to the library. I want to talk politics with you. You just did an incredible job, and I'd like to really get together with you and I think we could have a great conversation."

link


Rove is a low down dirty rotten liar and war criminal enabler.

House Judiciary Committee Subpoenas Rove

Wasserman-Schultz on arresting Rove: ‘Well, if that’s what it takes.’

Well, Rep. Wasserman-Schultz, how does it look that the candidate you support is hyping a low-life like Rove?

Hillary's campaign has cultivated a group of so-called Democrats who act like Republicans, and are ready bolster their BS arguments for political gain.

Contrast this idiot...

TPMtv: Lanny's Induction Ceremony (Video)

same idiot...

The follow are four things that the Obama campaign couldn't resist doing to anger Clinton supporters, supporters that Sen. Obama needs in the general election if -- if -- he is the nominee.

1. Couldn't resist waiting one day after Sen. Clinton won West Virginia by 41 points to announce John Edwards endorsement.

2. Couldn't resist waiting to win majority of ALL delegates (not just pledged delegates) to do victory lap speech in Iowa the night Hillary won Kentucky by 36 points.

3. Couldn't resist waiting to win majority of all delegates to announce Jim Johnson as VP search committee head -- the first candidate in my memory ever to do so while his chief opponent is still fighting for nomination -- and winning in last primary in crucial border state by 36 points (Kentucky).

What's the rush?

Obama wouldn't confirm or deny the that Mr. Johnson has been appointed to head the VP search effort. That makes many Clinton supporters feel uneasy about Senator Obama.

4. Couldn't resist listing Bill Richardson as under consideration for Veep - the one Red Flag name that infuriates even moderate Clinton supporters the most -- not because he chose to endorse Sen. Obama, but the way he did it, i.e., his inability to avoid making negative comments about Sen. Clinton while doing so -- another person who sometimes can't resist the temptation of not being gracious when he should be, a great disappointment to many of his former close friends from the Clinton camp and which will not be forgotten.

-- Lanny Davis


...with a Democrat:

How the US news media fails us (Video)

"That's a really important issue and one of the two most important environmental issues –the other one is campaign finance reform. People are talking about the 'liberal' media. I was thinking, 'There's no such thing as the Liberal Media.' What do you have? You have The Nation magazine, Mother Jones, I guess Rolling Stone, and Air America Radio and Pacifica Radio and that's pretty much it. That's the Liberal Media. But there's a right-wing media in this country and if you look at where Americans are disproportionately getting their news, that's where it's coming from. -- Robert Kennedy Jr.

(emphasis added)

That was 2007. Where has all the sanity gone?



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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:46 PM
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1. Obama Super Delegate and Shill Donna Brazile is Karl Rove's Best Friend.
Frustrated Democrat Makes Friends in G.O.P.

By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
Published: February 21, 2003
Two years ago, Donna Brazile, then Al Gore's campaign manager, was engaged in daily combat with Karl Rove, then George W. Bush's top campaign strategist.

Today, they chirpily exchange e-mail, chat on the phone and write letters, indulging in their shared zeal for the inner workings of politics.

''I like her a lot,'' said Mr. Rove, now ensconced in the West Wing as President Bush's chief political adviser.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D02E5DC123DF932A15751C0A9659C8B63
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:53 PM
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3. Is that suppose to change this:
"Rove is a low down dirty rotten liar and war criminal enabler"?


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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:57 PM
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4. Donna Brazile sure can pick 'em!
Edited on Wed May-28-08 07:58 PM by MethuenProgressive
Pastor Wright, Karl Rove, Barack Obama, Tony Rezko, Donnie McClurkin....
- she sure knows what she's looking for in a man!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:59 PM
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6. Who cares about Brazile? n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:09 PM
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9. Why, her best friend Karl Rove does!
He's the twinkle in her eye!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:18 PM
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11. As long as you're clear that I don't. n/t
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ecdab Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:59 PM
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7. Donna Brazile has yet to officially declare for either candidate.
Though we can all be sure she will declare for Obama (+1 for Obama :headbang: ) at some point in the near future (along with many other Super Delegates).
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:10 PM
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10. I'm pretty sure having his name tattooed on her ass counts.
As does her months of shilling for Axlerod on every TV show she can wriggle onto.
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ecdab Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 03:44 AM
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12. But Obama doesn't have that +1 in the super delegate column from her yet.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:34 AM
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21. you're gonna be pretty bored when queen hillary drops out of the race, huh?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:48 PM
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2. And they've done a good job emulating his techniques....
n/t

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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:58 PM
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5. I've never forgotten that account of Bill Clinton telling Rove how much he admires his "work."
It left a really bad taste in my mouth, the fact that Bill C. wanted to pick Rove's brain for future reference, i.e. for
Hillary's presidential campaign. And, being someone who believes in winning at all costs, it even makes sense -
if you discount the idea of him having any kind of conscience at all.

In fact, throughout this entire campaign season, every time something under-handed occurred,
I thought of Bill Clinton's remarks to Rove. And every time Hillary pulled something else out of her kitchen sink - the
mockery, the derision, the crocodile tears, the lies, etc - I recoiled a bit more.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery: I give you Hillary Clinton, Republican.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:27 PM
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8. "It takes one to know one."
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:13 AM
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13. uh..thanks a LOT ProSense
here I was enjoying my morning coffee (Dunkin Donuts coffee) with my terrorist scarf around my neck and you hadda go and mention Lanny Davis...talk about a whiny, weaselly guy that you'd just LOVE to smack in the face-just once-As for Rove?-a roundhouse right, smack in the nose
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:38 AM
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14. Bill and Hill have gone over to the dark side.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:50 AM
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15. One can be a flaming asshole and still be proficient at one's chosen occupation.
Just ask Barry Bonds.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:08 AM
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16. What's that: corruption and propaganda? n/t
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:23 AM
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17. No surprises here. Bill, Hill and Karl, what a pretty picture.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:24 AM
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18. I just threw up in my mouth
excuse me
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:24 AM
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19. AND have watched hillary employ most all the tactics, hence why so many dems are disgusted
with hillary adn especially the supporters that dont call her on it.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:29 AM
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20. Mistaking a lack of scruples for skill...
...does not bode well for performance by Bill Clinton in the future. Of course, he was just making polite chit-chat, so perhaps we shouldn't read too much into it.

But why get any closer to Karl Rove than you have to?
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:57 AM
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22. That explains why Wes Clark was singing Roves praises on Morning Joe today,
Nearly made me lose my breakfast. :puke: What the hell happened to Wes?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:59 AM
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23. I don't think Clark's heart's in it. The few times I've seen him spin, he didn't seem the normal Wes
The press releases that went out with his name on them... I think Hillary's camp just wrote them and put his name on it.

Now, Hillary is having a hard time finding surrogates who can go on tv and look respectable.

McAuliffe and Davis are just pathetic.

Clark is living up to his word he'd campaign for her. He isn't a weasel. Wish he'd kept out of it.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:29 AM
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26. He just kept going on and on with the McAuliffe style spin.
Count every vote... its not a Clinton talking point, its an American talking point! etc.
And he seemed to get very pissed off when asked about being Obamas VP. Slid right back into the twisted Hillary mantra.

I wish he'd stayed out of it too. I had a much higher opinion of him before.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:10 AM
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24. It must be interesting to live in the world of absolutes that some of you seem to live in.
Edited on Thu May-29-08 09:12 AM by Beacool
Life is more shades of gray than black and white. Karl Rove is ideologically repugnant to me, but he's damn good at his job. Ignoring the opposition's strengths is a mistake.

By the many overly dramatic posts that I see on this board I assume that many of you must be awfully young to be continually so over the top about everything, whether it be your likes or dislikes.

Karl Rove is a very good strategist, unfortunately for us in 2004, despite the unpopularity of the war he still managed to get his guy reelected. Bill was only recognizing Rove's skills.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:11 AM
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30. "he's damn good at his job" Corruption is not a job. n/t
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:13 AM
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25. And Obama recognized the success Reagan had dragging the US to the Right.
Edited on Thu May-29-08 09:15 AM by cryingshame
who doesn't agree that Rove was VERY successful at beating the Mediawhores and politicians of all stripes into submission?

I don't want Obama or Democrats to emulate those tactics. And don't think they are sustainable over the long haul, but they worked.

And are still largely working although starting to falter thanks to the internet tubes.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:40 AM
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27. Yeah, low animal cunning is just so admirable
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:04 PM
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31. To some. n/t
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:02 PM
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28. Only a brainless monkey has a need for a spin doctor
like Rove for damage control. A real leader can speak for him/herself in order for everyone to understand.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:04 PM
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29. When Wes Clark said we need to give the devil his due, I shuddered. Ugh.
Um, no, the devil and the rest of the posse need to be buried like cat shit.
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